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.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


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I wonder if Woodward even knows who he talked with??

If he talked with anyone at all.

Of course people will by the book and it will be a best seller. Most best sellers are fiction after all. LOL
 
.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


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Don't feel half as stupid as you seem to be.
1. Just because Mueller has agreed to accepting SOME answers in writing to SOME of the things he's investigating. Doesn't mean Trump is cleared on that particular PART of the investigation, or that that is the only thing that Mueller IS investigating. In fact we know that besides conspiracy Mueller is looking at obstruction of justice and multiple other prosecutors are looking into Trump's financial dealings. To give an example. Nixon wasn't forced to resign over Watergate directly but rather his attempt to cover it up.
2. When you say EVERYBODY knows do you mean just people who ignore stuff that doesn't fit the narrative? Steele was just a part of the investigation. In fact it was Papadopolous big mouth that started it. Steele was corroboration not an instigator.
3. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Guillani bragging that the FBI didn't like Hillary? Furthermore if it was a subversion it had to be the most inept one in history since they didn't use the Steele information during the campaign for, we learned after. The Trump tower meeting broke after, etc.
4. No they didn't lean HEAVILY on it. Point two already addressed that fallacy.
5. She DIDN'T use it. And what statute are you referring to.
6. Woodward has more credibility then Trump has ever enjoyed. Not only that, but everything we hear including the new OP-ed fire and fury, not to mention the people who since left say anything substantially different from what Woodward claims.
As to Mueller being a pretense. it's a pretense that has so far got guilty pleas, indictment and even convictions.
 
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I wonder if Woodward even knows who he talked with??

If he talked with anyone at all.

Of course people will by the book and it will be a best seller. Most best sellers are fiction after all. LOL


He's been exposed before.


"Woodward dismisses CIA guard's dispute of Casey deathbed visit
By Jeff Stein
Washington Post editor Bob Woodward on Monday dismissed the allegation of a former CIA security officer that his famous account of interviewing CIA Director William Casey on his hospital deathbed was “fabricated.”



Kevin Shipp, a member of Casey’s security detail at Georgetown University hospital while he fought a brain tumor in 1987, asserts in a forthcoming, self-published memoir that, “None of the agents allowed Mr. Woodward into the room.”

“Indeed, Woodward did try to enter the hospital room, but was interdicted by the agent in the hot seat [outside Casey’s door] and gracefully shown to the exit,” Shipp recounts in “In from the Shadows: CIA Secrecy and Operations,” the first published account of the controversy by a member of Casey's security detail.

“We, myself included, were there 24 hours a day, seven days a week,” Shipp wrote. “All of us were under orders to let no one into the room.”

Moreover, Shipp adds, “during the time frame that Mr. Woodward claims to have gotten in the room, Casey could not speak due to the effects of a tumor on his brain.”
SpyTalk - Woodward dismisses CIA guard's dispute of Casey deathbed visit
 
.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


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Don't feel half as stupid as you seem to be.
1. Just because Mueller has agreed to accepting SOME answers in writing to SOME of the things he's investigating. Doesn't mean Trump is cleared on that particular PART of the investigation, or that that is the only thing that Mueller IS investigating. In fact we know that besides conspiracy Mueller is looking at obstruction of justice and multiple other prosecutors are looking into Trump's financial dealings. To give an example. Nixon wasn't forced to resign over Watergate directly but rather his attempt to cover it up.
2. When you say EEVRYBODY knows do you mean just people who ignore stuff that doesn't fit the narrative? Steele was just a part of the investigation. In fact it was Papadopolous big mouth that started it. Steele was corroboration not an instigator.
3. Correct you if I'm wrong but wasn't Guillani bragging that the FBI didn't like Hillary? Furthermore if it was a subversion it had to be the most inept one in history since they didn't use the Steele information during the campaign for instance, we learned after. The Trump tower meeting broke after, etc.
4. No they didn't lean HEAVILY on it. Point two already addressed that fallacy.
5. She DIDN'T use it. And what statute are you referring to.
6. Woodward has more credibility then Trump has ever enjoyed. Not only that, but everything we hear including the new OP-ed fire and fury, not to mention the people who since left say anything substantially different from what Woodward claims.
As to Mueller being a pretense. it's a pretense that has so far got guilty pleas, indictment and even convictions.



No, he has gotten zero guilty pleas about collusion, or about any guilt pertaining to his mission.

Zero....you know, like your IQ points.


Don't your hands hurt from holding on by your fingernails for so long?
 
7. "... Barack Obama hit the trail to rewrite the history of his broadly unsuccessful presidency.


... commentators who don’t like Mr. Trump went back on autocue to announce that this was “the darkest hour” of Mr. Trump’s administration, as they have, every six weeks or so since the executive order about travelers from terrorism-plagued or -sponsoring countries in February 2017: Charlottesville, Helsinki, Manafort and Cohen, etc.

Mr. Trump is about to declassify what congressional committees have been seeking, and the anti-Trump press will have real problems maintaining their implacable righteousness. By then, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe may have been indicted, and the charges won’t stop with him."
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus
 
.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


payn_c15987520180913120100.jpg
Don't feel half as stupid as you seem to be.
1. Just because Mueller has agreed to accepting SOME answers in writing to SOME of the things he's investigating. Doesn't mean Trump is cleared on that particular PART of the investigation, or that that is the only thing that Mueller IS investigating. In fact we know that besides conspiracy Mueller is looking at obstruction of justice and multiple other prosecutors are looking into Trump's financial dealings. To give an example. Nixon wasn't forced to resign over Watergate directly but rather his attempt to cover it up.
2. When you say EEVRYBODY knows do you mean just people who ignore stuff that doesn't fit the narrative? Steele was just a part of the investigation. In fact it was Papadopolous big mouth that started it. Steele was corroboration not an instigator.
3. Correct you if I'm wrong but wasn't Guillani bragging that the FBI didn't like Hillary? Furthermore if it was a subversion it had to be the most inept one in history since they didn't use the Steele information during the campaign for instance, we learned after. The Trump tower meeting broke after, etc.
4. No they didn't lean HEAVILY on it. Point two already addressed that fallacy.
5. She DIDN'T use it. And what statute are you referring to.
6. Woodward has more credibility then Trump has ever enjoyed. Not only that, but everything we hear including the new OP-ed fire and fury, not to mention the people who since left say anything substantially different from what Woodward claims.
As to Mueller being a pretense. it's a pretense that has so far got guilty pleas, indictment and even convictions.



