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[Max Power]

*sigh*

Notice that the adjective, "republican ", employs a lowercase "r".

Yet when used to describe The Republican party, it employs an uppercase 'R' because it is a proper noun.

Nice attempt at being smart, though. Maybe you'll do better next time.

Not in the "what kind of" sense - only the "which". A Democrat, therefore, belongs to the Democrat Party.

No, a Democrat belongs to the Democratic party. You can look it up if you wish.
The Democratic Party

You'll find, "democratic", but you won't find, "Democratic". Go ahead and coyly aver that you're not a supporter of the democratic party (yeah, right), but don't try to confer upon that term the status of "proper adjective".

Yes, and "The Democratic Party" is a proper noun. I know you must be confused. Click on that link above. You are correct if you were referring to a member of a democratic party, that the 'd' would be lowercase, however for this country, The Democratic Party is a proper noun.

English is a tricky language (conveniently so, for those who would twist and pervert it for their own ends - typically liberals), but hang in there. You'll get it.

I'm not the one who's having trouble. You're the one who keeps insisting that people belong to a democrat party, which makes as much sense as people belonging to a republic party.


Bottom Line:
You know you're wrong, quit trying to argue semantics. There is no democrat party.

 

[musicman]

I edited my post for clarity's sake, but you must have posted before seeing it.

As to "The Democratic Party" - that's the name of a WEBSITE, genius.

If the Democrat Party wishes to change its name to the Democratic Party, it should do so. Then, calling it the Democratic Party would be correct. In the meantime, it remains a sly manipulation of language, designed to confer upon a party of liberal socialists a positive connotation it scarcely merits. Calling it what it is is in no way derogatory.

 

[Max Power]

As to "The Democratic Party" - that's the name of a WEBSITE, genius.

Yeah, it's also the name of the party.

For more than 200 years, the Democratic Party has represented ....

(From the website)

It's the Democratic Party, not the Democrat party.
I don't know why you're refusing to admit this.

 

[musicman]

Yeah, it's also the name of the party.


(From the website)

It's the Democratic Party, not the Democrat party.
I don't know why you're refusing to admit this.

All hail this mighty website, the keeper of truth and propriety! I read it here; it MUST be right!

You're simply trying to misuse an adjective. John Kerry is a Democrat (and then some). To WHICH party does he belong? One does not (necessarily) call a member of the Labor Party the Laborious candidate. Early American politicians were not "Whigged-out" representatives. Calling a Democrat a member of the Democratic Party is a deliberate, improper manipulation of language. If they want to change the name of their party to the Democratics, then fine. Personally, I don't think they have the balls; the irony would be too exquisite.

 

[Max Power]

All hail this mighty website, the keeper of truth and propriety! I read it here; it MUST be right!

Well, actually, yes. If you want to know what the name of the Democratic Party is, who better to ask than the Democratic Party.

Where else would you like to look? Go to reference.com, answers.com, wikipedia.com, they will ALL tell you that it's the Democratic Party, not the Democrat party.

 

[Max Power]

If you really want, you can refer to it as the democrat's party, but the democrat party is incorrect, because as we've discussed
democrat = noun

 

[musicman]

If you really want, you can refer to it as the democrat's party, but the democrat party is incorrect, because as we've discussed
democrat = noun

Not to be too picky here, but you actually mean Democrats', don't you? That is, unless you are speaking of that which pertains to one specific Democrat. Then, in the interest of consistency, we would need to say the Republicans' Party, as well. Why be that laborious?

I will concede that the term, "the Democratic Party", is widely used to describe the Democrat Party, or the Democrats' Party, or one particular Democrat's party. This does not make it any less a deliberate, agenda-driven manipulation of the English language. Again - in the interest of consistency - to use the "what kind of" aspect of an adjective to modify, to the same degree, the term, "Republican Party", one would have to say something like, "the Republican, Constitution-defending, Mom and apple pie Party". It's unfair, it's nonsense, and more and more Americans are simply refusing to be a party to it. There's nothing derogatory in the term, "Democrat Party". It's merely an exercise in clarity.

 

[Max Power]

Not to be too picky here, but you actually mean Democrats', don't you? That is, unless you are speaking of that which pertains to one specific Democrat. Then, in the interest of consistency, we would need to say the Republicans' Party, as well. Why be that laborious?

