Dr Grump said:Really? So the NYT wants Americans to die? Holy heck. I think that is reprehensible on their part. They should hang their heads in shame.
The NYT has made it abundantly clear that liberals don't care how many Americans have to die in order for the left to regain power. Please don't misrepresent my words again. It's wrong, for one thing, and - for another - you're not particularly good at or clever about it.
Dr Grump said:Gimme a look at the link you have, just to make sure...
Look it up yourself, will you? It shouldn't be too hard. It's only the most famous news story since Rathergate.
Dr Grump said:Ah, yes, Ward Churchill! That bastion of credible left-wing rhetoric that most average liberials says speaks for them...:happy2: . They were for the war because they believed the intel was correct (saps). They were against it when they found out at worst the Bush admin was lying (which is virtually impossible to prove in any way, shape or form), at best (IMO) they took what they were told without delving into it, not because they believed the sources but because it told them what they wanted to hear. Pardon the skeptics, cynics and non Bush butt kissers for having an opinion on the subject and vocalising it...
Oh - I'm sorry! It's just that this conversation is fast approaching the level of the riveting, thrill-a-minute page-turner you displayed in your rebuttal to David Limbaugh. Do you have anything of substance to say?
Dr Grump said:Riiiigghhhttt. I love that last little beauty. Here's a little advice for free: Nobody will EVER win a war on terrorism so how you think can be won would be amusing to read. I wouldn't call it cutting and running so much as "Is one American/coalition life worth defending that shithole known as the ME?". I say, no.
So - to hell with it, huh? Cut 'em all loose, go home, and hope for the best? Amazing.
Dr Grump said:Really? For you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
You continue to dazzle me, man. You can misapply a term with its definition sitting right in front of you! I'm impressed...
Dr Grump said:True. Which is why it will never be won.
Oh, it can be won. When these murdering bastard savages finally figure out that the American people will stand up for American interests over the long haul, and that - therefore - all of these Islamo-atrocities are to no good purpose - they'll crawl back into their spider-holes. Decent people around the world will once again dare to dream of freedom. Boy - if only we could get the NYT on America's side; wouldn't that be neat?
Dr Grump said:No MM the Normandy of the WOT is/was Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia.
OK, I give up - what the hell are you TALKING about?
Dr Grump said:And why do they wish to see Americans dead? You answer that question, and find a solution, then you might get an end to the WOT (pssssttt and it ain't because they think the west if full of infidels, nor are they jealous of the western way of life - so think on it a little)...
Please enlighten me. I am truly looking forward to this.