ICE Forcibly Removes Woman Waiting for Emergency Brain Surgery Form Hospital

[Claudette]

Sure If you and idiots like you want to pay for that treatment.

She's an illegal alien who should be booted back to her own country. Let them pay for her treatment.

Ah, the compassionate conservative...

Compassionate my ass. I'm not interested in bankrolling some skag from another country who came her for free health care.

Take you're bleeding heart and shove it up your stupid ass.

Listen here you silly slapper, most immigrants don't come for the 'free' health care. They come for a better life. They work hard for a pittance because fat, lazy morons like you can't be fucked doing menial jobs. This is why you're a fake news acolyte and a Deplorable. You speak in cliches and stereotypes. You have no idea of her story or what she is about. You just lump her into a basket and keep her there. God, I wish there was an IQ test before people were allowed to vote. It would stop morons like you deciding the fate on intelligent, compassionate people....

Oh an I'm sure they never go to the hospital for that free health care and I'm also sure they turn down all benefits they can get via the taxpayers of America.

I wish there were an IQ test for voting as well as I'm sure a bleeding heart idiot like you wouldn't pass the test. It would stop bleeding heart lets give everything to everybody taxpayer funded morons like you from giving away someone else's money. Oh and thanks for volunteering all Americans to take care of everyone you fucking moron.

Intelligent, Compassionate?? How bout bleeding heart idiot?

 

[JoeB131]

I think people should be responsible for themselves.

I'm not interested in bankrolling someones life for them. If you are then pay away. I'm sure they will take every dime you want to contribute.

But that's the point you get. We already have socalized medicine. Few people are paying for the health care they get. they are either getting money from other people through government or insurance programs, or they are paying into those programs if they stay healthy.

The problem that you wingnuts don't get is that we have a system where we spend twice as much as a European Social Democracy, and have much worse results because a lot of that money ends up paying Big Insurance, Big Pharma and Big Health Care.

 

[owebo]

I think people should be responsible for themselves.

I'm not interested in bankrolling someones life for them. If you are then pay away. I'm sure they will take every dime you want to contribute.

But that's the point you get. We already have socalized medicine. Few people are paying for the health care they get. they are either getting money from other people through government or insurance programs, or they are paying into those programs if they stay healthy.

The problem that you wingnuts don't get is that we have a system where we spend twice as much as a European Social Democracy, and have much worse results because a lot of that money ends up paying Big Insurance, Big Pharma and Big Health Care.

We are ending your socialism in our healthcare.....do try to keep up....

 

[JoeB131]

The hospital was going to releases her. She had an appointment the next week with a specialist. No reason to keep her hospitalized and no emergency surgery imminent. It's likely that the specialist would decide the following week whether surgery was an option.

The lawyers lied to make Trump look mean. It sucks that the woman has health issues but hospitals don't release anyone who needs emergency surgery, which there aren't waiting lists for unless a bunch of people need surgery all at once and they are forced to choose the worst go first. Otherwise, emergency surgery is done when needed. Period.

The whole article is a lame attempt to make it sound like the Trump administration is going to grab people right out of the operating room and put them in jail.

Huge fail. The article is yet another example of fake news that is designed to paint a phony picture.

Actually, what made Trump look mean was someone in the ICE thought arresting THIS woman was a good idea. While she was in the hospital.

Now, if they followed her home and picked her up, maybe not as much of a problem, but yanking someone out of her sick bed and putting her in restraints, not so much.

 

[JoeB131]

The libs love to claim that all illegals are here for a better life. What they don't admit is that often times they find a better life by ruining a citizen's life by either stealing their SSN or their whole identity. Drug dealers want a better life, which means making big bucks. Human traffickers want a better life by kidnapping and forcing young women into prostitution. Criminals want a better life by having a new pool of victims and sanctuary cities to hide in.

This woman wasn't doing any of those things.

Maybe we should blame all white people for the next racist mass shooting.

Some jobs that illegals hold used to pay more competitive wages.

no, they don't. Americans, even the poorest Americans, don't want to do them, that's the problem. The notion that you are going to get them welfare people out to pick the lettuce is just silly.

