How to actually lower gun murder rates..."Operation Ceasefire," but Dems don't like it

[2aguy]

Twit....mass shootings are tiny in number, in 2014 a total of 9 people were killed in mass shootings here in the United States....

criminals murdering criminals are the majority of the 8,124 gun murders in 2014.....

Let's see, subtract the 9 deaths from mass shooters in 2014....from the 8,124 gun murders...

That leaves 8,115 of the gun murders that weren't mass shootings.....

Please...try to understand the truth, the facts and the reality of guns in the United States...you will post more intelligently...

Where did you get that from, Breitbart? Here is a list of mass shootings in 2014 with corroborating reports on each
Mass Shootings in 2014 - Mass Shooting Tracker

The shooting tracker is a lie....as almost all arguments from gun grabbers are...the truth, facts and reality don't support their beliefs...and they feel no need to tell the truth in order to push their agenda...

Washington Post's misleading article on "mass shootings" - falsely claiming "204 mass shootings" when virtually none of these cases qualify for the normal definition of "mass," UPDATED: Response from Washington Post - Crime Prevention Research Center

At least there is no argument about the obvious, that the cases in Ingraham’s sample overwhelmingly involve gangs (as he notes, their definition “allows [their data] to incorporate more of the garden variety gun violence that happens due to gang and other criminal activity, particularly in urban areas”). The problem here isn’t just that “gang members killing each other over turf are motivated by different reasons than disturbed individuals who decide to shoot up theaters,” but that 1) it is particularly difficult to stop drug gang members from getting weapons and 2) that Ingraham’s piece invoked the “mass public shooting” examples that get people’s attention and never gave his readers an idea that the vast majority of his cases were not remotely similar to those cases.

If someone is shot it's a shooting. Like mentioned in my previous post, if 18 people are shot, but only 1 dies, that is still a mass shooting.

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

Wrong.....normal people who here "mass shooting" assume it means a stranger walking into a public place and murdering people in public....they do not think it means criminals who kill each other or family members murdering their families.......

They lie by lumping in all shootings in order to misrepresent the number of actual mass public shootings, in order to push their anti gun agenda.....

They lie...and they lie to fool people who do not pay close attention to the issue.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Where did you get that from, Breitbart? Here is a list of mass shootings in 2014 with corroborating reports on each
Mass Shootings in 2014 - Mass Shooting Tracker

The shooting tracker is a lie....as almost all arguments from gun grabbers are...the truth, facts and reality don't support their beliefs...and they feel no need to tell the truth in order to push their agenda...

Washington Post's misleading article on "mass shootings" - falsely claiming "204 mass shootings" when virtually none of these cases qualify for the normal definition of "mass," UPDATED: Response from Washington Post - Crime Prevention Research Center

At least there is no argument about the obvious, that the cases in Ingraham’s sample overwhelmingly involve gangs (as he notes, their definition “allows [their data] to incorporate more of the garden variety gun violence that happens due to gang and other criminal activity, particularly in urban areas”). The problem here isn’t just that “gang members killing each other over turf are motivated by different reasons than disturbed individuals who decide to shoot up theaters,” but that 1) it is particularly difficult to stop drug gang members from getting weapons and 2) that Ingraham’s piece invoked the “mass public shooting” examples that get people’s attention and never gave his readers an idea that the vast majority of his cases were not remotely similar to those cases.

If someone is shot it's a shooting. Like mentioned in my previous post, if 18 people are shot, but only 1 dies, that is still a mass shooting.

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

Wrong.....normal people who here "mass shooting" assume it means a stranger walking into a public place and murdering people in public....they do not think it means criminals who kill each other or family members murdering their families.......

They lie by lumping in all shootings in order to misrepresent the number of actual mass public shootings, in order to push their anti gun agenda.....

They lie...and they lie to fool people who do not pay close attention to the issue.

Yes, it's so much better to kill several people, at home in private.

 

[2aguy]

Twit....mass shootings are tiny in number, in 2014 a total of 9 people were killed in mass shootings here in the United States....

criminals murdering criminals are the majority of the 8,124 gun murders in 2014.....

Let's see, subtract the 9 deaths from mass shooters in 2014....from the 8,124 gun murders...

That leaves 8,115 of the gun murders that weren't mass shootings.....

Please...try to understand the truth, the facts and the reality of guns in the United States...you will post more intelligently...