Well, either/or. You could refer to Kerry's party as a Democrat's party, or you could refer to the collective Democrats' party.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue this any more. It's the Democratic party, and we all know that... I don't know why you choose to argue it.

There's nothing derogatory in the term, "Democrat Party". It's merely an exercise in clarity.

I'm not saying that there is, it's just an observation that I've made that only people who refer to the party in a derogatory sense refer to the party as the Democrat party, and your posts add to that observation.

 

[musicman]

Anyway, I'm not going to argue this any more. It's the Democratic party, and we all know that...

It is because...it is? Come on, Max - I gave you more credit than that!

I'm not saying that there is,

Yeah, but...

it's just an observation that I've made that only people who refer to the party in a derogatory sense refer to the party as the Democrat party, and your posts add to that observation.

...that's PRECISELY what you said, and are saying.

 

[Max Power]

Yeah, but...
...that's PRECISELY what you said, and are saying.

I'm not saying that it's inherent in the phrase itself, but rather the usage of the phrase.

So, since you are a perfect example of someone who uses the phrase "Democrat Party," and uses it in a derogatory fashion, I'm simply asking WHY you use it, as opposed to the proper term, "Democratic Party."

However, since you are adamant and refuse to admit that "Democrat Party," is incorrect, I don't get an answer to my question.

 

[Abbey Normal]

Democrats, Schmemocrats. Just call them the Crazy Libs, like I do. It's a bit redundant, but very descriptive of the party of Screamin Dean, Hypocritical Kennedy, Loopy Schumer, Far-out Feinstein, Jesse the Race-baiter Jackson, and Blue-streak Sheehan.

 

[musicman]

I'm not saying that it's inherent in the phrase itself, but rather the usage of the phrase.

It's not derogatory unless someone SAYS it?

So, since you are a perfect example of someone who uses the phrase "Democrat Party," and uses it in a derogatory fashion,

I'd like for you to cite an example of my using the term "Democrat Party" in a derogatory fashion. I certainly may disparage the hopelessly flawed ideology, and have a laugh or two at the expense of its pathetically duped devotees, but there is simply nothing inherently derogatory in refusing to play along with a cynical bastardization of the English language, widely accepted though that practice might be. And, you may have noticed, I'm not alone.

I'm simply asking WHY you use it, as opposed to the proper term, "Democratic Party."

Widespread use does not necessarily indicate propriety, as I've tried to explain. "Democratic Party" is improper usage of an adjective - CONVENIENTLY so, for some.

However, since you are adamant and refuse to admit that "Democrat Party," is incorrect, I don't get an answer to my question.

I'm trying to answer you, Max. Will you HEAR me?

 

[Max Power]

It's not derogatory unless someone SAYS it?

The word negro comes from latin for black.
It's not the word, "negro," that is derogatory, but rather the historic connotation.

Same thing for Democrat party.
Alone, it's just an improper use of the noun, "Democrat," however it seems that people like to use it in a derogatory fashion.

I'd like for you to cite an example of my using the term "Democrat Party" in a derogatory fashion.

I believe you referred to your "Democrat Party" as "the most rabidly intolerant collection of lockstep lunatics"

I certainly may disparage the hopelessly flawed ideology, and have a laugh or two at the expense of its pathetically duped devotees, but there is simply nothing inherently derogatory in refusing to play along with a cynical bastardization of the English language, widely accepted though that practice might be. And, you may have noticed, I'm not alone.

Keep trying to hope that you're not wrong... but you are.

It's not a bastardization of the English language, it's an adjective.

http://www.answers.com/democratic&r=67
dem·o·crat·ic (dĕm'ə-krăt'ĭk) adj.
Of, relating to, or characteristic of the Democratic Party.

 

[Max Power]

http://www.answers.com/democratic+party&r=67

Musicman, go nuts, check for yourself.

Democratic Party.

 

[musicman]

The word negro comes from latin for black.
It's not the word, "negro," that is derogatory, but rather the historic connotation.

I knew it - you ARE a Democrat! So, you're saying that the use of the word "negro" can now only be deemed derogatory, because of its historical connotation??!! Good God - it's the Thought Police!

