I'm not proposing it, nor do I wish it (at all), however, objectively speaking, the West probably has to go to war with China within 2-3 years...

Just as the world is fighting Russia today

No, just Ukraine is fighting Russia. Other nations are helping, but it is still just Russia and Ukraine involved.

As for how to join the US military, that is simple. Apply for a green card, and with that you can join. And over 40,000 Canadians were involved in Afghanistan and the Middle East as part of the Multinational Force. I served with many while I was out there myself.
 
Yes, and no. People should know that we "unofficially" recognize Taiwan, and actually still have a defense treaty with them.

First is the unusual status is that although we do not have an embassy there, we do have the American Institute in Taiwan, which fulfills the same purpose. And Taiwan has a similar operation in the US, the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office.

Then there is also the Taiwan Relations Act, which even calls for the US to respond to any threat against Taiwan with force. That was enacted by President Carter at the same time he ended the "Two China Policy", and remains in effect to this day and all presidents after him have also affirmed their commitment to that.

So no, we have not "acknowledges" that Taiwan is part of China. Quite the opposite actually. We have affirmed they are independent and will remain so unless they decide otherwise. And any actions against them will be met with force.



Actually, geography dictates nothing of the sort. And the number of missiles means nothing, they would have to find the Navy first. And that is much harder than you apparently think.

Yes, Taiwan is within range. Then again, it is an island and nothing on that island is moving. Shops at sea are something completely different. And apparently you are seriously overestimating the effect of those missiles. Are you even aware that during WWII, Germany fired over 3,500 rockets and missiles at England? Do you think that destroyed them?

So far, Russia has fired over 5,000 rockets and missiles at Ukraine. So they seem like they are out of the fight?

Why people seem to believe just a few rockets or missiles will end a war is completely beyond me. That has never been the case, is not the case now, and will never be the case in the future. It honestly blows my mind that some people are so absolutely simplistic in their thinking of how effective missiles actually are. Almost like they are magic weapons from the Harry Potter universe.

"To this day, the U.S. “one China” position stands: the United States recognizes the PRC as the sole legal government of China but only acknowledges the Chinese position that Taiwan is part of China. Thus, the United States maintains formal relations with the PRC and has unofficial relations with Taiwan. The “one China” policy has subsequently been reaffirmed by every new incoming U.S. administration." What Is the U.S. “One China” Policy, and Why Does it Matter?

Taiwan is 81-141 miles from mainland China depending on whether you are talking about the narrowest point or its widest point. It is also not hard to find the US Navy nor the Marines. They sit around in Japan, but they would not be upon whom the brunt of these Chinese Harry Potter Magic Missiles would fall upon. Absolutely simplistic is your thinking that even two US carriers are gonna be able to defeat mainland China if hostilities begin or that China wouldn't attack all the US bases in Japan once the US fired its first shot. While it is possible that a Chinese invasion could be repelled, most war gaming analysis has the US losing both its carriers, hundreds of other ships and tens of thousands of troops over a couple weeks to halt them so good luck getting any POTUS to sign off on that blood bath when they could just make mean tweets and ban Chinese Barbie dolls instead.
 
"To this day, the U.S. “one China” position stands: the United States recognizes the PRC as the sole legal government of China but only acknowledges the Chinese position that Taiwan is part of China. Thus, the United States maintains formal relations with the PRC and has unofficial relations with Taiwan. The “one China” policy has subsequently been reaffirmed by every new incoming U.S. administration." What Is the U.S. “One China” Policy, and Why Does it Matter?

Taiwan is 81-141 miles from mainland China depending on whether you are talking about the narrowest point or its widest point. It is also not hard to find the US Navy nor the Marines. They sit around in Japan, but they would not be upon whom the brunt of these Chinese Harry Potter Magic Missiles would fall upon. Absolutely simplistic is your thinking that even two US carriers are gonna be able to defeat mainland China if hostilities begin or that China wouldn't attack all the US bases in Japan once the US fired its first shot. While it is possible that a Chinese invasion could be repelled, most war gaming analysis has the US losing both its carriers, hundreds of other ships and tens of thousands of troops over a couple weeks to halt them so good luck getting any POTUS to sign off on that blood bath when they could just make mean tweets and ban Chinese Barbie dolls instead.
Chinas economy would collapse first though, that is the power of the U.S economic investment. This is why so many say that U.S debt is a Narional Security issue. There are some who believe the ambiguity may be doing more harm than good in the long run as it is perceived as weakness by China and they feel they have a green light to invade Taiwan. It is complicated because Taiwan are to some, the original Chinese who had to flee because of the communists victory. To the CCP they are a breakaway province. A referendum would solve this issue, no? It wiuld also be interesting because Russia said the same about Crimea so they would be hypocrits to NOT recognize Taiwan if they voted to be their own sovereign nation.
 
