How would you prepare civilization for climate charge?

[ScienceRocks]

How would you prepare civilization for climate charge? What kind of safe guards???

Improvements to stand up to climate charge

1. I'd sea wall, levies, and raise depending on "what" geography the close to ocean city sit on. Enough for a 15 foot sea level charge.
2. I'd strengthen the energy grid and make micro grids to make sure a "historic" event can't knock it off at once.
3. I'd invest in new tech and idea's to grow food. Always a good idea to improve on what we already have.
4. Put new standards for home construction that's built stronger and more energy efferent.
5. Strengthen walls around our rivers to be able to handle thousand year events every decade or so.


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[justme335]

Promote Nudism?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Promote Nudism?

no

 

[JWBooth]

Uh huh, and who gets forced to pony up the $ to pay for this will-o'-th'-wisp?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Uh huh, and who gets forced to pony up the $ to pay for this will-o'-th'-wisp?

China, India, South Korea Taiwan, Mexico, and Germany thanks you as they kick our asses economically. Infrastructure, tech and science is the life blood of a first world nation.

You fools don't get it. You really think we remain a first world nation with the attitude of the 18th century.

CAN YOU NAME A SINGLE SUCCESSFUL NATION that doesn't invest into these area's?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Even the Maya, Egypt(ancient), Inca and Roman republic put resources and time into bettering their nations against climate charge.

 

[Old Rocks]

Oh my, I can see it now, the Roman "Conservative" stating "Aqueducts are for gay people".

The problem is that the present "Conservatives" are like heroin addicts. They will not face reality, even if the price of not facing reality is their own lives.

 

[Old Rocks]

Even the Maya, Egypt(ancient), Inca and Roman republic put resources and time into bettering their nations against climate charge.

Mathew, if you have not read Jared Diamond's 'Collapse', you really should read that book. Outlines mistakes past cultures and nations have made, and how we are presently emulating many of those mistakes. From mining our water, to ignoring the obvious changing climate.

 

[flacaltenn]

How about not scaring our grade schoolers that if Mommy doesn't use a WWF cloth shopping bag with a Polar Bear on it --- the planet is gonna explode?

Our level of preparedness starts with SUBSTANTIATIVE science education --- NOT indoctrination...

 

[waltky]

Yea, Granny gets cranky at Uncle Ferd when it's hot...

Rise in violence 'linked to climate change'
1 August 2013 > Shifts in climate are strongly linked to increases in violence around the world, a study suggests.

US scientists found that even small changes in temperature or rainfall correlated with a rise in assaults, rapes and murders, as well as group conflicts and war. The team says with the current projected levels of climate change, the world is likely to become a more violent place. The study is published in Science. Marshall Burke, from the University of California, Berkeley, said: "This is a relationship we observe across time and across all major continents around the world. The relationship we find between these climate variables and conflict outcomes are often very large."

The researchers looked at 60 studies from around the world, with data spanning hundreds of years. They report a "substantial" correlation between climate and conflict. Their examples include an increase in domestic violence in India during recent droughts, and a spike in assaults, rapes and murders during heatwaves in the US. The report also suggests rising temperatures correlated with larger conflicts, including ethnic clashes in Europe and civil wars in Africa.

Biological root?

Mr Burke said: "We want to be careful, you don't want to attribute any single event to climate in particular, but there are some really interesting results." The researchers say they are now trying to understand why this causal relationship exists. "The literature offers a couple of different hints," explained Mr Burke. "One of the main mechanisms that seems to be at play is changes in economic conditions. We know that climate affects economic conditions around the world, particularly agrarian parts of the world. and there is lots of evidence that changes in economic conditions affect people's decisions about whether or not to join a rebellion, for example." But he said there could also be a physiological basis, because some studies suggest that heat causes people to be prone to aggression. "It is a major priority for future research to distinguish between what is going on in each particular situation."

The scientists say that with the current projected levels of climate change the world is likely to become a more violent place. They estimate that a 2C rise in global temperature could see personal crimes increase by about 15%, and group conflicts rise by more than 50% in some regions. However, other researchers have questioned whether climate breeds conflict. Work published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences suggested that this environmental factor was not to blame for civil war in Africa. Instead, the conflict was more highly correlated with other factors, such as high infant mortality, proximity to international borders and high local population density.

BBC News - Rise in violence 'linked to climate change'

 

[ScienceRocks]

How about not scaring our grade schoolers that if Mommy doesn't use a WWF cloth shopping bag with a Polar Bear on it --- the planet is gonna explode?

Our level of preparedness starts with SUBSTANTIATIVE science education --- NOT indoctrination...

Would you agree that some of these cities along rivers that keep getting flooded probably should be better protected?

 

[westwall]

How about not scaring our grade schoolers that if Mommy doesn't use a WWF cloth shopping bag with a Polar Bear on it --- the planet is gonna explode?

Our level of preparedness starts with SUBSTANTIATIVE science education --- NOT indoctrination...

Would you agree that some of these cities along rivers that keep getting flooded probably should be better protected?

No, they should be moved. They have been in the same stupid areas for hundreds of years in some cases. Move them to higher ground. Or, do what Sacramento did and raise the city to a new higher level.

 

[SSDD]

How about not scaring our grade schoolers that if Mommy doesn't use a WWF cloth shopping bag with a Polar Bear on it --- the planet is gonna explode?

Our level of preparedness starts with SUBSTANTIATIVE science education --- NOT indoctrination...