Where did you get that from, Breitbart? Here is a list of mass shootings in 2014 with corroborating reports on each
Mass Shootings in 2014 - Mass Shooting Tracker

The shooting tracker is a lie....as almost all arguments from gun grabbers are...the truth, facts and reality don't support their beliefs...and they feel no need to tell the truth in order to push their agenda...

Washington Post's misleading article on "mass shootings" - falsely claiming "204 mass shootings" when virtually none of these cases qualify for the normal definition of "mass," UPDATED: Response from Washington Post - Crime Prevention Research Center

At least there is no argument about the obvious, that the cases in Ingraham’s sample overwhelmingly involve gangs (as he notes, their definition “allows [their data] to incorporate more of the garden variety gun violence that happens due to gang and other criminal activity, particularly in urban areas”). The problem here isn’t just that “gang members killing each other over turf are motivated by different reasons than disturbed individuals who decide to shoot up theaters,” but that 1) it is particularly difficult to stop drug gang members from getting weapons and 2) that Ingraham’s piece invoked the “mass public shooting” examples that get people’s attention and never gave his readers an idea that the vast majority of his cases were not remotely similar to those cases.

If someone is shot it's a shooting. Like mentioned in my previous post, if 18 people are shot, but only 1 dies, that is still a mass shooting.

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

And from politicfact....

Wasserman Schultz claims 294 mass shootings in 2015 alone

Experts’ caveats

An academic told us that one problem with Mass Shooting Tracker is it lumps together incidents that are different -- for example, those shot in bar fights are counted along with school shootings.

"This is not consistent with the motivations behind events like Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Tucson, or Sandy Hook, and therefore are not comparable in the way we think of mass shootings," said Jaclyn Schildkraut, at State University of New York System. "By including such events to try and quantify a phenomenon (though the loss of one life is one too many), these sources essentially are inflating the statistics."

 

[BULLDOG]

Where did you get that from, Breitbart? Here is a list of mass shootings in 2014 with corroborating reports on each
Mass Shootings in 2014 - Mass Shooting Tracker

The shooting tracker is a lie....as almost all arguments from gun grabbers are...the truth, facts and reality don't support their beliefs...and they feel no need to tell the truth in order to push their agenda...

Washington Post's misleading article on "mass shootings" - falsely claiming "204 mass shootings" when virtually none of these cases qualify for the normal definition of "mass," UPDATED: Response from Washington Post - Crime Prevention Research Center

At least there is no argument about the obvious, that the cases in Ingraham’s sample overwhelmingly involve gangs (as he notes, their definition “allows [their data] to incorporate more of the garden variety gun violence that happens due to gang and other criminal activity, particularly in urban areas”). The problem here isn’t just that “gang members killing each other over turf are motivated by different reasons than disturbed individuals who decide to shoot up theaters,” but that 1) it is particularly difficult to stop drug gang members from getting weapons and 2) that Ingraham’s piece invoked the “mass public shooting” examples that get people’s attention and never gave his readers an idea that the vast majority of his cases were not remotely similar to those cases.

If someone is shot it's a shooting. Like mentioned in my previous post, if 18 people are shot, but only 1 dies, that is still a mass shooting.

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

Wrong.....normal people who here "mass shooting" assume it means a stranger walking into a public place and murdering people in public....they do not think it means criminals who kill each other or family members murdering their families.......

They lie by lumping in all shootings in order to misrepresent the number of actual mass public shootings, in order to push their anti gun agenda.....

They lie...and they lie to fool people who do not pay close attention to the issue.

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

 

[BULLDOG]

Where did you get that from, Breitbart? Here is a list of mass shootings in 2014 with corroborating reports on each
Mass Shootings in 2014 - Mass Shooting Tracker

The shooting tracker is a lie....as almost all arguments from gun grabbers are...the truth, facts and reality don't support their beliefs...and they feel no need to tell the truth in order to push their agenda...

Washington Post's misleading article on "mass shootings" - falsely claiming "204 mass shootings" when virtually none of these cases qualify for the normal definition of "mass," UPDATED: Response from Washington Post - Crime Prevention Research Center

At least there is no argument about the obvious, that the cases in Ingraham’s sample overwhelmingly involve gangs (as he notes, their definition “allows [their data] to incorporate more of the garden variety gun violence that happens due to gang and other criminal activity, particularly in urban areas”). The problem here isn’t just that “gang members killing each other over turf are motivated by different reasons than disturbed individuals who decide to shoot up theaters,” but that 1) it is particularly difficult to stop drug gang members from getting weapons and 2) that Ingraham’s piece invoked the “mass public shooting” examples that get people’s attention and never gave his readers an idea that the vast majority of his cases were not remotely similar to those cases.

