I Really Don't Like Pat Buchanan, But This Is Ridiculous

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    What happened to Pat B. is described below, but this kind of 'silencing' on campus appears to be escalating. Daniel Pipes has been invited then shouted down by those that disagree. In the past few weeks the following incident occured, along with pie hittings to John McCain and Bill Kristol. None of these folks have prosecuted, but I think they should:

    http://www.flynnfiles.com/archives/...ehind_the_campus_assault_on_pat_buchanan.html


     
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    I guess I'm not the only one who thinks these should be prosecuted:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=1968

     
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    It's definitely inappropriate behavior that does their positions no good. But nobody needs to be prosecuted for a harmless prank.
     
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    Hmmm...

    Not so sure about your police work there, menewa.

    As an initial matter, I love free speech. I love dirty words, I love political incorrectness (obviously), I love pranks, I love political jokes, I love protests, sit-downs, marches, you name it. I think the T-shirt about Tom DeLay on DRUDGE is hilarious. This is America. Even throwing blood on fur-wearing women, while criminal, at least makes a point.

    But the physical attacks on conservative speakers don't classify as any of the above. The only purpose that serves is to SILENCE SPEECH. These left-wing babies aren't saying anything sophisticated or making persuasive counter-points by throwing food at conservatives: they're engaging in pointless juvenile behavior that doesn't advance political debate. I would say the same if right-wingers were throwing food at liberals (though this probably won't ever happen). If these jerks are so clever, why don't they save it for Q&A jousting afterward? Or give their own speech? Answer: because the left doesn't have anything to say. They don't have facts. They don't have logic. They don't have reason. Just whining, like babies.

    They also interfere with MY RIGHT TO HEAR THE SPEAKER. The left thinks they have the "right" not to hear opinions they find "racist" or politically incorrect. And they think they have the "right" to enforce this "right" on behalf of us all. Really, the First Amendment guarantees the right to speak and the right to assemble, which, if not protected by government, should be illegal.

    So, in our society, we should prosecute them for assault.

    Or, here's an idea. Catch the kid and strap him to a chair. Put him in front of a microphone in front of the whole audience. Then allow him one minute for his "position." Then allow the speaker to respond. Then film it. Then force the DNC to air that footage with every ad it funds!
     
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    While I disagree with Pat Buchanans isolationists and relgious views
    I appreciate his candor and inside when he analyzes current
    public policies.

    With so much spin these days it is refreshing having someone
    talk straight and share his oppinion even if unpopular.

    If he should come around my area I will attend and voice
    my support for his right to free speech.

    I wish we had more people like him that fight an open battle
    about their political oppinion.
     
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    Come on, Menewa. These are not harmless pranks, but assault, plain and simple, and, as such, should be prosecuted. I am sure Pat Buchanan's expensive suit was ruined by the salad dressing, so I don't think he would agree with your assessment that this was a harmless prank. (And if it had happened to you, I'll bet you wouldn't think it was a harmless prank either.)

    As has been mentioned, the aim of these attackers is to deny conservative speakers their right to speak in an open and free society, and they are successful when the speaker cuts his speech short and leaves the auditorium, like Buchanan did. This is a a sad commentary on the campus environment that has been created by the liberal administrators and faculty. Guess conservative speakers are going to have to start wearing suits of armor for their speeches on campus. Maybe that would get the attention this whole matter deserves.
     
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    While no one was "hurt" in this affair, I think it shows how deeply our civilization has eroded. When people have no respect or "manners," their actions can only become more brutal and uncivilized. The selfishness that is the undercurrent of this situation is flabbergasting to me.
     
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    This is a great post Kathianne, this has been escalating over the last few weeks and yet again the mainstream press has done nothing to address it. If anything speaks to the goal of so called "free speechers" it's occurances like this. Mr Buchannan sums it up well.
     
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    Menewa,

    So you would find nothing wrong with someone throwing a urine soked pie in your face when they disagree with your point of view?

    How about someone firing a gun into your office when they find what you believe offensive?

    You must be the most tolerant person in the country, I'm not sure whether to be impressed at your commitment to taking "free speech" to the ultimate or to think that you have a few screws loose to think that such things are "harmless pranks."

    Destruction of personal property or physical attacks are not free speech, neither is tearing down or destroying the signs and/or posters of people that you don't want to hear speak if the signs are posted in designated areas. Show up at these speakers meetings, shout and yell and ask important questions. I am in no way defending Pat Buchanan, actually I find some of his opinions repugnant and would likely be one of the ones shouting questions at him if he had ever come to my campus....but I would not stoop to throwing things at him, harming him and/or defacing his signs and then try to hide under an incorrect notion of free speech.

    I agree with William Joyce entirely. These types of protest are not about free speech, but rather, and far more frightening about SILENCING free speech. They are about getting anyone who doesn't "see it my way" to shut up and slink away in fear of being attacked (either by salad dressing or a gun fired into your office window)...and attempting to forever silence the free expression of ideas because you don't like them should not be something we support in this country.

    How about someone teaching these kids to engage meaningfully in debate with ideas they feel are wrong? Stage a counter presenter...respectfully invite Pat Buchanan to debate his views with another speaker or even a student representitive...make the most of his question and answer session and RESPECTFULLY ask questions that will make him sweat!!!

    By hurling salad dressing all these people did was make themselves look childish...and hurt free speech...way to go...what a harmless prank.
     
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