Same thing for Democrat party.
Alone, it's just an improper use of the noun, "Democrat," however it seems that people like to use it in a derogatory fashion.

That's merely your PERCEPTION, Max. I can't help that.

I believe you referred to your "Democrat Party" as "the most rabidly intolerant collection of lockstep lunatics"

So what? I can't use a sentence whose subject is "The Democrat Party" without that term, then, being inherently derogatory? How about this: "The Democrat Party enjoys widespread support in Hollywood". That is a simple, declarative statement. If you're feeling wounded by that, I suggest you look into your own soul, and find out what's bothering you. Stop trying to make me responsible for your sense of well-being.

It's not a bastardization of the English language, it's an adjective.

And, for like the fifth time, it uses aspects of an adjective in an improper, inconsistent way. The fact that it is widely used doesn't make it any less a bastardization. Refusing to be a party to it - opting instead for accuracy - is in no way inherently disparaging.

 

[Max Power]

I knew it - you ARE a Democrat! So, you're saying that the use of the word "negro" can now only be deemed derogatory, because of its historical connotation??!! Good God - it's the Thought Police!

Ignorance must be bliss. You keep thinking whatever you want.

And, for like the fifth time, it uses aspects of an adjective in an improper, inconsistent way. The fact that it is widely used doesn't make it any less a bastardization. Refusing to be a party to it - opting instead for accuracy - is in no way inherently disparaging.

Actually, it's the prerogative of the Democratic Party to name themselves whatever they wish.
Simply because you refuse to use the proper term doesn't make you special, despite what your parents might have told you.

 

[musicman]

Simply because you refuse to use the proper term doesn't make you special, despite what your parents might have told you.

Dear God - he's finally gone off the deep end!

I'll make you a deal, Max. I'll pretend I'm an uncomprehending idiot, and go along with the Democrat Party's game. I'll call them the Democratic Party.

But, in the interest of consistency of form and usage, you must hereafter refer to my party as the Republican doesn't instinctively blame America for all the world's ills like some DEMOCRATIC parties I know Party.

That way, see, each of us is not only identifying the other's party - we're actually describing it to the other's satisfaction.

 

[dmp]

Dear God - he's finally gone off the deep end!

I'll make you a deal, Max. I'll pretend I'm an uncomprehending idiot, and go along with the Democrat Party's game. I'll call them the Democratic Party.

But, in the interest of consistency of form and usage, you must hereafter refer to my party as the Republican doesn't instinctively blame America for all the world's ills like some DEMOCRATIC parties I know Party.

That way, see, each of us is not only identifying the other's party - we're actually describing it to the other's satisfaction.

Good to see you again, brother!

 

[musicman]

Good to see you again, brother!

Thanks, dmp! It's good to be back!

 

[FreeMarketLover]

1. Why does the Democrat Party always think the best answer to any problem our nation has is more government with socialist policies?
Always is usually a stupid word. JFK reformed alot of FDR's new deal programs and economic stimuli by downsizing the government. Can't think of a much more prominent example of a Democrat than JFK.

2. Why do congressional Democrats run as somewhat conservative, only be the socialist partisans that they are?
Why did Bush run as a compassionate conservative only to show his true colors as a supply side hard liner?

3. Why are Democrats and the liberal press so stunned that President Bush would actually try and accomplish in office what he campaigned on?
Stunned? Stunned and opposed to are quite dissiimilar. I don't hear Wolf Blitzer saying that he is puzzled over Bush's policy moves. Maybe I'm wrong, I usually watch fox news and Deutchewella.

4. Why do Democrats abhor democracy so much, and have such distain for the majority of the voters, unless, of course, they receive a majority of the votes?
But you didn't have distain for liberals when the majority of voters put Clinton in office? I am a democrat. I voted for Bush. Absolutes can only be made in science and religion without sounding like an idiot.

5. Why do Democrats never mention the words freedom and free enterprise in any of their speeches?
Freedom is a complex idea and applications of it are complex. Everyone has their own values associated with freedom. If you listen closely and pay really close attention, I'm sure you will be able to piece together the idea of freedom from their speeches. Remember that freedom is an idea, not just a word.