 

[Muhammed]

From the link:

"The agency said in a statement Thursday, “During her stay at the hospital, ICE ensured that she was able to speak to her family and to her attorney by phone. Like all detainees in our care, Ms. Beltran will continue to have access to 24 hour emergency medical care and to any required specialized treatment at an outside facility.’’ The statement also said that a doctor had determined she was stable enough to be discharged and that she will be seen again by a medical specialist next week."


Most of the statements in the article come from her legal team, whose job it is to make ICE look bad.

The only statement given by the hospital seems to contradict the lawyers' statements.

Looks like the hospital already planned to discharge her pending an appointment the following week with a specialist. Any surgery would be scheduled after that appointment.

The actions of ICE does not really make sense. Why would they remove a woman diagnosed with a brain tumor already scheduled for surgery in 3 days to put her in detention? Brain surgery is not a cheap operation, $50,000 to $150,000 and if complications develop, the sky is limit and ICE could be stuck with the costs. And if the woman dies in detention, they're going to be facing one hell of a lawsuit. The sensible thing to do is let the woman have the surgery and then deport her.

BTW when the hospital says a patient is stable it means their condition is not worsening and they can be transported. It does not mean they don't need further care. My grandfather left the emergency room in stable condition and was dead in 48 hours.

She can have her operation in Mexico.

 

[keepitreal]

The hospital was going to releases her. She had an appointment the next week with a specialist. No reason to keep her hospitalized and no emergency surgery imminent. It's likely that the specialist would decide the following week whether surgery was an option.

The lawyers lied to make Trump look mean. It sucks that the woman has health issues but hospitals don't release anyone who needs emergency surgery, which there aren't waiting lists for unless a bunch of people need surgery all at once and they are forced to choose the worst go first. Otherwise, emergency surgery is done when needed. Period.

The whole article is a lame attempt to make it sound like the Trump administration is going to grab people right out of the operating room and put them in jail.

Huge fail. The article is yet another example of fake news that is designed to paint a phony picture.

Actually, what made Trump look mean was someone in the ICE thought arresting THIS woman was a good idea. While she was in the hospital.

Now, if they followed her home and picked her up, maybe not as much of a problem, but yanking someone out of her sick bed and putting her in restraints, not so much.

Actually, what made Trump look mean was someone in the ICE thought arresting THIS woman was a good idea. While she was in the hospital.

Now, if they followed her home and picked her up, maybe not as much of a problem, but yanking someone out of her sick bed and putting her in restraints, not so much.

And, obviously, the hospital choose to alert ICE
and rid themselves from the burden of her medical expenses.

I'm sure more hospitals will follow suit
now that laws are being enforced.

Obamacare cut hospital funding
based on the assumption that more people insured
meant less money the hospitals were on the hook for

Didn't work out that way at all

She doesn't legally belong in this country
let alone, belong in a hospital here, for her medical care

 

[FA_Q2]

No-one can claim they didn't see this coming. Trump gave fair warning.

And this has what to do with Trump? Your are right though, we should have seen this coming as it is EXACTLY what should have and has always been done when someone that is incarcerated is discharged from a hospital by a doctor.

 

[FA_Q2]

The hospital was going to releases her. She had an appointment the next week with a specialist. No reason to keep her hospitalized and no emergency surgery imminent. It's likely that the specialist would decide the following week whether surgery was an option.

The lawyers lied to make Trump look mean. It sucks that the woman has health issues but hospitals don't release anyone who needs emergency surgery, which there aren't waiting lists for unless a bunch of people need surgery all at once and they are forced to choose the worst go first. Otherwise, emergency surgery is done when needed. Period.

The whole article is a lame attempt to make it sound like the Trump administration is going to grab people right out of the operating room and put them in jail.

Huge fail. The article is yet another example of fake news that is designed to paint a phony picture.

Actually, what made Trump look mean was someone in the ICE thought arresting THIS woman was a good idea. While she was in the hospital.

Now, if they followed her home and picked her up, maybe not as much of a problem, but yanking someone out of her sick bed and putting her in restraints, not so much.

Didn't bother actually looking at any of the facts here, did you?

 

[FA_Q2]

The hospital was going to releases her. She had an appointment the next week with a specialist. No reason to keep her hospitalized and no emergency surgery imminent. It's likely that the specialist would decide the following week whether surgery was an option.