No, he has gotten zero guilty pleas about collusion, or about any guilt pertaining to his mission.

Zero....you know, like your IQ points.


Don't your hands hurt from holding on by your fingernails for so long?
His mission is to investigate any coordination between the Trump campaign and ANY CRIMES THAT COME FROM THAT INVESTIGATION. that is his mission.https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download And Papadopulous plead guilty about a meeting he had with, wait for it..... people claiming to speak for the RUSSIANS. Flynn plead guilty for among other things lying to federal investigators about a meeting with, wait for it..... the RUSSIAN ambassador. Furthermore there is IRREFUTABLE evidence that people in the Trump campaign including his son, son-in-law and the campaign manager were receptive to getting help from the RUSSIAN government to win the elections. Seems to me you fail again.
 
.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


payn_c15987520180913120100.jpg
Don't feel half as stupid as you seem to be.
1. Just because Mueller has agreed to accepting SOME answers in writing to SOME of the things he's investigating. Doesn't mean Trump is cleared on that particular PART of the investigation, or that that is the only thing that Mueller IS investigating. In fact we know that besides conspiracy Mueller is looking at obstruction of justice and multiple other prosecutors are looking into Trump's financial dealings. To give an example. Nixon wasn't forced to resign over Watergate directly but rather his attempt to cover it up.
2. When you say EEVRYBODY knows do you mean just people who ignore stuff that doesn't fit the narrative? Steele was just a part of the investigation. In fact it was Papadopolous big mouth that started it. Steele was corroboration not an instigator.
3. Correct you if I'm wrong but wasn't Guillani bragging that the FBI didn't like Hillary? Furthermore if it was a subversion it had to be the most inept one in history since they didn't use the Steele information during the campaign for instance, we learned after. The Trump tower meeting broke after, etc.
4. No they didn't lean HEAVILY on it. Point two already addressed that fallacy.
5. She DIDN'T use it. And what statute are you referring to.
6. Woodward has more credibility then Trump has ever enjoyed. Not only that, but everything we hear including the new OP-ed fire and fury, not to mention the people who since left say anything substantially different from what Woodward claims.
As to Mueller being a pretense. it's a pretense that has so far got guilty pleas, indictment and even convictions.



No, he has gotten zero guilty pleas about collusion, or about any guilt pertaining to his mission.

Zero....you know, like your IQ points.


Don't your hands hurt from holding on by your fingernails for so long?
His mission is to investigate any coordination between the Trump campaign and ANY CRIMES THAT COME FROM THAT INVESTIGATION. that is his mission.https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download And Papadopulous plead guilty about a meeting he had with, wait for it..... people claiming to speak for the RUSSIANS. Flynn plead guilty for among other things lying to federal investigators about a meeting with, wait for it..... the RUSSIAN ambassador. Furthermore there is IRREFUTABLE evidence that people in the Trump campaign including his son, son-in-law and the campaign manager were receptive to getting help from the RUSSIAN government to win the elections. Seems to me you fail again.


I said, you've proven.....there is no evidence of any of the collusion, conspiracy, or collaboration by Trump et al.


BUT......

....lots of evidence of Democrats colluding, conspiring and selling out to the Kremlin.



Let's check:

1. There is zero evidence that of any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.


There are scads of evidence of collusion between the media and the DNC, and there is this:

The only folks with a close relationship with the Russians are Democrats.

The names Clinton and Podesta come to mind.


2. "52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe"

52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe - Rasmussen Reports™



Here's why:

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

The first Republican President



And this:

3. "Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal


...the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.


....major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.


Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.


Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons,...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



And


4. "Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin"

Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin » Liberty Alliance


And


5. "EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank"

EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank



6. News anchor highlights all of the known links to Russia





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Democrat collusion???



7. "Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador’s House


Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.) used a personal foundation to pay for a dinner she attended at Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak's Washington, D.C., residence. The senator had failed to disclose her role in the foundation until earlier this month.



McCaskill came under fire this March after she told the Washington Post she never had a "call or meeting" with Kislyak even though she had publicly announced both a call and meeting with him. This week, CNN reportedthat McCaskill also attended a black-tie reception at Kislyak's D.C. residence in November 2015.



McCaskill's attendance at the dinner was accompanied by an $873 payment to the American-Russian Cultural Cooperation Foundation, where Kislyak serves on its board of directors as honorary chairman."


Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador's House




8. Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work


...the powerful Washington lobbying firm run by Clinton ally Tony Podesta filed a document admitting its work for the pro-Russia European Centre for a Modern Ukraine may have principally benefited a foreign government. New disclosures revealed dozens of previously unreported interactions the firm made with influential government offices, including Hillary Clinton's State Department and the office of former Vice President Joe Biden, while lobbying on behalf of the center. Embattled ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort failed to disclose his extensive lobbying efforts on behalf of the center at the time as well.


How do you say 'whoops' in Russian? Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work




9. And we now know.....

..

a. The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.


b. Bill was slipped $500,000 to give a fake speech.
See a. above.

c. " Former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta exits after ... a company that received $35 million from the Russian government..."
http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/uncovering-the-russia-ties-of-hillarys-campaign-chief/

d. "WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller,...violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA."
Mueller now investigating Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta
Russian spies influencing the Obama/Clinton administration via bribes.

e. In 11 months of thorough investigations, there has not been a smidgen of evidence of any connections of Trump to the Russians.


10. Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had extensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages obtained exclusively by Fox News.

Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages. Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele


11. Adam Schiff is the head Democrat on the Intelligence Committee
Remember....if not for double standards, the Democrats would have no standards at all....
The Dems are claiming that the Trump folks colluded with a foreign power to collect damaging material about a political adversary....
And remember: to know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

Schiff orchestrated a plan to get naked and 'kompromat' pictures of Trump, from the Ukrainians!
The problem is.....the 'Ukrainians' who contacted him were comedians who exposed Schiff and the Democrats for what they are.

"Adam Schiff sent his staff to try and collect 'classified materials for the FBI' after Russian pranksters told him Putin has NAKED blackmail pictures of Trump

Adam Schiff spoofed with Russian claim of nude Trump pic | Daily Mail Online





12.“Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had xtensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages…

From Democrat Warner:
"We have so much to discuss u need to be careful but we can help our country," Warner texted the lobbyist, Adam Waldman, on March 22, 2017.

"I'm in," Waldman, whose firm has ties to Hillary Clinton, texted back to Warner.



Secrecy seemed very important to Warner

"Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages.” Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele



“ Secrecy seemed very important to Warner …”
"...would rather not have a paper trail...."



“,,,an honest person would ask themselves how’d they react if that was a text message between Donald Trump, Jr., and some fixer paid for by Sergei Lavrov in which he sought a meeting with someone and didn’t want a paper trail.”
Why Did Mark Warner Try to Secretly Meet With Trump Dossier Author and a Blacklisted Russian Oligarch?



13. The ONLY ones with any collusion with Russia are Democrats.

The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.

And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing, to be President.


The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....


...are Democrats.





Makes you appear like quite an ass, huh?
 
Wonder if any of this will come out in Muellers report??


Probably more of this:

Flatfooted Robert Mueller Surprised by Boston Marathon Bombers' Mosque's Terror Connections






This one????


FBI Director Mueller Doesn't Know Anything About IRS Investigation








Or this Mueller?


 
Item 6.) Clinton's supreme confidence in the Skirpal, Blumenthal, Steele "Russian" Dossier.

Why wouldn't she be confident it would work? She did business with Putin before to get him the Uranium One Deal, got Paid $145 Million for it, and Obama got paid $64 Million for his part. McCain, Holder, and others all got a piece of the pie, and Comey, Rosenstein, Mueller all covered for them.

Putin owed her a favor, and she called it in, and asked The KGB to rig the US Election for her by helping to author a massive smear campaign.
 
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.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


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Don't feel half as stupid as you seem to be.
1. Just because Mueller has agreed to accepting SOME answers in writing to SOME of the things he's investigating. Doesn't mean Trump is cleared on that particular PART of the investigation, or that that is the only thing that Mueller IS investigating. In fact we know that besides conspiracy Mueller is looking at obstruction of justice and multiple other prosecutors are looking into Trump's financial dealings. To give an example. Nixon wasn't forced to resign over Watergate directly but rather his attempt to cover it up.
2. When you say EEVRYBODY knows do you mean just people who ignore stuff that doesn't fit the narrative? Steele was just a part of the investigation. In fact it was Papadopolous big mouth that started it. Steele was corroboration not an instigator.
3. Correct you if I'm wrong but wasn't Guillani bragging that the FBI didn't like Hillary? Furthermore if it was a subversion it had to be the most inept one in history since they didn't use the Steele information during the campaign for instance, we learned after. The Trump tower meeting broke after, etc.
4. No they didn't lean HEAVILY on it. Point two already addressed that fallacy.
5. She DIDN'T use it. And what statute are you referring to.
6. Woodward has more credibility then Trump has ever enjoyed. Not only that, but everything we hear including the new OP-ed fire and fury, not to mention the people who since left say anything substantially different from what Woodward claims.
As to Mueller being a pretense. it's a pretense that has so far got guilty pleas, indictment and even convictions.



No, he has gotten zero guilty pleas about collusion, or about any guilt pertaining to his mission.

Zero....you know, like your IQ points.


Don't your hands hurt from holding on by your fingernails for so long?
His mission is to investigate any coordination between the Trump campaign and ANY CRIMES THAT COME FROM THAT INVESTIGATION. that is his mission.https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download And Papadopulous plead guilty about a meeting he had with, wait for it..... people claiming to speak for the RUSSIANS. Flynn plead guilty for among other things lying to federal investigators about a meeting with, wait for it..... the RUSSIAN ambassador. Furthermore there is IRREFUTABLE evidence that people in the Trump campaign including his son, son-in-law and the campaign manager were receptive to getting help from the RUSSIAN government to win the elections. Seems to me you fail again.


I said, you've proven.....there is no evidence of any of the collusion, conspiracy, or collaboration by Trump et al.


BUT......

....lots of evidence of Democrats colluding, conspiring and selling out to the Kremlin.



Let's check:

1. There is zero evidence that of any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.


There are scads of evidence of collusion between the media and the DNC, and there is this:

The only folks with a close relationship with the Russians are Democrats.

The names Clinton and Podesta come to mind.


2. "52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe"

52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe - Rasmussen Reports™



Here's why:

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

The first Republican President



And this:

3. "Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal


...the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.


....major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.


Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.


Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons,...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



And


4. "Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin"

Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin » Liberty Alliance


And


5. "EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank"

EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank



6. News anchor highlights all of the known links to Russia





-------------------------------------------------------------


Democrat collusion???



7. "Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador’s House


Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.) used a personal foundation to pay for a dinner she attended at Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak's Washington, D.C., residence. The senator had failed to disclose her role in the foundation until earlier this month.



McCaskill came under fire this March after she told the Washington Post she never had a "call or meeting" with Kislyak even though she had publicly announced both a call and meeting with him. This week, CNN reportedthat McCaskill also attended a black-tie reception at Kislyak's D.C. residence in November 2015.