Chinas economy would collapse first though, that is the power of the U.S economic investment. This is why so many say that U.S debt is a Narional Security issue. There are some who believe the ambiguity may be doing more harm than good in the long run as it is perceived as weakness by China and they feel they have a green light to invade Taiwan. It is complicated because Taiwan are to some, the original Chinese who had to flee because of the communists victory. To the CCP they are a breakaway province. A referendum would solve this issue, no? It wiuld also be interesting because Russia said the same about Crimea so they would be hypocrits to NOT recognize Taiwan if they voted to be their own sovereign nation.

US foreign investment in China isn't huge. All foreign investment in China only totals 2% of GDP
 
US foreign investment in China isn't huge. All foreign investment in China only totals 2% of GDP
There are 10s of thousands of U.S companies in China, many of them with multiple locations. The number of jobs rhey create is not insignificant. KFC alone has 7000 locarioons, think of how.many jobs that supports locally at each location and residually. This is a simple product. Apple,.Tesla etc
 
Absolutely simplistic is your thinking that even two US carriers are gonna be able to defeat mainland China if hostilities begin or that China wouldn't attack all the US bases in Japan once the US fired its first shot.

You mean as simplistic that the US needs to defeat the entire nation of China just to stop an attack on Taiwan? Or that by attacking those bases on Okinawa that would not immediately not bring in Japan into the conflict?

Oh, which also brings in Australia and the UK because they have their own defense agreements with Japan.

So that now is not jute China against the US, at that point it becomes China against the US, UK, Japan, and Australia.

Absolutely simplistic is your thinking.
 
It's really simple. By some sources, by 2030, China will be surpassing America and have far better trained (in China, not compared to) forces to what they have today. Therefore, if the U.S is to prevent Chinas full control over Taiwan, the SCS etc, the West is going to have to be engaged in war with China in order to decimate and set back Chinas expansion. China has been planning for this for many years and too many put their hands over their eyes. This is how I see it, unless the world is to be dominated by China and their system.
The CCP tacitly declared war on the entire world, when they deliberately allowed infected people to travel to foreign soil.
 
KFC alone has 7000 locarioons

Which is a franchise, and owned by a Chinese company.

In fact, if you are not aware most "US companies" in China are in reality Chinese subsidiaries of US companies. And the money from them actually rarely makes it back to the US. More or less the reverse of Toyota of North America, Sony of North America, and the like. Generally not a lot more than an overseas holding company because the money made there can not be returned to the home country without huge tax penalties.

I for one for over a decade have favored several of the proposals to amend US tax law to offer an amnesty to bring a lot of that money back to the US. Right now, most companies trying to bring back that money would have to pay 50% or more in taxes, which is why most refuse to do so and just leave it overseas. But I have long thought a short term program to not charge that on the condition the returned money was spent on rebuilding industrial capacity that had been sent overseas would likely be attractive to many.

A lot of companies are now more or less trapped in China. They can not remove their money from there, and nobody to replace China for a lot of the goods because we simply do not make them anymore. But by forcing the companies to invest that in rebuilding US industrial capacity would help resolve that.
 
They said the same thing back in the early 50's when the Korean war was a recent memory but it wasn't true then and it ain't true now. A war between two gigantic nuclear powers is a bad idea. Compound it if (God forbid) the drooling old fool gets another term with his trembling thumb on the nuclear button.
 
There are 10s of thousands of U.S companies in China, many of them with multiple locations. The number of jobs rhey create is not insignificant. KFC alone has 7000 locarioons, think of how.many jobs that supports locally at each location and residually. This is a simple product. Apple,.Tesla etc

What makes you so sure these aren't local owned franchises?
 
