If have any interest in American History...

[rightwinger]

Agree. We saw it too.

I'm afraid a lot of Americans still believe in a John War Is Hell Wayne version of war. We all need to see the truth of it, including the truth of America's role and actions in all wars.

We can say good bye to the excellent programming of PBS though. The Rs and RWNJs don't want quality TV. More important, they don't want TV that is for, of and by the people.

If PBS is worth anything they can compete alongside the other television stations, not be money grubbing liberal bastions of propaganda. Bye bye big bird.

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Yea...let them compete

They will replace all their programing with conspiracy theories and reality TV.....Just like the History Channel, Court TV and A&E

 

[rightwinger]

WWI was a meat grinder which just consumed troops with no real progress being made

The war never should have started and there was no easy way to end it

 

[Unkotare]

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

"As we see today"? I don't think we need to worry too much about the Nazis or Imperial Japan today. Update your list.

 

[Aries]

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

"As we see today"? I don't think we need to worry too much about the Nazis or Imperial Japan today. Update your list.

don't be so quick to write off

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

"As we see today"? I don't think we need to worry too much about the Nazis or Imperial Japan today. Update your list.

Don't write off modern nazis too soon... There's a bunch inhabiting our white house!

 

[Divine Wind]

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

I guess trumps "america first" policy is a little more difficult than he thought.
Who knew being president could be so complex? All this healthcare, congress and war! Who knew!

Correct, just like Obama found out and most Presidents before him.

 

[Unkotare]

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

"As we see today"? I don't think we need to worry too much about the Nazis or Imperial Japan today. Update your list.

don't be so quick to write off

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

"As we see today"? I don't think we need to worry too much about the Nazis or Imperial Japan today. Update your list.

Don't write off modern nazis too soon... There's a bunch inhabiting our white house!

There aren't enough stupid, hyper-partisan troll threads for you? You have to troll this one?

 

[Divine Wind]

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

"As we see today"? I don't think we need to worry too much about the Nazis or Imperial Japan today. Update your list.

From a modern perspective. Do you think the US should have stood up to Japan sooner or were they right to wait for Pearl Harbor? How about the Euros; were they right to wait until Germany had overrun Poland, Czechoslovakia, Belgium and France to fight them or, from a modern perspective, would they have been better off nipping Germany's ass in the bud?

 

[Divine Wind]

WWI was a meat grinder which just consumed troops with no real progress being made

The war never should have started and there was no easy way to end it

Obviously. Sadly, it takes two to make peace and only one to make war.

 

[Unkotare]

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

"As we see today"? I don't think we need to worry too much about the Nazis or Imperial Japan today. Update your list.

From a modern perspective. Do you think the US should have stood up to Japan sooner or were they right to wait for Pearl Harbor? How about the Euros; were they right to wait until Germany had overrun Poland, Czechoslovakia, Belgium and France to fight them or, from a modern perspective, would they have been better off nipping Germany's ass in the bud?

They "should have" not given the territory in China that Germany had been controlling to Japan at the end of WWI. Wilson should have had the sack to stand up to British and French demands to utterly emasculate Germany in the Treaty of Versailles instead of obsessing over his dreams of global social engineering.

 

[Divine Wind]

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

"As we see today"? I don't think we need to worry too much about the Nazis or Imperial Japan today. Update your list.

From a modern perspective. Do you think the US should have stood up to Japan sooner or were they right to wait for Pearl Harbor? How about the Euros; were they right to wait until Germany had overrun Poland, Czechoslovakia, Belgium and France to fight them or, from a modern perspective, would they have been better off nipping Germany's ass in the bud?

They "should have" not given the territory in China that Germany had been controlling to Japan at the end of WWI. Wilson should have had the sack to stand up to British and French demands to utterly emasculate Germany in the Treaty of Versailles instead of obsessing over his dreams of global social engineering.

Wilson did tell them. When they refused, what could he do except what he did? The US didn't have as much power then and too many Americans wanted to go back to isolationism.

 

[Unkotare]

Damn teenagers, always causing trouble.

The man who started WWI: 7 things you didn't know - CNN.com

 

[Unkotare]

The US didn't have as much power then .....

America had great power then. It was Europe that had just been destroyed.

 

[Divine Wind]

The US didn't have as much power then .....

America had great power then. It was Europe that had just been destroyed.

Not as great nor as powerful as after WWII, but more importantly, not as willing to use it.

 

[Unkotare]

The US didn't have as much power then .....

America had great power then. It was Europe that had just been destroyed.

Not as great nor as powerful as after WWII, ...

Irrelevant

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

All wars do a great deal of damage on the working class. You won't ever see a trump spawn enlist. But yea you're on a little bit of a conspiracy trail with that one...