McCaskill's attendance at the dinner was accompanied by an $873 payment to the American-Russian Cultural Cooperation Foundation, where Kislyak serves on its board of directors as honorary chairman."


Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador's House




8. Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work


...the powerful Washington lobbying firm run by Clinton ally Tony Podesta filed a document admitting its work for the pro-Russia European Centre for a Modern Ukraine may have principally benefited a foreign government. New disclosures revealed dozens of previously unreported interactions the firm made with influential government offices, including Hillary Clinton's State Department and the office of former Vice President Joe Biden, while lobbying on behalf of the center. Embattled ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort failed to disclose his extensive lobbying efforts on behalf of the center at the time as well.


How do you say 'whoops' in Russian? Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work




9. And we now know.....

..

a. The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.


b. Bill was slipped $500,000 to give a fake speech.
See a. above.

c. " Former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta exits after ... a company that received $35 million from the Russian government..."
http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/uncovering-the-russia-ties-of-hillarys-campaign-chief/

d. "WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller,...violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA."
Mueller now investigating Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta
Russian spies influencing the Obama/Clinton administration via bribes.

e. In 11 months of thorough investigations, there has not been a smidgen of evidence of any connections of Trump to the Russians.


10. Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had extensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages obtained exclusively by Fox News.

Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages. Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele


11. Adam Schiff is the head Democrat on the Intelligence Committee
Remember....if not for double standards, the Democrats would have no standards at all....
The Dems are claiming that the Trump folks colluded with a foreign power to collect damaging material about a political adversary....
And remember: to know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

Schiff orchestrated a plan to get naked and 'kompromat' pictures of Trump, from the Ukrainians!
The problem is.....the 'Ukrainians' who contacted him were comedians who exposed Schiff and the Democrats for what they are.

"Adam Schiff sent his staff to try and collect 'classified materials for the FBI' after Russian pranksters told him Putin has NAKED blackmail pictures of Trump

Adam Schiff spoofed with Russian claim of nude Trump pic | Daily Mail Online





12.“Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had xtensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages…

From Democrat Warner:
"We have so much to discuss u need to be careful but we can help our country," Warner texted the lobbyist, Adam Waldman, on March 22, 2017.

"I'm in," Waldman, whose firm has ties to Hillary Clinton, texted back to Warner.



Secrecy seemed very important to Warner

"Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages.” Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele



“ Secrecy seemed very important to Warner …”
"...would rather not have a paper trail...."



“,,,an honest person would ask themselves how’d they react if that was a text message between Donald Trump, Jr., and some fixer paid for by Sergei Lavrov in which he sought a meeting with someone and didn’t want a paper trail.”
Why Did Mark Warner Try to Secretly Meet With Trump Dossier Author and a Blacklisted Russian Oligarch?



13. The ONLY ones with any collusion with Russia are Democrats.

The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.

And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing, to be President.


The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....


...are Democrats.





Makes you appear like quite an ass, huh?

Done with playing your game. Keeping on spewing more talking points, without EVER addressing the points that the other person makes might be a fun game but it's NOT a discussion. I gave you a point by point reply to your OP. After which you replied by trying a counterargument of just one. Something I then again directly refuted. Now you come up with 13 points most of which are simple whataboutism, the rest consisting of reasserting your previous points. I don't mind wasting my time, I'm on this forum after all. I do mind talking to people who have ZERO interest in actually engaging in conversation.
 
Item 6.) Clinton's supreme confidence in the Skirpal, Blumenthal, Steele "Russian" Dossier.

Why wouldn't she be confident it would work? She did business with Putin before to get him the Uranium One Deal, bot Paid $145 Million for it, and Obama got paid $64 Million for his part. McCain, Holder, and others all got a piece of the pie, and Comey, Rosenstein, Mueller all covered for them.

Putin owed her a favor, and she called it in, and asked The KGB to rig the US Election for her by helping to author a massive smear campaign.

Total and complete bullshit. Clinton did no "business" with Putin. Stop lying
 
Item 6.) Clinton's supreme confidence in the Skirpal, Blumenthal, Steele "Russian" Dossier.

Why wouldn't she be confident it would work? She did business with Putin before to get him the Uranium One Deal, bot Paid $145 Million for it, and Obama got paid $64 Million for his part. McCain, Holder, and others all got a piece of the pie, and Comey, Rosenstein, Mueller all covered for them.

Putin owed her a favor, and she called it in, and asked The KGB to rig the US Election for her by helping to author a massive smear campaign.

Total and complete bullshit. Clinton did no "business" with Putin. Stop lying
Explain the existence of The Russian Dossier.

Why did Obama, Clinton, The DNC launder $15 Million to COIE Lawfirm, bounce that through Fusion GPS and then pay British-Russian Double Agent, Steele and Skirpal a "Russian" Agent that money, which is a direct violation of not only THE RICO ACT but also Campaign Finance Laws.
 
.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


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Don't feel half as stupid as you seem to be.
1. Just because Mueller has agreed to accepting SOME answers in writing to SOME of the things he's investigating. Doesn't mean Trump is cleared on that particular PART of the investigation, or that that is the only thing that Mueller IS investigating. In fact we know that besides conspiracy Mueller is looking at obstruction of justice and multiple other prosecutors are looking into Trump's financial dealings. To give an example. Nixon wasn't forced to resign over Watergate directly but rather his attempt to cover it up.
2. When you say EVERYBODY knows do you mean just people who ignore stuff that doesn't fit the narrative? Steele was just a part of the investigation. In fact it was Papadopolous big mouth that started it. Steele was corroboration not an instigator.
3. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Guillani bragging that the FBI didn't like Hillary? Furthermore if it was a subversion it had to be the most inept one in history since they didn't use the Steele information during the campaign for, we learned after. The Trump tower meeting broke after, etc.
4. No they didn't lean HEAVILY on it. Point two already addressed that fallacy.
5. She DIDN'T use it. And what statute are you referring to.
6. Woodward has more credibility then Trump has ever enjoyed. Not only that, but everything we hear including the new OP-ed fire and fury, not to mention the people who since left say anything substantially different from what Woodward claims.
As to Mueller being a pretense. it's a pretense that has so far got guilty pleas, indictment and even convictions.


