Illegals OK'd to drive in N.Y.

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Illegals OK'd to drive in N.Y.



By Joseph Curl
October 20, 2007


Gov. Eliot Spitzer's order to grant driver's licenses to illegal aliens in New York has enraged voters and Republican officials .

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New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer has started a major political fight over immigration by ordering state officials to issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens, prompting at least one county legislature to defy the executive order and pushing toward a showdown in court.

The embattled governor's order has drawn some acerbic commentary, including a cartoon showing Osama bin Laden as a New York City taxi driver. After spending months trying to deflect charges that he used state police to target the Republican leader of the state Senate, Mr. Spitzer appears eager for a fight over this contentious issue.

"The rabid right that wants to pile on and use this to demagogue the issue will not carry the day in New York state," he said recently. "Those who view this as a political issue once again are taking the state in the wrong direction."

The driver's license issue has once again put the governor at odds with New Yorkers. When New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who inJune abandoned the Republican Party, criticized the order recently, the Democratic governor shot back that the mayor was "dead wrong, factually wrong, legally wrong, morally wrong, ethically wrong."

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani joined the list of opponents this week. "Governor Spitzer should not give licenses to illegals," he told the Republican Jewish Coalition on Tuesday. "It doesn't make sense."

The issue heated up late last week, when the Monroe County legislature defied the governor and ordered its county clerk to require anyone seeking a driver's license to provide a valid Social Security number. The decision runs counter to Mr. Spitzer's order, in which illegal aliens with valid foreign passports would be eligible to obtain a state driver's license.

Again, Mr. Spitzer was defiant: "I hate to say it — the clerks have to enforce it," he said. "The clerks who issue driver's licenses are agents of the state. They do not make state law on this. State government does."

In another move, 29 clerks, all but one a Republican, voted to oppose the plan, with 13 vowing to directly disobey the governor, even if ordered to comply. The clerks said their offices would be hard-pressed to determine the legality of applicants.

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If there was EVER any reason for IMPEACHMENT, this guy has done it. He should be tared and feathered and thrown out of office.
 
Where does this asshole live. I am going to go there and make him an offer he can't refuse.
 
Pale Rider:

Sorry, but I started a thread on the same topic, but just erased my thread, but can't eliminate the title or subject.

Somehow I didn't notice that you had started a thread on the same topic of the N.Y. drivers license thing of for illegals.

Anyway, my apologies. If someone clicks my thread, it says that I goofed, and that you have the original thread going before I started mine.
 
Pale Rider:

Sorry, but I started a thread on the same topic, but just erased my thread, but can't eliminate the title or subject.

Somehow I didn't notice that you had started a thread on the same topic of the N.Y. drivers license thing of for illegals.

Anyway, my apologies. If someone clicks my thread, it says that I goofed, and that you have the original thread going before I started mine.
But anyway shape or form. I am definitely opposed.
 
I also oppose this shit too. Go to Saratoga Springs during tourist season and you'll see what I'm talking about.

What the Hell are we going to do folks?

Seriously though, America is beginning to look like Rome.
 
I just have a hard time wrapping my head around this issue from the conservative side. Does anyone who opposes these kinds of laws believe that illegals don't work? And if they work, wouldn't that suggest there is a demand for their labor? And does anyone believe that the prices they pay for all kinds of good would sky rocket if only domestic American labor went into their production?

Like until I get those questions answered, I'm just a little confused as to what you expect to be done here. As long as Americans are looking for a better bargain, illegal labor has a place here. Period end of story. Jeez.
 
I oppose the hell out of this.

a driver's License is on of the two quickest forms of ID for the federal I-(, for christs sakes.



Does anyone who opposes these kinds of laws believe that illegals don't work?


that's kinda the point. They are NOT supposed to be HERE and WORKING. Giving them a license is as good as giving them a social security card in regards to employments AND validating their status. They ARE Illegal, right? if anything, the DMV should be a tool used to filter out those who are here illegally from those who are here legally. How the hell can you prove you are who you say you are for a DL if your social security card is a fake and have no birth certificate from the US?
 
I just have a hard time wrapping my head around this issue from the conservative side. Does anyone who opposes these kinds of laws believe that illegals don't work? And if they work, wouldn't that suggest there is a demand for their labor? And does anyone believe that the prices they pay for all kinds of good would sky rocket if only domestic American labor went into their production?

Like until I get those questions answered, I'm just a little confused as to what you expect to be done here. As long as Americans are looking for a better bargain, illegal labor has a place here. Period end of story. Jeez.

You're SO right. Because America is such a consumer nation I think you could do almost anything to it as long as they could have a Walmart. All the more reason it will fall to shit.
 
I just have a hard time wrapping my head around this issue from the conservative side. Does anyone who opposes these kinds of laws believe that illegals don't work? And if they work, wouldn't that suggest there is a demand for their labor? And does anyone believe that the prices they pay for all kinds of good would sky rocket if only domestic American labor went into their production?

Like until I get those questions answered, I'm just a little confused as to what you expect to be done here. As long as Americans are looking for a better bargain, illegal labor has a place here. Period end of story. Jeez.


Who cares if they work? THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY. Let me know what part of that you don't get ...
 

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