If we had the Christians on our side, abortion would be illegal in 5 minutes...

[Vastator]

Wait...are you denying that any women pay alimony and/or child support? Yes or No.

Oh...and while I am waiting for your denial.....More women are now paying alimony and child support

Hardly a Male-only law now, is it?

Insert Jeopardy theme music here.... Still waiting...

Let me help you with that...
The disparity between enforcement of failing to pay child support and custodial interference is particularly calamitous for fathers, who represent 87.1 percent of child support payers and 82.6 percent of noncustodial parents, according to the U.S. Census.

So? Are you trying to foist a law that is for everyone on us as if it is a law only applying to males?

As it is applied almost exlusively to males, except under the rarest, and most dire of circumstances, ie; woman goes to prison or other serious criminal offenses? Yes. Yes I am. It’s called reality. You should try it sometime.
Though... If I had to wager... I’d be willing to bet you already have. Probably a couple times now...

Sorry, but I am thinking about time to pass laws that controls men's bodies just like anti-choice people want to control women's bodies. Maybe that will get their attention then.

We’ve already got them. Ever heard of child support, alimony?

 

[Vastator]

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Insert Jeopardy theme music here.... Still waiting...

Let me help you with that...
The disparity between enforcement of failing to pay child support and custodial interference is particularly calamitous for fathers, who represent 87.1 percent of child support payers and 82.6 percent of noncustodial parents, according to the U.S. Census.

So? Are you trying to foist a law that is for everyone on us as if it is a law only applying to males?

As it is applied almost exlusively to males, except under the rarest, and most dire of circumstances, ie; woman goes to prison or other serious criminal offenses? Yes. Yes I am. It’s called reality. You should try it sometime.
Though... If I had to wager... I’d be willing to bet you already have. Probably a couple times now...

Sorry, but I am thinking about time to pass laws that controls men's bodies just like anti-choice people want to control women's bodies. Maybe that will get their attention then.

We’ve already got them. Ever heard of child support, alimony?

The fact of the matter is (and you can’t fucking stand it); is that the abortion issue isn’t about women’s bodies. It’s about the bodies of innocent children. Women had their chance to excersize their choice when they got pregnant.
Even then they’re free to do with their bodies as they will without criticism. Run your fingers through a band saw. No one will try to stop you. Or even legislate against it. Stuff your feet in a wood chipper? Totally acceptable.
Kill an innocent child? Nope. But you are free to kill yourself if you regret the choices you’ve made. Your body your choice. No one gives a shit about you, or ever has. Our concern is, and always has been for the innocent child...

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

The fact is, Christians are all over the place on abortion. All we really have in our corner are the evangelicals and the Catholics, and not even all of them.

Some Christian denominations are actually PRO-ABORTION and a pastor will often counsel a girl or woman to abort her child instead of keep it.

The corrupt and failing mainstream Protestant denominations are the worst offenders.

CINOS. Christian in name only. They are being judged.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The fact of the matter is (and you can’t fucking stand it); is that the abortion issue isn’t about women’s bodies.

Lie. It's about you wanting to control women. Period.

 

[Vastator]

The fact of the matter is (and you can’t fucking stand it); is that the abortion issue isn’t about women’s bodies.

Lie. It's about you wanting to control women. Period.

Like I said... “You can’t fucking stand it”...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The fact of the matter is (and you can’t fucking stand it); is that the abortion issue isn’t about women’s bodies.

Lie. It's about you wanting to control women. Period.

Like I said... “You can’t fucking stand it”...

But you say a lot of things...mostly lies to distract from your archaic attempts to control women...

 

[bodecea]

The fact of the matter is (and you can’t fucking stand it); is that the abortion issue isn’t about women’s bodies.

Lie. It's about you wanting to control women. Period.

Like I said... “You can’t fucking stand it”...

It's quite clear that you want to control women's bodies.

 

[Vastator]

The fact of the matter is (and you can’t fucking stand it); is that the abortion issue isn’t about women’s bodies.

Lie. It's about you wanting to control women. Period.

Like I said... “You can’t fucking stand it”...

But you say a lot of things...mostly lies to distract from your archaic attempts to control women...