Moron, without the Steele dossier the FBI could not have gotten the FISA warrants....it is the primary source they use to lie to the Federal judges.

The guilty pleas? You mean for decades old tax evasion and "Lying" to the FBI on technical details that got popadopolous 14 days? The stupid is strong with you.....
 
.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


payn_c15987520180913120100.jpg
Don't feel half as stupid as you seem to be.
1. Just because Mueller has agreed to accepting SOME answers in writing to SOME of the things he's investigating. Doesn't mean Trump is cleared on that particular PART of the investigation, or that that is the only thing that Mueller IS investigating. In fact we know that besides conspiracy Mueller is looking at obstruction of justice and multiple other prosecutors are looking into Trump's financial dealings. To give an example. Nixon wasn't forced to resign over Watergate directly but rather his attempt to cover it up.
2. When you say EEVRYBODY knows do you mean just people who ignore stuff that doesn't fit the narrative? Steele was just a part of the investigation. In fact it was Papadopolous big mouth that started it. Steele was corroboration not an instigator.
3. Correct you if I'm wrong but wasn't Guillani bragging that the FBI didn't like Hillary? Furthermore if it was a subversion it had to be the most inept one in history since they didn't use the Steele information during the campaign for instance, we learned after. The Trump tower meeting broke after, etc.
4. No they didn't lean HEAVILY on it. Point two already addressed that fallacy.
5. She DIDN'T use it. And what statute are you referring to.
6. Woodward has more credibility then Trump has ever enjoyed. Not only that, but everything we hear including the new OP-ed fire and fury, not to mention the people who since left say anything substantially different from what Woodward claims.
As to Mueller being a pretense. it's a pretense that has so far got guilty pleas, indictment and even convictions.



No, he has gotten zero guilty pleas about collusion, or about any guilt pertaining to his mission.

Zero....you know, like your IQ points.


Don't your hands hurt from holding on by your fingernails for so long?
His mission is to investigate any coordination between the Trump campaign and ANY CRIMES THAT COME FROM THAT INVESTIGATION. that is his mission.https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download And Papadopulous plead guilty about a meeting he had with, wait for it..... people claiming to speak for the RUSSIANS. Flynn plead guilty for among other things lying to federal investigators about a meeting with, wait for it..... the RUSSIAN ambassador. Furthermore there is IRREFUTABLE evidence that people in the Trump campaign including his son, son-in-law and the campaign manager were receptive to getting help from the RUSSIAN government to win the elections. Seems to me you fail again.


I said, you've proven.....there is no evidence of any of the collusion, conspiracy, or collaboration by Trump et al.


BUT......

....lots of evidence of Democrats colluding, conspiring and selling out to the Kremlin.



Let's check:

1. There is zero evidence that of any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.


There are scads of evidence of collusion between the media and the DNC, and there is this:

The only folks with a close relationship with the Russians are Democrats.

The names Clinton and Podesta come to mind.


2. "52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe"

52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe - Rasmussen Reports™



Here's why:

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

The first Republican President



And this:

3. "Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal


...the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.


....major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.


Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.


Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons,...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



And


4. "Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin"

Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin » Liberty Alliance


And


5. "EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank"

EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank



6. News anchor highlights all of the known links to Russia





-------------------------------------------------------------


Democrat collusion???



7. "Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador’s House


Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.) used a personal foundation to pay for a dinner she attended at Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak's Washington, D.C., residence. The senator had failed to disclose her role in the foundation until earlier this month.



McCaskill came under fire this March after she told the Washington Post she never had a "call or meeting" with Kislyak even though she had publicly announced both a call and meeting with him. This week, CNN reportedthat McCaskill also attended a black-tie reception at Kislyak's D.C. residence in November 2015.



McCaskill's attendance at the dinner was accompanied by an $873 payment to the American-Russian Cultural Cooperation Foundation, where Kislyak serves on its board of directors as honorary chairman."


Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador's House




8. Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work


...the powerful Washington lobbying firm run by Clinton ally Tony Podesta filed a document admitting its work for the pro-Russia European Centre for a Modern Ukraine may have principally benefited a foreign government. New disclosures revealed dozens of previously unreported interactions the firm made with influential government offices, including Hillary Clinton's State Department and the office of former Vice President Joe Biden, while lobbying on behalf of the center. Embattled ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort failed to disclose his extensive lobbying efforts on behalf of the center at the time as well.


How do you say 'whoops' in Russian? Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work




9. And we now know.....

..

a. The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.


b. Bill was slipped $500,000 to give a fake speech.
See a. above.

c. " Former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta exits after ... a company that received $35 million from the Russian government..."
http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/uncovering-the-russia-ties-of-hillarys-campaign-chief/

d. "WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller,...violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA."
Mueller now investigating Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta
Russian spies influencing the Obama/Clinton administration via bribes.

e. In 11 months of thorough investigations, there has not been a smidgen of evidence of any connections of Trump to the Russians.


10. Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had extensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages obtained exclusively by Fox News.

Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages. Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele


11. Adam Schiff is the head Democrat on the Intelligence Committee
Remember....if not for double standards, the Democrats would have no standards at all....
The Dems are claiming that the Trump folks colluded with a foreign power to collect damaging material about a political adversary....
And remember: to know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

Schiff orchestrated a plan to get naked and 'kompromat' pictures of Trump, from the Ukrainians!
The problem is.....the 'Ukrainians' who contacted him were comedians who exposed Schiff and the Democrats for what they are.

