Debate Now I find it amusing, why so much anger against the Wall?

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    People keep talking about the costs, meanwhile it's a drop in the bucket compared to the costs of paying for illegal immigration.

    The real question is, really, why is there SO much rage and emotional triggering by the thought of a wall? To me it's as transparent as can be, some realize the ability to turn America socialist and another global shytehole is impacted greatly if they cannot send mass illegal immigration over the border.

    I can imagine some heated arguments over abortion, religious freedom, even right to bear arms...but a wall? It's a structure designed to protect your border, what in the hell is wrong with this that so many lose it?
     
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    The Soviets (Russian alter-ego's) have already proved that to keep people in or out you need a good wall.
     
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    In the end I don't care if we build a wall or not. I just don't think it's going to do much good. I think we need to increase border security in other more practical areas. Increase manpower, fencing, sensors, etc.
     
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    You build a Wall people cannot climb over (with belongings) uh yes, that will do a lot of good. Why pay for men to stand in the desert 1000 yards apart watching? And the next Obama can't pull the guard off. 50 year old disabled can't climb over and run to American hospitals.

    They don't want it because to allow it is to admit a problem exists. Symbolism......bad neighbors, win for Trump.....whatever. They all lock house and cars, probably fence their yards. But America can't fence a problem spot?

    Slow the drugs. Move enforcement to the gates.
     
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    Some people may be deterred, but anybody desperate enough to get here will. Cubans refugees risk their lives floating through 90 miles of ocean on a wooden raft to get here. Illegals will have the luxury of time and planning.
     
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    There are better ways to spend our money and protect our borders. I think it also gives us a black eye.

    We already have fences, now we need a wall? If the wall doesn't work what then? A Korean-style DMZ? Ask the French how they liked the Maginot Line?
     
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    The same words the Soviet Union used when they built the Berlin Wall.

    It is entirely against the fabric of America.
     
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    Wrong. You don't have a wall on the Canadian border, because it isn't a sieve. If it was, you should put one up. As it were you have some pressing major problems with Canada unrelated but that's neither here nor there.

    Clearly you must understand the difference between a wall designed to keep people out, which the wall on your southern border will accomplish, versus a wall designed to keep people in, oppress and limit movement of their own citizens, as the Berlin Wall achieved.
     
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    No, we don't. Many areas have nothing to limit access.
     
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    There is far more border patrol already along the southern border. You act as if it is undefended and anyone can just walk across. Not by a long shot.
     

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