Wars aren't so good on anyone....horses too!

Still, as we see today, should we sit back and let ISIS/Nazis/Imperial Japan or some other assholes do as they want until they arrive at our borders or do we stand up against them? Tough call.

"As we see today"? I don't think we need to worry too much about the Nazis or Imperial Japan today. Update your list.

From a modern perspective. Do you think the US should have stood up to Japan sooner or were they right to wait for Pearl Harbor? How about the Euros; were they right to wait until Germany had overrun Poland, Czechoslovakia, Belgium and France to fight them or, from a modern perspective, would they have been better off nipping Germany's ass in the bud?

We Won't Live Free Until the Establishment Lives in Fear

The Jews should have killed Nazis all through the 20s and 30s; Hitler would have never been able to get very far if they had fought back. Cowardice is the crime that enables all others. Our ruling class, in order to protect themselves, won't let us believe that.

 

[rightwinger]

The US turned the tide in WWI

By the time US forces began to arrive on the battlefield in the summer of 1918, all the combatants were exhausted. Troops had been in the trenches since 1914 and were sick of the war. Both sides were ready to rebel at any time. Millions were dying with no discernible progress in the war. The Russian revolution in 1917 set a spark on both sides. Soldiers had had enough

The arrival of fresh US troops by the 100's of thousands tipped the balance of power. The war ended by November of 1918

 

[Bleipriester]

Sounds like anti-German propaganda.

A good overview offers "Der erste Weltkrieg" by Hans Herzfeld.

Fuck the Keiser and the Nazis who rose up after him. Fuck ISIS and Assad too!

Thanks for the info on the series, DGS49

There was terrible anti-German propaganda. Way fiercer than during WWII. But fact is that German militarism* did not cause WWI. In fact, Germany´s leading role in technology, science and economy posed a grave threat to the established European powers.

*A myth. Doesn´t exist. A pan-German military started in 1870. It had to catch up. It could defeat France without, though.

 

[Unkotare]

Sounds like anti-German propaganda.

A good overview offers "Der erste Weltkrieg" by Hans Herzfeld.

Fuck the Keiser and the Nazis who rose up after him. Fuck ISIS and Assad too!

Thanks for the info on the series, DGS49

There was terrible anti-German propaganda. Way fiercer than during WWII. But fact is that German militarism* did not cause WWI. In fact, Germany´s leading role in technology, science and economy posed a grave threat to the established European powers.

*A myth. Doesn´t exist. A pan-German military started in 1870. It had to catch up. It could defeat France without, though.

Sounds like anti-German propaganda.

A good overview offers "Der erste Weltkrieg" by Hans Herzfeld.

Fuck the Keiser and the Nazis who rose up after him. Fuck ISIS and Assad too!

Thanks for the info on the series, DGS49

There was terrible anti-German propaganda. Way fiercer than during WWII. ....

No. Propaganda reached a new level during WWII.

 

[Bleipriester]

Sounds like anti-German propaganda.

A good overview offers "Der erste Weltkrieg" by Hans Herzfeld.

Fuck the Keiser and the Nazis who rose up after him. Fuck ISIS and Assad too!

Thanks for the info on the series, DGS49

There was terrible anti-German propaganda. Way fiercer than during WWII. But fact is that German militarism* did not cause WWI. In fact, Germany´s leading role in technology, science and economy posed a grave threat to the established European powers.

*A myth. Doesn´t exist. A pan-German military started in 1870. It had to catch up. It could defeat France without, though.

Sounds like anti-German propaganda.

A good overview offers "Der erste Weltkrieg" by Hans Herzfeld.

Fuck the Keiser and the Nazis who rose up after him. Fuck ISIS and Assad too!

Thanks for the info on the series, DGS49

There was terrible anti-German propaganda. Way fiercer than during WWII. ....

No. Propaganda reached a new level during WWII.

I remember the ghost hitler who is your co-driver when you don´t join the military.

 

[Pop23]

...you MUST look at the PBS series on WWI. It was absolutely outstanding and astounding. I thought I was reasonably well informed about WWI, but I was as wrong as I could be. Like Sergeant Schultz, "I knew NOTHING!"

Covers the buildup to the war, President Wilson's evolving positions, the incredible brutality of the Germans, mainly, and the war itself, the birth of the U.S. as a "world superpower," the devastation of the Influenza ("flu") epidemic that killed millions, and on and on.

BTW, not suitable for children. It exposes the ugly underside of "American Values," war, Woodrow Wilson, and the political parties.

Six hours of outstanding television. Not pretty.

Good to know, will have to wait for it on YouTube or sump'm. This sort of programming is about the only argument there was for keeping TV at all. But it wasn't enough.

PBS has an app (at least on roku). All three episodes are on it.

Outstanding show