"Adam Schiff sent his staff to try and collect 'classified materials for the FBI' after Russian pranksters told him Putin has NAKED blackmail pictures of Trump

Adam Schiff spoofed with Russian claim of nude Trump pic | Daily Mail Online





12.“Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had xtensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages…

From Democrat Warner:
"We have so much to discuss u need to be careful but we can help our country," Warner texted the lobbyist, Adam Waldman, on March 22, 2017.

"I'm in," Waldman, whose firm has ties to Hillary Clinton, texted back to Warner.



Secrecy seemed very important to Warner

"Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages.” Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele



“ Secrecy seemed very important to Warner …”
"...would rather not have a paper trail...."



“,,,an honest person would ask themselves how’d they react if that was a text message between Donald Trump, Jr., and some fixer paid for by Sergei Lavrov in which he sought a meeting with someone and didn’t want a paper trail.”
Why Did Mark Warner Try to Secretly Meet With Trump Dossier Author and a Blacklisted Russian Oligarch?



13. The ONLY ones with any collusion with Russia are Democrats.

The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.

And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing, to be President.


The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....


...are Democrats.





Makes you appear like quite an ass, huh?

Done with playing your game. Keeping on spewing more talking points, without EVER addressing the points that the other person makes might be a fun game but it's NOT a discussion. I gave you a point by point reply to your OP. After which you replied by trying a counterargument of just one. Something I then again directly refuted. Now you come up with 13 points most of which are simple whataboutism, the rest consisting of reasserting your previous points. I don't mind wasting my time, I'm on this forum after all. I do mind talking to people who have ZERO interest in actually engaging in conversation.




Please be sure to get back to me when you can dispute these indicia....

...but, I'll probably be ice skating in Hell by then....


1. There is zero evidence that of any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.


There are scads of evidence of collusion between the media and the DNC, and there is this:

The only folks with a close relationship with the Russians are Democrats.

The names Clinton and Podesta come to mind.


2. "52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe"

52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe - Rasmussen Reports™



Here's why:

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

The first Republican President



And this:

3. "Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal


...the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.


....major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.


Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.


Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons,...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



And


4. "Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin"

Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin » Liberty Alliance


And


5. "EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank"

EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank



6. News anchor highlights all of the known links to Russia





-------------------------------------------------------------


Democrat collusion???



7. "Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador’s House


Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.) used a personal foundation to pay for a dinner she attended at Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak's Washington, D.C., residence. The senator had failed to disclose her role in the foundation until earlier this month.



McCaskill came under fire this March after she told the Washington Post she never had a "call or meeting" with Kislyak even though she had publicly announced both a call and meeting with him. This week, CNN reportedthat McCaskill also attended a black-tie reception at Kislyak's D.C. residence in November 2015.



McCaskill's attendance at the dinner was accompanied by an $873 payment to the American-Russian Cultural Cooperation Foundation, where Kislyak serves on its board of directors as honorary chairman."


Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador's House




8. Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work


...the powerful Washington lobbying firm run by Clinton ally Tony Podesta filed a document admitting its work for the pro-Russia European Centre for a Modern Ukraine may have principally benefited a foreign government. New disclosures revealed dozens of previously unreported interactions the firm made with influential government offices, including Hillary Clinton's State Department and the office of former Vice President Joe Biden, while lobbying on behalf of the center. Embattled ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort failed to disclose his extensive lobbying efforts on behalf of the center at the time as well.


How do you say 'whoops' in Russian? Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work




9. And we now know.....

..

a. The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.


b. Bill was slipped $500,000 to give a fake speech.
See a. above.

c. " Former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta exits after ... a company that received $35 million from the Russian government..."
http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/uncovering-the-russia-ties-of-hillarys-campaign-chief/

d. "WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller,...violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA."
Mueller now investigating Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta
Russian spies influencing the Obama/Clinton administration via bribes.

e. In 11 months of thorough investigations, there has not been a smidgen of evidence of any connections of Trump to the Russians.


10. Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had extensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages obtained exclusively by Fox News.

Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages. Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele


11. Adam Schiff is the head Democrat on the Intelligence Committee
Remember....if not for double standards, the Democrats would have no standards at all....
The Dems are claiming that the Trump folks colluded with a foreign power to collect damaging material about a political adversary....
And remember: to know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

Schiff orchestrated a plan to get naked and 'kompromat' pictures of Trump, from the Ukrainians!
The problem is.....the 'Ukrainians' who contacted him were comedians who exposed Schiff and the Democrats for what they are.

"Adam Schiff sent his staff to try and collect 'classified materials for the FBI' after Russian pranksters told him Putin has NAKED blackmail pictures of Trump

Adam Schiff spoofed with Russian claim of nude Trump pic | Daily Mail Online





12.“Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had xtensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages…

From Democrat Warner:
"We have so much to discuss u need to be careful but we can help our country," Warner texted the lobbyist, Adam Waldman, on March 22, 2017.

"I'm in," Waldman, whose firm has ties to Hillary Clinton, texted back to Warner.



Secrecy seemed very important to Warner

"Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages.” Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele



“ Secrecy seemed very important to Warner …”
"...would rather not have a paper trail...."



“,,,an honest person would ask themselves how’d they react if that was a text message between Donald Trump, Jr., and some fixer paid for by Sergei Lavrov in which he sought a meeting with someone and didn’t want a paper trail.”
Why Did Mark Warner Try to Secretly Meet With Trump Dossier Author and a Blacklisted Russian Oligarch?



13. The ONLY ones with any collusion with Russia are Democrats.

The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.

And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing, to be President.


The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....


...are Democrats.
 
8. "The mystery is why Robert Mueller, for all his experience and vaunted probity, chose a gang of rabid Trump-haters to conduct this operation, and why, when he must have realized it was a wild goose chase, he didn’t fold it up or turn it into an investigation of the sleazy conduct of Mr. Trump’s enemies, which, given the Russian connection, would have been within his mandate.

[Get that??? Russian connections to the Democrats!!!!]



