I like being white....

Pride is an emotion that should be reserved for personal accomplishments and not for winning a birthing lottery.
Does that make gay pride illegitimate?
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The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant, race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant, race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what cave-dwellers post when they can't actually find any 'lies' to back up the slur:

"...you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts,..."


Magically, his post became a boomerang.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."
[/QUOTE
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you do.

You were described as exactly what you are, and deserved it.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", when I made NO reference about your race, which was obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?


"You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part."


Was this guy race-baiting, whatever that means?


“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” ― Jesse Jackson
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......



The ‘funny’ emoticon appears to mean ‘That hurt…I wish I had a way to dispute it.”
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......

You're obviously a raving nut. I have made no comments on any of what your disjointed rambling is about in this thread.

I simply gave you some truth about your using Muhammad Ali's statement from the 1970's, which sent you off the rails.

You flat out lied about what I actually stated.

And you know it.



Take your antidepressants, you need an extra dose.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?


"You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part."


Was this guy race-baiting, whatever that means?


“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” ― Jesse Jackson

What does Jesse Jackson have to do with you being a race baiter, and stating that someone you don't even know is a "disappointment to their race"?
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......

You're obviously a raving nut. I have made no comments on any of what your disjointed rambling is about in this thread.

I simply gave you some truth about your using Muhammad Ali's statement from the 1970's, which sent you off the rails.

You flat out lied about what I actually stated.

And you know it.



Take your antidepressants, you need an extra dose.



"You flat out lied about what I actually stated."


Yet you are unable to post any such lie......because you are real scum.



You learned two very valuable lessons in this exchange:

I never lie.

and...

I'm never wrong.


Now get lost.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......



The ‘funny’ emoticon appears to mean ‘That hurt…I wish I had a way to dispute it.”

What it means in your case is that there are some who should only be humored, laughed at seen as a source of entertainment.

Kind of like a cartoon character.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......



The ‘funny’ emoticon appears to mean ‘That hurt…I wish I had a way to dispute it.”

What it means in your case is that there are some who should only be humored, laughed at seen as a source of entertainment.

Kind of like a cartoon character.



I told you to get lost.

When you are ready to admit I never lie, and apologize for claiming such about a paragon of virtue such as myself......and you learn to speak appropriately to your betters,..... you may return.


Until then....slink away and scurry back under the rock.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......

You're obviously a raving nut. I have made no comments on any of what your disjointed rambling is about in this thread.

I simply gave you some truth about your using Muhammad Ali's statement from the 1970's, which sent you off the rails.

You flat out lied about what I actually stated.

And you know it.



Take your antidepressants, you need an extra dose.



"You flat out lied about what I actually stated."


Yet you are unable to post any such lie......because you are real scum.



You learned two very valuable lessons in this exchange:

I never lie.

and...

I'm never wrong.


Now get lost.

The very fact that you quoted Muhammad Ali without telling the whole story behind his comment, and how his perception changed over time was dishonest on your part.
The fact misrepresented my comment on your statement was in itself a lie, which made you wrong.

So yes, you have lied and you have been wrong throughout this thread.

To even state that you "are never wrong", makes you a dishonest and misinformed, race baiting troll.

Now, YOU may get lost.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......

You're obviously a raving nut. I have made no comments on any of what your disjointed rambling is about in this thread.

I simply gave you some truth about your using Muhammad Ali's statement from the 1970's, which sent you off the rails.

You flat out lied about what I actually stated.

And you know it.



Take your antidepressants, you need an extra dose.



"You flat out lied about what I actually stated."


Yet you are unable to post any such lie......because you are real scum.



You learned two very valuable lessons in this exchange:

I never lie.

and...

I'm never wrong.


Now get lost.

The very fact that you quoted Muhammad Ali without telling the story behind is comment, and how his perception changed over time was dishonest on your part.
The fact misrepresented my comment on your statement was in itself a lie. Which made you wrong. So yes, you have lied and you have been wrong throughout this thread, which makes you a dishonest and misinformed race baiter.

Now, YOU may get lost.



Dishonesty must be punished.