The lawyers lied to make Trump look mean. It sucks that the woman has health issues but hospitals don't release anyone who needs emergency surgery, which there aren't waiting lists for unless a bunch of people need surgery all at once and they are forced to choose the worst go first. Otherwise, emergency surgery is done when needed. Period.

The whole article is a lame attempt to make it sound like the Trump administration is going to grab people right out of the operating room and put them in jail.

Huge fail. The article is yet another example of fake news that is designed to paint a phony picture.

Actually, what made Trump look mean was someone in the ICE thought arresting THIS woman was a good idea. While she was in the hospital.

Now, if they followed her home and picked her up, maybe not as much of a problem, but yanking someone out of her sick bed and putting her in restraints, not so much.

Actually, what made Trump look mean was someone in the ICE thought arresting THIS woman was a good idea. While she was in the hospital.

Now, if they followed her home and picked her up, maybe not as much of a problem, but yanking someone out of her sick bed and putting her in restraints, not so much.

And, obviously, the hospital choose to alert ICE
and rid themselves from the burden of her medical expenses.

I'm sure more hospitals will follow suit
now that laws are being enforced.

Obamacare cut hospital funding
based on the assumption that more people insured
meant less money the hospitals were on the hook for

Didn't work out that way at all

She doesn't legally belong in this country
let alone, belong in a hospital here, for her medical care

Seems you did not either.

The hospital never informed ICE. ICE brought her there in the first place.

 

[keepitreal]

The hospital was going to releases her. She had an appointment the next week with a specialist. No reason to keep her hospitalized and no emergency surgery imminent. It's likely that the specialist would decide the following week whether surgery was an option.

The lawyers lied to make Trump look mean. It sucks that the woman has health issues but hospitals don't release anyone who needs emergency surgery, which there aren't waiting lists for unless a bunch of people need surgery all at once and they are forced to choose the worst go first. Otherwise, emergency surgery is done when needed. Period.

The whole article is a lame attempt to make it sound like the Trump administration is going to grab people right out of the operating room and put them in jail.

Huge fail. The article is yet another example of fake news that is designed to paint a phony picture.

Actually, what made Trump look mean was someone in the ICE thought arresting THIS woman was a good idea. While she was in the hospital.

Now, if they followed her home and picked her up, maybe not as much of a problem, but yanking someone out of her sick bed and putting her in restraints, not so much.

Didn't bother actually looking at any of the facts here, did you?

Didn't bother actually looking at any of the facts here, did you?

The fact is, she doesn't legally belong here

 

[keepitreal]

The hospital was going to releases her. She had an appointment the next week with a specialist. No reason to keep her hospitalized and no emergency surgery imminent. It's likely that the specialist would decide the following week whether surgery was an option.

The lawyers lied to make Trump look mean. It sucks that the woman has health issues but hospitals don't release anyone who needs emergency surgery, which there aren't waiting lists for unless a bunch of people need surgery all at once and they are forced to choose the worst go first. Otherwise, emergency surgery is done when needed. Period.

The whole article is a lame attempt to make it sound like the Trump administration is going to grab people right out of the operating room and put them in jail.

Huge fail. The article is yet another example of fake news that is designed to paint a phony picture.

Actually, what made Trump look mean was someone in the ICE thought arresting THIS woman was a good idea. While she was in the hospital.

Now, if they followed her home and picked her up, maybe not as much of a problem, but yanking someone out of her sick bed and putting her in restraints, not so much.

Actually, what made Trump look mean was someone in the ICE thought arresting THIS woman was a good idea. While she was in the hospital.

Now, if they followed her home and picked her up, maybe not as much of a problem, but yanking someone out of her sick bed and putting her in restraints, not so much.

And, obviously, the hospital choose to alert ICE
and rid themselves from the burden of her medical expenses.

I'm sure more hospitals will follow suit
now that laws are being enforced.

Obamacare cut hospital funding
based on the assumption that more people insured
meant less money the hospitals were on the hook for

Didn't work out that way at all

She doesn't legally belong in this country
let alone, belong in a hospital here, for her medical care

Seems you did not either.

The hospital never informed ICE. ICE brought her there in the first place.

Seems you did not either.

The hospital never informed ICE. ICE brought her there in the first place

No, I did not

My bad, I stand corrected

 

[Dr Grump]

[QU]

Oh an I'm sure they never go to the hospital for that free health care and I'm also sure they turn down all benefits they can get via the taxpayers of America.