If someone is shot it's a shooting. Like mentioned in my previous post, if 18 people are shot, but only 1 dies, that is still a mass shooting.

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

And from politicfact....

Wasserman Schultz claims 294 mass shootings in 2015 alone

Experts’ caveats

An academic told us that one problem with Mass Shooting Tracker is it lumps together incidents that are different -- for example, those shot in bar fights are counted along with school shootings.

"This is not consistent with the motivations behind events like Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Tucson, or Sandy Hook, and therefore are not comparable in the way we think of mass shootings," said Jaclyn Schildkraut, at State University of New York System. "By including such events to try and quantify a phenomenon (though the loss of one life is one too many), these sources essentially are inflating the statistics."

We aren't talking about motivations dumbass.

 

[2aguy]

The shooting tracker is a lie....as almost all arguments from gun grabbers are...the truth, facts and reality don't support their beliefs...and they feel no need to tell the truth in order to push their agenda...

Washington Post's misleading article on "mass shootings" - falsely claiming "204 mass shootings" when virtually none of these cases qualify for the normal definition of "mass," UPDATED: Response from Washington Post - Crime Prevention Research Center

At least there is no argument about the obvious, that the cases in Ingraham’s sample overwhelmingly involve gangs (as he notes, their definition “allows [their data] to incorporate more of the garden variety gun violence that happens due to gang and other criminal activity, particularly in urban areas”). The problem here isn’t just that “gang members killing each other over turf are motivated by different reasons than disturbed individuals who decide to shoot up theaters,” but that 1) it is particularly difficult to stop drug gang members from getting weapons and 2) that Ingraham’s piece invoked the “mass public shooting” examples that get people’s attention and never gave his readers an idea that the vast majority of his cases were not remotely similar to those cases.

If someone is shot it's a shooting. Like mentioned in my previous post, if 18 people are shot, but only 1 dies, that is still a mass shooting.

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

Wrong.....normal people who here "mass shooting" assume it means a stranger walking into a public place and murdering people in public....they do not think it means criminals who kill each other or family members murdering their families.......

They lie by lumping in all shootings in order to misrepresent the number of actual mass public shootings, in order to push their anti gun agenda.....

They lie...and they lie to fool people who do not pay close attention to the issue.

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

 

[2aguy]

The shooting tracker is a lie....as almost all arguments from gun grabbers are...the truth, facts and reality don't support their beliefs...and they feel no need to tell the truth in order to push their agenda...

Washington Post's misleading article on "mass shootings" - falsely claiming "204 mass shootings" when virtually none of these cases qualify for the normal definition of "mass," UPDATED: Response from Washington Post - Crime Prevention Research Center

At least there is no argument about the obvious, that the cases in Ingraham’s sample overwhelmingly involve gangs (as he notes, their definition “allows [their data] to incorporate more of the garden variety gun violence that happens due to gang and other criminal activity, particularly in urban areas”). The problem here isn’t just that “gang members killing each other over turf are motivated by different reasons than disturbed individuals who decide to shoot up theaters,” but that 1) it is particularly difficult to stop drug gang members from getting weapons and 2) that Ingraham’s piece invoked the “mass public shooting” examples that get people’s attention and never gave his readers an idea that the vast majority of his cases were not remotely similar to those cases.

If someone is shot it's a shooting. Like mentioned in my previous post, if 18 people are shot, but only 1 dies, that is still a mass shooting.

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

And from politicfact....

Wasserman Schultz claims 294 mass shootings in 2015 alone

Experts’ caveats

An academic told us that one problem with Mass Shooting Tracker is it lumps together incidents that are different -- for example, those shot in bar fights are counted along with school shootings.

"This is not consistent with the motivations behind events like Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Tucson, or Sandy Hook, and therefore are not comparable in the way we think of mass shootings," said Jaclyn Schildkraut, at State University of New York System. "By including such events to try and quantify a phenomenon (though the loss of one life is one too many), these sources essentially are inflating the statistics."

We aren't talking about motivations dumbass.