Be gone.

Good. You're finally going away to lie and race bait elsewhere.

Happy Trails!
 
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The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......



The ‘funny’ emoticon appears to mean ‘That hurt…I wish I had a way to dispute it.”

What it means in your case is that there are some who should only be humored, laughed at seen as a source of entertainment.

Kind of like a cartoon character.



I told you to get lost.

When you are ready to admit I never lie, and apologize for claiming such about a paragon of virtue such as myself......and you learn to speak appropriately to your betters,..... you may return.


Until then....slink away and scurry back under the rock.

I do not take orders from you nor anyone else, nor will I apologize for YOUR psychosis. I will state how I see you until I decide that I am finished doing so.

If my telling you the truth hurts your self aggrandizing, tender feelings so badly, you are welcomed to use your ignore feature.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......



The ‘funny’ emoticon appears to mean ‘That hurt…I wish I had a way to dispute it.”

What it means in your case is that there are some who should only be humored, laughed at seen as a source of entertainment.

Kind of like a cartoon character.



I told you to get lost.

When you are ready to admit I never lie, and apologize for claiming such about a paragon of virtue such as myself......and you learn to speak appropriately to your betters,..... you may return.


Until then....slink away and scurry back under the rock.

I do not take orders from you nor anyone else, nor will I apologize for YOUR psychosis. I will state how I see you until I decide that I am finished doing so.

If my telling you the truth hurts your self aggrandizing, tender feelings so badly, you are welcomed to use your ignore feature.



Stop begging.

You lied, you refused to admit my perfection....you must be punished.

Actually, you support one of my suspicions.....I always believed that there is a certain affinity between stupid people, and lying....perhaps a necessity in that precinct.
 
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......



The ‘funny’ emoticon appears to mean ‘That hurt…I wish I had a way to dispute it.”

What it means in your case is that there are some who should only be humored, laughed at seen as a source of entertainment.

Kind of like a cartoon character.



I told you to get lost.

When you are ready to admit I never lie, and apologize for claiming such about a paragon of virtue such as myself......and you learn to speak appropriately to your betters,..... you may return.


Until then....slink away and scurry back under the rock.

I do not take orders from you nor anyone else, nor will I apologize for YOUR psychosis. I will state how I see you until I decide that I am finished doing so.

If my telling you the truth hurts your self aggrandizing, tender feelings so badly, you are welcomed to use your ignore feature.



Stop begging.

You lied, you refused to admit my perfection....you must be punished.

Actually, you support one of my suspicions.....I always believed that there is a certain affinity between stupid people, and lying....perhaps a necessity in that precinct.

ROFL! "Your Perfection"?. Besides being a liar and a race baiting hack, you also have an affliction with delusions of granduer, which is typical in some who actually have low self esteem.

So yes, I "beg" of you.....entertain me some more!

Cut and paste some more quotes, because you lack the mental acuity to post a quote that is actually yours.


I haven't laughed like this, at a buffoon like you, in a long time.
 
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The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

View attachment 468642
I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

What you are "destroying" is any evidence that you are actually a thinking and functioning adult.

Furthermore you were described as exactly what you are:

You are the one who claimed that I am a
The white man has been demolishing the entire fucking world for centuries....and I can't show a little team spirit?

Every non-white race has suffered enormously from White Nationalism.

Jewish People suffered the worst. Most Jewish People are Caucasian but not "white" in the sense of European Culture.

Fortunately, in USA, I have not experienced anti-Semitism.
:rolleyes:
Yeah another uneducated ignoramus parroting the lies of the history revisionist.

Nation with the most slavery in history - India (by far, it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 nations with the most slaves - only one is white. (And it is not America)

Race who killed the most people through racial cleansing and genocide. - Asian and Mongol. (it isn't even close)
In fact, the top 10 races who murdered the most people - only in two instances were they white. Russia, and Germany.

Now you want to talk about what race set modernization in motion? What race elevated the common man the most?
What race, throughout the world, ended slavery?