This may be true. Regsrdless, those are jobs that might not be in place right?

They are largely owned by Yum China which is a chinese corporation that owns all the chinese franchises of several different US restaurant lines. Anyway, I am assuming that if people weren't working for them, they would be working for someone else.
 
You mean as simplistic that the US needs to defeat the entire nation of China just to stop an attack on Taiwan? Or that by attacking those bases on Okinawa that would not immediately not bring in Japan into the conflict?

Oh, which also brings in Australia and the UK because they have their own defense agreements with Japan.

So that now is not jute China against the US, at that point it becomes China against the US, UK, Japan, and Australia.

Absolutely simplistic is your thinking.

LOL Pretend WWIII scenarios til you turn blue in the face. The long and the short of it is the US isn't going to risk 1 carrier let alone 2 carrier groups, hundreds of planes and flight crews, and suffer attacks on all our military installations in the region over Taiwan. They aren't white enough.
 
"To this day, the U.S. “one China” position stands: the United States recognizes the PRC as the sole legal government of China but only acknowledges the Chinese position that Taiwan is part of China. Thus, the United States maintains formal relations with the PRC and has unofficial relations with Taiwan. The “one China” policy has subsequently been reaffirmed by every new incoming U.S. administration." What Is the U.S. “One China” Policy, and Why Does it Matter?

Taiwan is 81-141 miles from mainland China depending on whether you are talking about the narrowest point or its widest point. It is also not hard to find the US Navy nor the Marines. They sit around in Japan, but they would not be upon whom the brunt of these Chinese Harry Potter Magic Missiles would fall upon. Absolutely simplistic is your thinking that even two US carriers are gonna be able to defeat mainland China if hostilities begin or that China wouldn't attack all the US bases in Japan once the US fired its first shot. While it is possible that a Chinese invasion could be repelled, most war gaming analysis has the US losing both its carriers, hundreds of other ships and tens of thousands of troops over a couple weeks to halt them so good luck getting any POTUS to sign off on that blood bath when they could just make mean tweets and ban Chinese Barbie dolls instead.
We wouldn't invade China, that would be stupid. China would never try to invade the US, that would be much more idiotic. What we would do is sink China's entire navy and destroy all its manufacturing centers on the east coast.
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What makes you so sure these aren't local owned franchises?

Actually, they are not because franchises are illegal in China.

Like all other fast food companies that moved there, they set up a locally owned corporation that owns them all. However, other than brand recognition that is almost meaningless in most ways because the money they collect never makes it back to the US. At this time, I want to say the taxes on bringing money from overseas for a corporation is somewhere around 65%. That is why companies like Apple, Ford, Levi, and all the others just end up investing it in those overseas companies over and over again.

For the producers, they at least get the benefit of exporting their manufactured goods cheap back to the US, but in the long run doing business like this just benefits China more because they keep reinvesting the money over and over in that country, and not investing it in setting up facilities here again. And in the last several years companies have been trying to look for ways to either get out of China or reduce their investment there, but they are trapped. Because if they were to divest themselves of their facilities there and try to bring that money back to the US they will lose over half of it.

Me, I want to see them divest, and bring that manufacturing back to the US. And if a program was set up to do so without the ruinous taxes I bet more than a few would do so.
 
Yum China which is a chinese corporation that owns all the chinese franchises of several different US restaurant lines.

As I said, a Chinese shell company. And they do not own the franchises, they own everything. And it is just the Chinese arm of Yum! brands, the company that owns the same places in the US.
 
China is going broke so maybe it will come true.
China is running out of time in many ways. They have a very rapidly aging population which is set to implode in the next decade. Regardless of your position on global warming their expansion of hydrocarbon power plants is covering the entire country in smog and the pollution ratios there per capita are through the roof. Add that to the fact that their decade-long charade of pegging the Yuan at 8:00 to 1 against the US dollar artificially has caused them to generate a highly inefficient manufacturing economy that has got to be somewhere in the area of 30% waste. Their move to militarize I believe is based on the concept that in order to survive financially China must consume Taiwan's economy.
 

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