Yes...I know you aren't because if you do, then the Mother Jones article is accurate and there were only 9 people killed by actual mass shooters in 2014....if you add in the other 8,124 gun murders committed by career criminals killing other career criminals then you can show larger numbers of dead and you can scare the uninformed......and get them to vote for gun grabbing politicians.......you guys lie....it is all you have since the facts and reality do not support your fears and phobias.....

 

[BULLDOG]

If someone is shot it's a shooting. Like mentioned in my previous post, if 18 people are shot, but only 1 dies, that is still a mass shooting.

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

Wrong.....normal people who here "mass shooting" assume it means a stranger walking into a public place and murdering people in public....they do not think it means criminals who kill each other or family members murdering their families.......

They lie by lumping in all shootings in order to misrepresent the number of actual mass public shootings, in order to push their anti gun agenda.....

They lie...and they lie to fool people who do not pay close attention to the issue.

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

 

[BULLDOG]

If someone is shot it's a shooting. Like mentioned in my previous post, if 18 people are shot, but only 1 dies, that is still a mass shooting.

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

And from politicfact....

Wasserman Schultz claims 294 mass shootings in 2015 alone

Experts’ caveats

An academic told us that one problem with Mass Shooting Tracker is it lumps together incidents that are different -- for example, those shot in bar fights are counted along with school shootings.

"This is not consistent with the motivations behind events like Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Tucson, or Sandy Hook, and therefore are not comparable in the way we think of mass shootings," said Jaclyn Schildkraut, at State University of New York System. "By including such events to try and quantify a phenomenon (though the loss of one life is one too many), these sources essentially are inflating the statistics."

We aren't talking about motivations dumbass.

Yes...I know you aren't because if you do, then the Mother Jones article is accurate and there were only 9 people killed by actual mass shooters in 2014....if you add in the other 8,124 gun murders committed by career criminals killing other career criminals then you can show larger numbers of dead and you can scare the uninformed......and get them to vote for gun grabbing politicians.......you guys lie....it is all you have since the facts and reality do not support your fears and phobias.....

Nobody is coming to get the guns idiot.

 

[2aguy]

Nope...they include regular criminals and call it mass shootings...it is the only way they get the numbers so high and by doing so they lie....they know that when normal people here "mass shooting" they assume it means an individual going into a public place and murdering people.....they do not think it means criminals shooting each other in he commission of criminal activity or over gang business...they lie...because they are pushing an agenda and he truth and the facts and reality do not support their beliefs.....

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

Wrong.....normal people who here "mass shooting" assume it means a stranger walking into a public place and murdering people in public....they do not think it means criminals who kill each other or family members murdering their families.......

They lie by lumping in all shootings in order to misrepresent the number of actual mass public shootings, in order to push their anti gun agenda.....

They lie...and they lie to fool people who do not pay close attention to the issue.

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

 

[BULLDOG]

Killing people is murder. Shooting people is shooting. When they shoot four or more at one time, that is a mass shooting even if the ones shot don't die.. You don't get that?

Wrong.....normal people who here "mass shooting" assume it means a stranger walking into a public place and murdering people in public....they do not think it means criminals who kill each other or family members murdering their families.......

They lie by lumping in all shootings in order to misrepresent the number of actual mass public shootings, in order to push their anti gun agenda.....

They lie...and they lie to fool people who do not pay close attention to the issue.

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

 

[2aguy]

Wrong.....normal people who here "mass shooting" assume it means a stranger walking into a public place and murdering people in public....they do not think it means criminals who kill each other or family members murdering their families.......

They lie by lumping in all shootings in order to misrepresent the number of actual mass public shootings, in order to push their anti gun agenda.....

They lie...and they lie to fool people who do not pay close attention to the issue.

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

How many need to be shot before you'd call it a mass shooting? Say maybe, a clip of 30? Or would 10 do?

I know, if you shoot less than 10 and no one dies, we'll call it an accidental discharge, while you were cleaning it...

 

[2aguy]

Wrong.....normal people who here "mass shooting" assume it means a stranger walking into a public place and murdering people in public....they do not think it means criminals who kill each other or family members murdering their families.......

They lie by lumping in all shootings in order to misrepresent the number of actual mass public shootings, in order to push their anti gun agenda.....

They lie...and they lie to fool people who do not pay close attention to the issue.

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

Twit......this is how they boost their numbers...a convicted felon, with illegally obtained guns shoots up rivals at a party...