STFU


The truth has been highjacked to serve an agenda. Most don't realize this but in Africa TODAY the black Africans still sell their peoplr in some areas.
The Africans always used slaves and sold them all over the world for centuries before American was even a place on world map or existed.


Branded slave of today in Africa,where s his 'reparations'

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I am a history buff. It has been my hobby since childhood.

The biggest losers in that war fighting for the Jews were white non Jewish protestants and christians who died in that war,America alone lost 400 ships not counting all the marines,army,ect, we lost.. Russians lost millions in that war too .I'm older now and have actually forgot more history than most people will ever know. Especially 'factaul history' that the socialist haven't changed to suit their own agendas.

All you hear and read is not always factual.


Today: “Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Slavery in contemporary Africa – Wikipedia

All of then run by blacks, it is why IM2 doesn't want to live in any of the black dominated countries of Africa.



Perhaps he feels the same way Muhammad Ali did about Africa.....

...after his return to the United States, Ali reportedly said “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat” after a reporter asked, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?”:

Muhammad Ali did indeed make that remark, and he later deeply regretted that he did, after visiting more and learning more.





Or perhaps because of the immense pressure to conform he was subjected to.


Probably the same reason Colin Powell supported Hussein Obama after all those previous years supporting America.

Or possibly not. I happen to have personally known Ali's biographer, Howard Bingham, who followed his career from the time that he won a gold medal in the Olympics, until he retired from boxing, and he had some very interesting thoughts on Ali's view of Africa.

His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person.

There are many publicly recognized people who have changed over time, based on their personal growth and life experiences.

Nevertheless, "Ali", is not the thread topic, therefore, I do not want to divert it in a different direction.


"...prior to understanding its history,..."

Let's check that history:

Democrat’s Bountiful Gifts To Out Black Brethren

1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



Now....what were you saying about 'understanding history'?????



Let me know if you would like another lesson.

What you can "let me know", is what you are even talking about.

What does all of "this"^, have to do with Muhammad Ali's early and later perceptions of Africa?

I clearly stated that I only interjected regarding him, and was not attempting to redirect the thread.




You claimed Ali came to 'understand' history of the nation.

But no black American who understands same could vote for the party of slavery, segregation and second class citizenship.

And I proved it with this list, none of which you can dispute.
1.Doubling down on their support for slavery and segregation, the Democrat Party blocked every anti-lynching to come to the Senate.

2. Dragging their feet on post-war freedom for their slaves, they imposed poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.

3. The Obama ‘Promise Program’ made it almost impossible to remove thugs and criminals from ghetto schools, to make certain that learning was impeded.

4. Authored gun laws that only law abiding citizens would obey, preventing black citizens in crime ridden neighborhood from protecting themselves.

5. Promoted bogus anti-police hatred, while ignoring some 350,000 blacks killed by lawless blacks. 324,000 U.S. Blacks Killed by Blacks In Only 35 Years – American Free Press

6. In nearing a century of Democrat welfare, blacks remain as the lowest income racial group.

7. Allied with the International Left, the Democrat party makes certain that racial animosity never dies down.

8. The Democrats made and make certain that religion and morality is barred from the schools and from the public arena. “…will America be made better by curbing religion in the name of secularism, of vice versa?” Ben Shapiro


9. The Democrat judicial system is based on the idea that all blacks are felons, so felons must be released from jails. Carter-appointed judge Norma Shapiro “ is one of the worst offenders among that influential cadre of federal judges who have substituted the ACLU's prisoners' rights wish list for the Bill of Rights and have trifled with public safety concerns. …” In 1992, black youths were nine times more likely to be murdered than white youths. Democrats lied, kids died.

10. But wait…..they did manage to ban one single word from common parlance.



There are but two explanations for a black American voting Democrat: ignorance or cowardice.


Ali was right in the quote: “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat
Now you can admit that I am correct.

What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa" after YOU quoted what he stated about Africa, and being "grateful that his grandaddy got on the boat"

What I acknowledge here, is that it is absolutely astounding that a self proclaimed, highly literate individual has such obvious reading comprehension issues.


"What I stated is that Ali came to a more informed understanding of the "history of Africa"
No you didn't.

