hjmick
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Bullshit. If anyone is going to make the determination as to whether or not my child needs to incur corporal punishment it will be me. Not some fuckwit school district employee.
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Bullshit. If anyone is going to make the determination as to whether or not my child needs to incur corporal punishment it will be me. Not some fuckwit school district employee.
Bullshit. If anyone is going to make the determination as to whether or not my child needs to incur corporal punishment it will be me. Not some fuckwit school district employee.
[E]vidence clearly suggests that corporal punishment does not effectively teach children how to behave and does not improve their learning. Given the risks it poses, the question is: why would an adult use such a method of discipline at all when there are other methods available? Do the risks outweigh the benefits of immediate compliance? If children can be effectively disciplined and learn in the process, what then is the justification for using physical punishment to control them?
Spare the rod and teach the child | Victoria Talwar and Stephanie M Carlson | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Another problem with corporal punishment is it reinforces the legitimacy of violence as a means to resolve conflict.
Bullshit. If anyone is going to make the determination as to whether or not my child needs to incur corporal punishment it will be me. Not some fuckwit school district employee.
I can agree with that.
My point was not so much that the school should do it, but parents should not have to fear the government pounding down your door if you should consider disciplining your children.
Immie
[E]vidence clearly suggests that corporal punishment does not effectively teach children how to behave and does not improve their learning. Given the risks it poses, the question is: why would an adult use such a method of discipline at all when there are other methods available? Do the risks outweigh the benefits of immediate compliance? If children can be effectively disciplined and learn in the process, what then is the justification for using physical punishment to control them?
Spare the rod and teach the child | Victoria Talwar and Stephanie M Carlson | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Another problem with corporal punishment is it reinforces the legitimacy of violence as a means to resolve conflict.
how far down the childless faculty lounge code phrase lefty bible did you have to dig for for that bullshit?
I don't think it works. Just adds calluses to both sides of the relationship.
Now what I did is I had the kids do push ups. It built them up. And half the time I was right there with them showing I wasn't going to have them do anything I couldn't do too. By the time they were in 4th grade they could do 40.
And they hated it. And they tried to avoid it.
I had a cousin that got disciplined with coat hangers. He wound up in Juvie early, which he prefered. And from there it was a step to a long stretch in Maximim security
Red Letter Day.Should Your Child Be Spanked at School?
It is one of the most controversial methods of child discipline, but spanking in school -- usually with a wooden or fiberglass paddle -- is still allowed by law in 19 states. The practice is most prevalent in the Midwest and South. According to a report from the Juvenile Information Exchange, more than 28,500 students in Georgia were spanked in 2008, mostly in rural counties.
Should Your Child Be Spanked at School? - Yahoo!
I have no problem as long as the child needs it, it's handed out fairly and as long as another teacher is there as a witness.
yeah.... you try.That was pretty much a normal thing when I was going to school. That, and the other spanking you got at home for getting a spanking in school. It didn't seem to stunt my growth or anything.
We evolve. You don't smack kids around, you work with them.
One of the biggest surprises I ever had was from a Somali immigrant mother who came to me with her son who had recieved 15 write-ups (5 for biting other students) and said "He trouble? You beat him!"That's a noble attitude, Sarah. Unfortunately the "work with them" approach simply does not work with some kids because the only thing they respond to is manifest anger in the form of administered pain.That was pretty much a normal thing when I was going to school. That, and the other spanking you got at home for getting a spanking in school. It didn't seem to stunt my growth or anything.
We evolve. You don't smack kids around, you work with them.
According to my grandchildren the situation in today's Catholic schools is not the same as it was in my time. But back in the 40s and 50s (as I vividly recall) the Franciscan brothers and Carmelite nuns wouldn't hesitate to use a cat-o-nine-tails or a blackboard pointer on one who stepped out of line -- and if need be a few of those Franciscans would drag you into the gym and "beat the devil out of you."
But the bottom line is St. Francis Xavier School and Academy won top academic honors in New York State year after year and St. Francis grads were invited to some of the Nation's best universities.
Should Your Child Be Spanked at School?.
I suspect they are part of the 80% that won't need it then, if you're pre-empting it and putting the fear of you into them if they don't obey the teacher, faculty or bus driver.Should Your Child Be Spanked at School?.
Hell no. I carried them for 9 months (all the while they're stomping on my liver) and then endured hell on earth as I turned inside-out to give birth to the little hellions. I earned the right to be the sole beater of my children. No one else is gonna take that away from me, dammit.
I suspect they are part of the 80% that won't need it then, if you're pre-empting it and putting the fear of you into them if they don't obey the teacher, faculty or bus driver.
My kinda parent then. Nothing better than to get the kids in line by saying "do I need to talk to your mom and dad?" and watching them go "NO!!!! I'll be good! PLEASE DON'T!!"
I know I was that way when I was a kid. Last thing in the world, I wanted was for my parents to mete out punishment.
kinda fucks the works up too, don't it?I suspect they are part of the 80% that won't need it then, if you're pre-empting it and putting the fear of you into them if they don't obey the teacher, faculty or bus driver.
My kinda parent then. Nothing better than to get the kids in line by saying "do I need to talk to your mom and dad?" and watching them go "NO!!!! I'll be good! PLEASE DON'T!!"
I know I was that way when I was a kid. Last thing in the world, I wanted was for my parents to mete out punishment.
Well I think this is one of the big problems. When I was a kid if I got in trouble at school my parents sided with the school. Now parents tend to side with their child so when you have a kid that needs discipline you are frequently dealing with a parent that needs discipline too.
kinda fucks the works up too, don't it?
Little timmy is a total angel. He'd never punch out 4 people during math class because he got the question wrong. I don't care what that videotape says. it's a dirty filthy lie on film and you should be arrested for abusing him so badly. There was no cause to taser him as he was eating the janitor's arm. Dirty rotten filthy lies concocted by crazed video technicians to slander my darling little child. He could never do those things.
That was pretty much a normal thing when I was going to school. That, and the other spanking you got at home for getting a spanking in school. It didn't seem to stunt my growth or anything.
We evolve. You don't smack kids around, you work with them.
Parents who "work with" their kids, raise rotten little brats who push them around. My son misbehaves and I crack his ass the other way. Guess what. It's not something I have to do all that often and he rarely gets in trouble at school.