UPDATE: Man wanted in connection to Shenandoah Ave. double murder turns himself in to police

The Roanoke Police Department has identified the two people who were killed Sunday morning in a shooting on Shenandoah Avenue.

Ronald Ramey, 55, was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Lenard Hamlett, 29, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Four other people were hurt in the shooting. They are Nelson Sanders, age 22; Jamar James, 27; John English, 36; and Kente Gilkes, 33. All four men are from Roanoke.

Police are trying to determine who was responsible for renting the building and hosting the party at the former Obenchain's Greenhouses where the shootings happened. Evidence collected form the scene indicates that alcohol, drugs and guns were present at the party.

 

[BULLDOG]

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

Only if you call listing mass shootings that didn't kill at least four people lumping everything.

 

[2aguy]

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

How many need to be shot before you'd call it a mass shooting? Say maybe, a clip of 30? Or would 10 do?

Twit.....a public shooting is different than a gang shooting.....shouldn't your parent's have locked you in your room already.....didn't they score drugs tonight....

 

[2aguy]

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

Only if you call listing mass shootings that didn't kill at least four people lumping everything.

Nope.....gang members shooting other gang members at a party is not what people consider a mass shooting....and you know that, shootingtracker knows it....you are lying....

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

And the shootingtracker lumps in everything simply to increase their numbers to lie about mass shootings....

How many need to be shot before you'd call it a mass shooting? Say maybe, a clip of 30? Or would 10 do?

Twit.....a public shooting is different than a gang shooting.....shouldn't your parent's have locked you in your room already.....didn't they score drugs tonight....

It's different how? Oh right. because in one someone like you might get killed, and in the other it's just those stupid ******* killing each other, and they don't count. Got it.

 

[2aguy]

Wow...another shooting from shooting tracker...another party........

Two dead, five injured in shooting at Hope Mills party :: WRAL.com

Two people were killed and five others were injured in a shooting early Sunday at a Hope Mills party, according to the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office.



Tanishia Graham, 32, and Izaak Bridges, 21, were killed in the shooting at the home at 1914 Gumberry Court shortly before 2 a.m. Names of the five people who were injured were not released.



Investigators believe the incident was not a drive-by shooting, but that it happened at the party.


Read more at Two dead, five injured in shooting at Hope Mills party :: WRAL.com

Yeah......not what people think off when you say mass shooting.....you are lying, they are lying....

 

[BULLDOG]

Dumbass. Just because a person shoots a bunch of family members or a bunch of a rival gang doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting. It's about how many are shot. not who they are.

Twit........if criminals shoot each other at a drug buy and they kill 4 of each other, normal people are not concerned......when a guy walks into a mall and shoots 4 strangers buying Christmas gifts people care....so shootingtracker lumps them together to make it seem like there are more strangers walking into malls...when it isn't true...they are lying......

If they don't die, your source wouldn't count either group.

Twit....did you read Mother Jones.......they lists injuries as well......moron.

Sure they do, but only if the magic number of 4 are killed. Any less than 4 deaths, and it didn't happen as far as that database is concerned.

From your link
Other recent public shooting attacks, such as the rampage at Fort Hood in April 2014, another in Isla Vista, California in May 2014, and another on a bridge in Wisconsin in May 2015, have not been included because there were fewer than four victims shot to death in each of those cases.

There are a lot of mass shootings that don't reach the tragedy of four deaths, but they are still mass shootings

Twit......this is how they boost their numbers...a convicted felon, with illegally obtained guns shoots up rivals at a party...

UPDATE: Man wanted in connection to Shenandoah Ave. double murder turns himself in to police

The Roanoke Police Department has identified the two people who were killed Sunday morning in a shooting on Shenandoah Avenue.

Ronald Ramey, 55, was pronounced dead at Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Lenard Hamlett, 29, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Four other people were hurt in the shooting. They are Nelson Sanders, age 22; Jamar James, 27; John English, 36; and Kente Gilkes, 33. All four men are from Roanoke.

Police are trying to determine who was responsible for renting the building and hosting the party at the former Obenchain's Greenhouses where the shootings happened. Evidence collected form the scene indicates that alcohol, drugs and guns were present at the party.

So you want to judge whether the victims were worthy before you call it a mass shooting? Can a black person be a victim of a mass shooting in your opinion, or do their lives even matter to you?