I wish there were an IQ test for voting as well as I'm sure a bleeding heart idiot like you wouldn't pass the test. It would stop bleeding heart lets give everything to everybody taxpayer funded morons like you from giving away someone else's money. Oh and thanks for volunteering all Americans to take care of everyone you fucking moron.

Intelligent, Compassionate?? How bout bleeding heart idiot?

Of course they go to hospital when they need to you fucking moron. My point - which totally passed you by because you're a fucking idiot - is that is not the reason they go to the US. And BTW, most of them work at these menial jobs and nearly all of their income is disposable. IOW, their money goes straight back into the economy via them having to live. They spend their money on rent, and utilities and food. You have this simplistic, moronic view that illegals pop over to the US just to visit the hospital. Why? Because you're a simplistic, moronic deplorable with the IQ of an amoeba.

 

[Claudette]

[QU]

Oh an I'm sure they never go to the hospital for that free health care and I'm also sure they turn down all benefits they can get via the taxpayers of America.

I wish there were an IQ test for voting as well as I'm sure a bleeding heart idiot like you wouldn't pass the test. It would stop bleeding heart lets give everything to everybody taxpayer funded morons like you from giving away someone else's money. Oh and thanks for volunteering all Americans to take care of everyone you fucking moron.

Intelligent, Compassionate?? How bout bleeding heart idiot?

Of course they go to hospital when they need to you fucking moron. My point - which totally passed you by because you're a fucking idiot - is that is not the reason they go to the US. And BTW, most of them work at these menial jobs and nearly all of their income is disposable. IOW, their money goes straight back into the economy via them having to live. They spend their money on rent, and utilities and food. You have this simplistic, moronic view that illegals pop over to the US just to visit the hospital. Why? Because you're a simplistic, moronic deplorable with the IQ of an amoeba.

Speaking of IQ's you sure show yours.

The word Illegal doesn't mean a thing to a fucking moron like you.

These people shouldn't be here at all and they all need to go back to wherever they came from.

Amoeba brain. Or lack thereof.

 

[Dr Grump]

Speaking of IQ's you sure show yours.

The word Illegal doesn't mean a thing to a fucking moron like you.

These people shouldn't be here at all and they all need to go back to wherever they came from.

Amoeba brain. Or lack thereof.

Oh, sorry. I didn't realise you lived in an ideal world. What's it like with your picket fence, 2.3 kids and a wife who doesn't have to work.

You have 11 million illegals. Most of them work (menial jobs for sure). Why is that?

 

[JoeB131]

Didn't bother actually looking at any of the facts here, did you?

Sure I did. DId you?

 

[FA_Q2]

Didn't bother actually looking at any of the facts here, did you?

Sure I did. DId you?

Yes. If you had bothered to look at the facts you would not have made the silly comment that ICE should have picked her up at home. You would also not have made the comment that what made Trump look mean was they arrested her - they did not. She was actually arrested under the Obama administration.

 

[JoeB131]

The fact is, she doesn't legally belong here

So let's go the whole way. Let's not throw them out of the country, let's start harvesting them for transplant organs, right?

I mean, if they have no 'rights'. (Actually, they do, but never mind, let's go full redneck here.)

Dude, hating on undocumented workers isn't going to fix what makes your life unhappy.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes. If you had bothered to look at the facts you would not have made the silly comment that ICE should have picked her up at home. You would also not have made the comment that what made Trump look mean was they arrested her - they did not. She was actually arrested under the Obama administration.

Okay, whatever you say guy... you know, you can't keep blaming Obama for Trumps fuckups....

 

[FA_Q2]

Yes. If you had bothered to look at the facts you would not have made the silly comment that ICE should have picked her up at home. You would also not have made the comment that what made Trump look mean was they arrested her - they did not. She was actually arrested under the Obama administration.

Okay, whatever you say guy... you know, you can't keep blaming Obama for Trumps fuckups....

Didn't blame Obama for anything. You are the one demanding that Trump has something to do with her arrest - in 2015. You really have to start reading some facts before you regurgitate the same talking points.

I also never said there was any fuckup here - everything went the way it is supposed to in this situation. The article tries to skirt the truth to sensationalize a very standard practice but it is obvious in its failings.