This is your quote:
"His perspective changed over time, prior to understanding its history, and he eventually became more aware, not due to the media or public image perceptions, but more attributed to his own personal growth and evolution as a person."


In context, it was a statement about his disrespect of America.

If you'd like to apologize for same after the lesson I provided, I'll accept your apology.

No apology is in order. However I will gladly refer you to a credible psychiatric resource for counseling.

"It's history" was clearly me referring to Ali's comment about Africa.

I even attached an article to what I stated, that addressed his comment, and his regret over it years later.

In fact, his comment at the time was him stating that he was grateful to NOT BE in Africa.

You even implied that in your own reference to his statement about Africa.

Or was that one of your "other" personalities posting and using your screename?



What we have learned is that you haven't an honest bone in your body.....you must vote Democrat.


I proved that Cassius Clay was correct when he said he was gratified that his granddaddy got on that boat, or he would not have had this as his birthright:

This is what his granddaddy willed to him:
Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.

You are a disappointment to honesty, to your race, and to the country.

You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency.

The only point that you have proven here is that you are proficient at lying and manipulating facts, especially when proven wrong, and made to look foolish.

You have no idea how I vote, and all that you did was to dig up and post a comment that Muhammad Ali made way back in the 1970's, likely before you were even born, when he was far less informed about the history of the continent of Africa, than he came to be in later years.

I met him personally more than once and spent time over many years with people that actually knew him very well.

My response to your posting his past comment and your lack of understanding of what he actually came to believe in later years had nothing to do with his relationship with America, and only his knowledge of Africa.

Other than that misinformed comment that he made many years ago, you apparently do not know anything about what his beliefs and opinions actually were, and like most extremist, political zealot nutjobs, you highjacked one comment that he made decades ago and made a failed attempt to use it to redefine him as an individual, which makes a very poor statement about you as a person.

SMH at your abject stupidity.



This is what lower-life forms post when I have utterly destroyed their worldview:

"You are an ignorant race baiting slug, who lacks integrity, as well as basic common sense and decency."

The only thing that you are "destroying" is any possible evidence that you are a normal, functioning adult, who is capable of expressing a lucid or rational thought.

My dog reasons far better than you.

You were described as exactly what you are.

You stated that I somehow "dissapointed MY race", which is obviously race baiting on your part.


Must you continuously be spoon fed the meaning of your own words, and what they will get you in return?



Still can't find any lies that you claimed I posted???


Now, when I say that you and your side are liars......I prove it: you never said 'Africa' in your original post, leaving readers to believe you were attacking America.

And as for lies.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie.

And you lied when you claimed I lie.



...and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. Your sort lie about everything.......



The ‘funny’ emoticon appears to mean ‘That hurt…I wish I had a way to dispute it.”

What it means in your case is that there are some who should only be humored, laughed at seen as a source of entertainment.

Kind of like a cartoon character.



I told you to get lost.

When you are ready to admit I never lie, and apologize for claiming such about a paragon of virtue such as myself......and you learn to speak appropriately to your betters,..... you may return.


Until then....slink away and scurry back under the rock.

I do not take orders from you nor anyone else, nor will I apologize for YOUR psychosis. I will state how I see you until I decide that I am finished doing so.

If my telling you the truth hurts your self aggrandizing, tender feelings so badly, you are welcomed to use your ignore feature.



Stop begging.

You lied, you refused to admit my perfection....you must be punished.

Actually, you support one of my suspicions.....I always believed that there is a certain affinity between stupid people, and lying....perhaps a necessity in that precinct.

ROFL! "Your Perfection"?. Besides being a liar and a race baiting hack, you also have an affliction with delusions of granduer, which is typical in some who actually have low self esteem.

So yes, I "beg" of you.....entertain me some more!

Cut and paste some more quotes, because you lack the mental acuity to post a quote that is actually yours.


I haven't laughed like this, at a buffoon like you, in a long time.



Did you find any of those lies you claimed me guilt of???

Not yet???

But....but.....you said I lied!!!!!

Keep lookin'!!!!!!
(This is how we keep an idiot busy.)
 

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