There is now evidence that Mr. Steele, even after he was fired by the FBI for leaking material, via senior Justice Department official Bruce Ohr “and his lovely wife,” as Mr. Trump calls Mrs. Ohr (who worked at Fusion with Mr. Steele), moved straight to Mr. Mueller’s special-counsel team.

Mr. Mueller may have mishandled this so badly, he ensnares himself in the misconduct of those who commissioned him."
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus




Orange jump-suits all around!!!!!!

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.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


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Don't feel half as stupid as you seem to be.
1. Just because Mueller has agreed to accepting SOME answers in writing to SOME of the things he's investigating. Doesn't mean Trump is cleared on that particular PART of the investigation, or that that is the only thing that Mueller IS investigating. In fact we know that besides conspiracy Mueller is looking at obstruction of justice and multiple other prosecutors are looking into Trump's financial dealings. To give an example. Nixon wasn't forced to resign over Watergate directly but rather his attempt to cover it up.
2. When you say EEVRYBODY knows do you mean just people who ignore stuff that doesn't fit the narrative? Steele was just a part of the investigation. In fact it was Papadopolous big mouth that started it. Steele was corroboration not an instigator.
3. Correct you if I'm wrong but wasn't Guillani bragging that the FBI didn't like Hillary? Furthermore if it was a subversion it had to be the most inept one in history since they didn't use the Steele information during the campaign for instance, we learned after. The Trump tower meeting broke after, etc.
4. No they didn't lean HEAVILY on it. Point two already addressed that fallacy.
5. She DIDN'T use it. And what statute are you referring to.
6. Woodward has more credibility then Trump has ever enjoyed. Not only that, but everything we hear including the new OP-ed fire and fury, not to mention the people who since left say anything substantially different from what Woodward claims.
As to Mueller being a pretense. it's a pretense that has so far got guilty pleas, indictment and even convictions.



No, he has gotten zero guilty pleas about collusion, or about any guilt pertaining to his mission.

Zero....you know, like your IQ points.


Don't your hands hurt from holding on by your fingernails for so long?
His mission is to investigate any coordination between the Trump campaign and ANY CRIMES THAT COME FROM THAT INVESTIGATION. that is his mission.https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download And Papadopulous plead guilty about a meeting he had with, wait for it..... people claiming to speak for the RUSSIANS. Flynn plead guilty for among other things lying to federal investigators about a meeting with, wait for it..... the RUSSIAN ambassador. Furthermore there is IRREFUTABLE evidence that people in the Trump campaign including his son, son-in-law and the campaign manager were receptive to getting help from the RUSSIAN government to win the elections. Seems to me you fail again.
forkup, papadopulous plead guilty for lying. nothing about his discussion with a russian. you're just flat ass wrong there. now name us one russia guilty plea or indictment from a trump campaign person. I'll wait cause you can't answer that.
 
.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus


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Don't feel half as stupid as you seem to be.
1. Just because Mueller has agreed to accepting SOME answers in writing to SOME of the things he's investigating. Doesn't mean Trump is cleared on that particular PART of the investigation, or that that is the only thing that Mueller IS investigating. In fact we know that besides conspiracy Mueller is looking at obstruction of justice and multiple other prosecutors are looking into Trump's financial dealings. To give an example. Nixon wasn't forced to resign over Watergate directly but rather his attempt to cover it up.
2. When you say EEVRYBODY knows do you mean just people who ignore stuff that doesn't fit the narrative? Steele was just a part of the investigation. In fact it was Papadopolous big mouth that started it. Steele was corroboration not an instigator.
3. Correct you if I'm wrong but wasn't Guillani bragging that the FBI didn't like Hillary? Furthermore if it was a subversion it had to be the most inept one in history since they didn't use the Steele information during the campaign for instance, we learned after. The Trump tower meeting broke after, etc.
4. No they didn't lean HEAVILY on it. Point two already addressed that fallacy.
5. She DIDN'T use it. And what statute are you referring to.
6. Woodward has more credibility then Trump has ever enjoyed. Not only that, but everything we hear including the new OP-ed fire and fury, not to mention the people who since left say anything substantially different from what Woodward claims.
As to Mueller being a pretense. it's a pretense that has so far got guilty pleas, indictment and even convictions.



No, he has gotten zero guilty pleas about collusion, or about any guilt pertaining to his mission.

Zero....you know, like your IQ points.


Don't your hands hurt from holding on by your fingernails for so long?
His mission is to investigate any coordination between the Trump campaign and ANY CRIMES THAT COME FROM THAT INVESTIGATION. that is his mission.https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download And Papadopulous plead guilty about a meeting he had with, wait for it..... people claiming to speak for the RUSSIANS. Flynn plead guilty for among other things lying to federal investigators about a meeting with, wait for it..... the RUSSIAN ambassador. Furthermore there is IRREFUTABLE evidence that people in the Trump campaign including his son, son-in-law and the campaign manager were receptive to getting help from the RUSSIAN government to win the elections. Seems to me you fail again.


I said, you've proven.....there is no evidence of any of the collusion, conspiracy, or collaboration by Trump et al.


BUT......

....lots of evidence of Democrats colluding, conspiring and selling out to the Kremlin.



Let's check:

1. There is zero evidence that of any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.


There are scads of evidence of collusion between the media and the DNC, and there is this:

The only folks with a close relationship with the Russians are Democrats.

The names Clinton and Podesta come to mind.


2. "52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe"

52% Say Clintons Should Be Part of Russia Probe - Rasmussen Reports™



Here's why:

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

The first Republican President



And this:

3. "Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal


...the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.


....major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.


Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.


Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons,...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



And


4. "Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin"

Both Hillary Clinton And John Podesta Made Millions From Russia & Putin » Liberty Alliance


And


5. "EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank"

EXCLUSIVE: Dem Super-Lobbyist Podesta Got $170K to End US Sanctions On Russian Bank



6. News anchor highlights all of the known links to Russia





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Democrat collusion???