Would you agree that some of these cities along rivers that keep getting flooded probably should be better protected?

How many times does an area have to be flooded, or burned, or rattled in earthquakes before the people who live there figure out that it isn't necessarily a good place to live? Demand that people who want to live in such areas self insure so the rest of us don't have to keep paying for their stupidity.

 

[editec]

How about not scaring our grade schoolers that if Mommy doesn't use a WWF cloth shopping bag with a Polar Bear on it --- the planet is gonna explode?

Our level of preparedness starts with SUBSTANTIATIVE science education --- NOT indoctrination...

Would you agree that some of these cities along rivers that keep getting flooded probably should be better protected?

How many times does an area have to be flooded, or burned, or rattled in earthquakes before the people who live there figure out that it isn't necessarily a good place to live? Demand that people who want to live in such areas self insure so the rest of us don't have to keep paying for their stupidity.

You know I actually agree with that POV except that there are very few places on earth that are not subject to some kind of natural disaster.

But obviously in those places where the possibility is clear and present danger (like homes built on sand bars) I'm totally with you.

 

[flacaltenn]

Yea, Granny gets cranky at Uncle Ferd when it's hot...

Rise in violence 'linked to climate change'
1 August 2013 > Shifts in climate are strongly linked to increases in violence around the world, a study suggests.

US scientists found that even small changes in temperature or rainfall correlated with a rise in assaults, rapes and murders, as well as group conflicts and war. The team says with the current projected levels of climate change, the world is likely to become a more violent place. The study is published in Science. Marshall Burke, from the University of California, Berkeley, said: "This is a relationship we observe across time and across all major continents around the world. The relationship we find between these climate variables and conflict outcomes are often very large."

The researchers looked at 60 studies from around the world, with data spanning hundreds of years. They report a "substantial" correlation between climate and conflict. Their examples include an increase in domestic violence in India during recent droughts, and a spike in assaults, rapes and murders during heatwaves in the US. The report also suggests rising temperatures correlated with larger conflicts, including ethnic clashes in Europe and civil wars in Africa.

Biological root?

Mr Burke said: "We want to be careful, you don't want to attribute any single event to climate in particular, but there are some really interesting results." The researchers say they are now trying to understand why this causal relationship exists. "The literature offers a couple of different hints," explained Mr Burke. "One of the main mechanisms that seems to be at play is changes in economic conditions. We know that climate affects economic conditions around the world, particularly agrarian parts of the world. and there is lots of evidence that changes in economic conditions affect people's decisions about whether or not to join a rebellion, for example." But he said there could also be a physiological basis, because some studies suggest that heat causes people to be prone to aggression. "It is a major priority for future research to distinguish between what is going on in each particular situation."

The scientists say that with the current projected levels of climate change the world is likely to become a more violent place. They estimate that a 2C rise in global temperature could see personal crimes increase by about 15%, and group conflicts rise by more than 50% in some regions. However, other researchers have questioned whether climate breeds conflict. Work published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences suggested that this environmental factor was not to blame for civil war in Africa. Instead, the conflict was more highly correlated with other factors, such as high infant mortality, proximity to international borders and high local population density.

BBC News - Rise in violence 'linked to climate change'

Waltky --- If Granny gets cranky when it rains or when it doesn't rain.. THEN -- it might be "climate change"..

WTHell... So if I moved the residents of N'Orleans to Chicago --- they'd be more peaceful?
Please don't send a busload of Californians to Tennessee then...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

AGW Cult is Cult

"Save the Planet! Head for the Mothership behind the Comet"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And the same loony Cult Left mocks the story of Noah and the Ark

 

[flacaltenn]

How about not scaring our grade schoolers that if Mommy doesn't use a WWF cloth shopping bag with a Polar Bear on it --- the planet is gonna explode?

Our level of preparedness starts with SUBSTANTIATIVE science education --- NOT indoctrination...

Would you agree that some of these cities along rivers that keep getting flooded probably should be better protected?

I'll vote with WestWall.. If these places can't prioritize and make those changes without a MASSIVE pseudo-science campaign seeking Federal powers to FORCE THEM to do it --- they shouldn't be there..

I'm in favor of preparedness and "worst case" design.. That's just good engineering. Doesn't help to motivate it with fairytales and loss of sovereignty and freedoms..

From an engineering point of view.. The vague pronouncements of Climate Change completely FAIL to give us a paradigm for fixing things.. MOST of what needs to get fixed -- is just common sense..

 

[Sunshine]

How would you prepare civilization for climate charge? What kind of safe guards???

Improvements to stand up to climate charge

1. I'd sea wall, levies, and raise depending on "what" geography the close to ocean city sit on. Enough for a 15 foot sea level charge.
2. I'd strengthen the energy grid and make micro grids to make sure a "historic" event can't knock it off at once.
3. I'd invest in new tech and idea's to grow food. Always a good idea to improve on what we already have.
4. Put new standards for home construction that's built stronger and more energy efferent.
5. Strengthen walls around our rivers to be able to handle thousand year events every decade or so.


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Seriously? If anyone is too stupid to buy a coat when an ice age hits, they deserve to freeze.

 

[flacaltenn]

And the same loony Cult Left mocks the story of Noah and the Ark

And THAT was only 40 days and 40 nights.

Ever hear Bill Cosby do his "Noah" story??

God says to Noah --- "... and I will make it rain for a 1000 days"

Noah says ---- " why don't you just make it rain for 40 days and wait til their sewers back up?"

God says --- "Good idea"...