Put it to the test then... Go ahead. Stuff your forearms in a bailer. See who tries to stop you. Shove your leg into a wood chipper, and see how many people want to charge you with a crime... Don’t worry we’ll wait...
The fact of the matter is that no one gives two shits about what you do, to you. No one...
But your freedom to swing your fist; ends, where another’s nose begins. Using your body to cause injury or death to another is never going to be acceptable. Regardless of what you prefer to choose. Because the fact of the matter is; it isn’t about you. Never was... Never will be...

 

[Vastator]

The fact of the matter is (and you can’t fucking stand it); is that the abortion issue isn’t about women’s bodies.

Lie. It's about you wanting to control women. Period.

Like I said... “You can’t fucking stand it”...

It's quite clear that you want to control women's bodies.

Test that theory. It will do far more to prove your point, than repeating yourself...

 

[Cecilie1200]

The fact is, Christians are all over the place on abortion. All we really have in our corner are the evangelicals and the Catholics, and not even all of them.

Some Christian denominations are actually PRO-ABORTION and a pastor will often counsel a girl or woman to abort her child instead of keep it.

The corrupt and failing mainstream Protestant denominations are the worst offenders.

Rather a broad brush you're painting with there.

Simple answer: being a Christian doesn't make one any less human, or any less prone to making mistakes.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The fact is, Christians are all over the place on abortion. All we really have in our corner are the evangelicals and the Catholics, and not even all of them.

Some Christian denominations are actually PRO-ABORTION and a pastor will often counsel a girl or woman to abort her child instead of keep it.

The corrupt and failing mainstream Protestant denominations are the worst offenders.

The so called Christians who embrace abortion are not Christians. The bible tells us about them..they are blasphemers, false prophets, and they are nothing of God.

Or they're just seriously misguided and misled.

 

[danielpalos]

The fact is, Christians are all over the place on abortion. All we really have in our corner are the evangelicals and the Catholics, and not even all of them.

Some Christian denominations are actually PRO-ABORTION and a pastor will often counsel a girl or woman to abort her child instead of keep it.

The corrupt and failing mainstream Protestant denominations are the worst offenders.

Government solves all problems for the right wing; yet, they allege to subscribe to Capitalism.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The fact is, Christians are all over the place on abortion. All we really have in our corner are the evangelicals and the Catholics, and not even all of them.

Some Christian denominations are actually PRO-ABORTION and a pastor will often counsel a girl or woman to abort her child instead of keep it.

The corrupt and failing mainstream Protestant denominations are the worst offenders.

Half the problem is that the theists believe that Athiests support abortion. Most don’t. So there is no combined front lobbying for the lives of the innocent....

yeah, the baby killers like to pretend that supporting *choice* is different that supporting *abortion*. Just like they like to pretend that supporting abortion is supporting *life*. Which of course, it isn't.

See 1984 and Newspeak. Words can't be allowed to have an obective meaning.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The fact is, Christians are all over the place on abortion. All we really have in our corner are the evangelicals and the Catholics, and not even all of them.

Some Christian denominations are actually PRO-ABORTION and a pastor will often counsel a girl or woman to abort her child instead of keep it.

The corrupt and failing mainstream Protestant denominations are the worst offenders.

Half the problem is that the theists believe that Athiests support abortion. Most don’t. So there is no combined front lobbying for the lives of the innocent....

yeah, the baby killers like to pretend that supporting *choice* is different that supporting *abortion*. Just like they like to pretend that supporting abortion is supporting *life*. Which of course, it isn't.

And every rational mind knows exactly what happens in an abortion. No abortion is successful if a child doesn’t die...

Part of the problem is that you think we're talking about rational, informed minds. The left has gone out of its way for decades to ensure that most people are as irrational and uniformed on the subject of abortion as it's possible to be and still be technically able to read, write, and do arithmetic.

 

[danielpalos]

Prevention is more ethical; Only the right wing has a moral problem with it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The fact is, Christians are all over the place on abortion. All we really have in our corner are the evangelicals and the Catholics, and not even all of them.