7. "Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador’s House


Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.) used a personal foundation to pay for a dinner she attended at Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak's Washington, D.C., residence. The senator had failed to disclose her role in the foundation until earlier this month.



McCaskill came under fire this March after she told the Washington Post she never had a "call or meeting" with Kislyak even though she had publicly announced both a call and meeting with him. This week, CNN reportedthat McCaskill also attended a black-tie reception at Kislyak's D.C. residence in November 2015.



McCaskill's attendance at the dinner was accompanied by an $873 payment to the American-Russian Cultural Cooperation Foundation, where Kislyak serves on its board of directors as honorary chairman."


Claire McCaskill Used Undisclosed Foundation to Pay for Dinner at Russian Ambassador's House




8. Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work


...the powerful Washington lobbying firm run by Clinton ally Tony Podesta filed a document admitting its work for the pro-Russia European Centre for a Modern Ukraine may have principally benefited a foreign government. New disclosures revealed dozens of previously unreported interactions the firm made with influential government offices, including Hillary Clinton's State Department and the office of former Vice President Joe Biden, while lobbying on behalf of the center. Embattled ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort failed to disclose his extensive lobbying efforts on behalf of the center at the time as well.


How do you say 'whoops' in Russian? Podesta Group retroactively files more DOJ disclosures for pro-Putin work




9. And we now know.....

..

a. The Russians paid $145 million to the Clinton Crime Family, and in return appropriated a large portion of our uranium.
They have energy....so it in to be used for weapons......
Against whom?
Us.


b. Bill was slipped $500,000 to give a fake speech.
See a. above.

c. " Former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta exits after ... a company that received $35 million from the Russian government..."
http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/uncovering-the-russia-ties-of-hillarys-campaign-chief/

d. "WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller,...violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA."
Mueller now investigating Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta
Russian spies influencing the Obama/Clinton administration via bribes.

e. In 11 months of thorough investigations, there has not been a smidgen of evidence of any connections of Trump to the Russians.


10. Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had extensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages obtained exclusively by Fox News.

Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages. Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele


11. Adam Schiff is the head Democrat on the Intelligence Committee
Remember....if not for double standards, the Democrats would have no standards at all....
The Dems are claiming that the Trump folks colluded with a foreign power to collect damaging material about a political adversary....
And remember: to know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

Schiff orchestrated a plan to get naked and 'kompromat' pictures of Trump, from the Ukrainians!
The problem is.....the 'Ukrainians' who contacted him were comedians who exposed Schiff and the Democrats for what they are.

"Adam Schiff sent his staff to try and collect 'classified materials for the FBI' after Russian pranksters told him Putin has NAKED blackmail pictures of Trump

Adam Schiff spoofed with Russian claim of nude Trump pic | Daily Mail Online





12.“Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump's alleged ties to Russia, had xtensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele, according to text messages…

From Democrat Warner:
"We have so much to discuss u need to be careful but we can help our country," Warner texted the lobbyist, Adam Waldman, on March 22, 2017.

"I'm in," Waldman, whose firm has ties to Hillary Clinton, texted back to Warner.



Secrecy seemed very important to Warner

"Throughout the text exchanges, Warner seemed particularly intent on connecting directly with Steele without anyone else on the Senate Intelligence Committee being in the loop -- at least initially. In one text to the lobbyist, Warner wrote that he would "rather not have a paper trail" of his messages.” Democratic Sen. Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact dossier author Christopher Steele



“ Secrecy seemed very important to Warner …”
"...would rather not have a paper trail...."



“,,,an honest person would ask themselves how’d they react if that was a text message between Donald Trump, Jr., and some fixer paid for by Sergei Lavrov in which he sought a meeting with someone and didn’t want a paper trail.”
Why Did Mark Warner Try to Secretly Meet With Trump Dossier Author and a Blacklisted Russian Oligarch?



13. The ONLY ones with any collusion with Russia are Democrats.

The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.

And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing, to be President.


The only group that we know has colluded with, conspired with, contracted with, been bribed by, paid the Russians, the Kremlin, Moscow....


...are Democrats.





Makes you appear like quite an ass, huh?

I do so enjoy Liz Wheeler.
 
.....how really stupid must you be feeling about now?


Or....is that your natural condition?


1. "The Resistance has abandoned the accusation of impeachable offenses. The press barely noticed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s acceptance of written answers to questions about collusion, or Rudolph Giuliani’s assertion that there would be no discussion of obstruction of justice, that there has been no obstruction, and that if Mr. Mueller thinks he has evidence of any, he should present it.

2. Everyone now knows that the entire Trump-Russian collusion argument was a complete fabrication on the basis of the Steele dossier, which was a pack of lies from A to Z, and, of course, was commissioned and financed by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, through a law firm and Fusion GPS.

3. ... Mrs. Clinton and her entourage scored an immense success in subverting high levels of the intelligence agencies and the Justice Department and FBI to pursue this canard with the zeal they did.

4. ...figures in Justice and the FBI swallowed Mr. Steele’s story and invested in it so heavily they severely compromised the institutions that employed them.




5. Hillary Clinton must have been serenely confident that the source, quality, and funding of the Steele dossier would never see the light of day....Martha Stewart was sent to prison for less, and Hillary seems to have violated serious statutes.

6. ...the Democrats joined the Never Trump chorus in the McCain obsequies, and the habitually discredited political gossip Bob Woodward, reinforced by anonymous informants recruited or invented by the New York Times, wrote that the Trump White House was in chaos (irrelevant if the Constitution is not being violated and the policies work).
Dirtiest Trick In U.S. History Comes Into Focus

You and no one else knows what Mueller has or doesn't have regarding this investigation.
We all know who has been indicted, who has pleaded guilty to crimes, who Mueller has interviewed and who he has granted immunity.
But no one knows what evidence has has gathered from all of the above.
Whether it be a Trump supporter or a Trump hater, it's all conjecture.
You appear to be just another tin-hat conspiracy contributor. Nothing more or nothing less.


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