Some Christian denominations are actually PRO-ABORTION and a pastor will often counsel a girl or woman to abort her child instead of keep it.

The corrupt and failing mainstream Protestant denominations are the worst offenders.

Half the problem is that the theists believe that Athiests support abortion. Most don’t. So there is no combined front lobbying for the lives of the innocent....

yeah, the baby killers like to pretend that supporting *choice* is different that supporting *abortion*. Just like they like to pretend that supporting abortion is supporting *life*. Which of course, it isn't.

And every rational mind knows exactly what happens in an abortion. No abortion is successful if a child doesn’t die...

Part of the problem is that you think we're talking about rational, informed minds. The left has gone out of its way for decades to ensure that most people are as irrational and uniformed on the subject of abortion as it's possible to be and still be technically able to read, write, and do arithmetic.

To follow up on this, Live Action did a video series where they asked a number of women on-camera what their views were on abortion. Those who identified as "pro-choice" were then asked to view a video made by Dr. Anthony Levatino, a former abortion doctor. In it, he explained the various abortion procedures performed at different stages of pregnancy, assisted by animated depictions.

What they found is that very few people on the street truly understand what an abortion is, how it is done, or what it involves. And they found that when people see that and understand it, most of them become a whole lot less supportive of it.

It's the same thing that was found when women contemplating abortion are shown an ultrasound of the fetus: they become less positive about abortion when they can see and understand what's really being talked about.

 

[BreezeWood]

The fact is, Christians are all over the place on abortion. All we really have in our corner are the evangelicals and the Catholics, and not even all of them.

Some Christian denominations are actually PRO-ABORTION and a pastor will often counsel a girl or woman to abort her child instead of keep it.

The corrupt and failing mainstream Protestant denominations are the worst offenders.

Half the problem is that the theists believe that Athiests support abortion. Most don’t. So there is no combined front lobbying for the lives of the innocent....

yeah, the baby killers like to pretend that supporting *choice* is different that supporting *abortion*. Just like they like to pretend that supporting abortion is supporting *life*. Which of course, it isn't.

And every rational mind knows exactly what happens in an abortion. No abortion is successful if a child doesn’t die...

Part of the problem is that you think we're talking about rational, informed minds. The left has gone out of its way for decades to ensure that most people are as irrational and uniformed on the subject of abortion as it's possible to be and still be technically able to read, write, and do arithmetic.

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Part of the problem is that you think we're talking about rational, informed minds. The left has gone out of its way for decades to ensure that most people are as irrational and uniformed on the subject of abortion as it's possible to be and still be technically able to read, write, and do arithmetic.

Part of the problem is that you think we're talking about rational, informed minds ...

]EarthLink - News

Supreme Court blocks Louisiana abortion clinic law

The justices said by a 5-4 vote late Thursday that they will not allow the state to put into effect a law that requires abortion providers to have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals.

Chief Justice John Roberts joined the court's four liberals in putting a hold on the law, pending a full review of the case.

today's ruling - louisiana abortion law

they have someone new to hate ... not to mention the other "rational, informed minds".

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision issued in 1973 by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of the constitutionality of laws that criminalized or restricted access to abortions.

they can't stand the freedom allowed by choice that culminated in the 1973 ruling for all states as the momentum to overturned those laws was already sweeping the country.

 

[Jarlaxle]

For me, babies are a gift from God, and if you are blessed with one then you were chosen by God to bring that baby into this Earth and to make sure it has the best life possible. When God provides the spark inside the womb and starts that precious life it's not our duty, our responsibility, or our right to choose whether it lives or dies in my opinion. Our country's adoption system is broken though in my opinion and really needs to be reformed and made more efficient.

How many unwanted children have YOU adopted? Be honest.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Because the fact of the matter is; it isn’t about you. Never was... Never will be...

Right, it's about you wanting to control women's choices and lives. Period.

 

[Vastator]

Because the fact of the matter is; it isn’t about you. Never was... Never will be...

Right, it's about you wanting to control women's choices and lives. Period.

Still not about you. Even a week later when you you thought you could sneak in the last word. All this time; and still no one cares about you... We care about the innocent children. Take the bandsaw challenge, and see for yourself...