How Romney "Won" the Debate

[courseofhistory]

Romney won the debate using this technique:

Named for the debate tactic created by creationist shill Duane Gish, a Gish Gallop involves spewing so much bullshit in such a short span on that your opponent can’t address let alone counter all of it. To make matters worse a Gish Gallop will often have one or more 'talking points' that has a tiny core of truth to it, making the person rebutting it spend even more time debunking it in order to explain that, yes, it's not totally false but the Galloper is distorting/misusing/misstating the actual situation. A true Gish Gallop generally has two traits.

1) The factual and logical content of the Gish Gallop is pure bullshit and anybody knowledgeable and informed on the subject would recognize it as such almost instantly. That is, the Gish Gallop is designed to appeal to and deceive precisely those sorts of people who are most in need of honest factual education.

2) The points are all ones that the Galloper either knows, or damn well should know, are totally bullshit. With the slimier users of the Gish Gallop, like Gish himself, its a near certainty that the points are chosen not just because the Galloper knows that they're bullshit, but because the Galloper is deliberately trying to shovel as much bullshit into as small a space as possible in order to overwhelm his opponent with sheer volume and bamboozle any audience members with a facade of scholarly acumen and factual knowledge

It is quite apparent to those of us who have closely followed this election, that this latest sketch drawn out by Romney completely contradicts major policy ideas stumped on the campaign trail by him over the last few months. Since Obama could no longer debate the substance (or lack thereof) of Romney''s policy ideas, it threw Obama off his game. We have seen Romney do this before in the primaries. Obama needs to be prepared for it in future debates. Call it Etch-A-Sketch, call it the Gish Gallop, call it lies...it's all about the same. But it is a known debate tactic. And, like Romney, it is dishonest.

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[Oddball]

 

[occupied]

Republicans love a skillful liar. Even after Romney has been proven to have "won" by being a fountain of bullshit they still love him (after hating his ass not too long ago but they can't remember back that far).

 

[Oddball]

So, a skillful liar can beat a sputtering incompetent nincompoop.

Duly noted.

 

[Dr.House]

The liberal meltdown continues....

 

[blackhawk]

 

[Eaglewings]

Romney has to make peace with the middle class after the 47 % truthful comments of what he really feels . Sad to say most everything he said last were practiced lies.
except for the part about cutting Big Birds head off..lol

 

[Avatar4321]

Republicans love a skillful liar. Even after Romney has been proven to have "won" by being a fountain of bullshit they still love him (after hating his ass not too long ago but they can't remember back that far).

Funny, I dont remember us loving Clinton or Obama.

 

[Charles_Main]

Romney won the debate using this technique:

Named for the debate tactic created by creationist shill Duane Gish, a Gish Gallop involves spewing so much bullshit in such a short span on that your opponent can’t address let alone counter all of it. To make matters worse a Gish Gallop will often have one or more 'talking points' that has a tiny core of truth to it, making the person rebutting it spend even more time debunking it in order to explain that, yes, it's not totally false but the Galloper is distorting/misusing/misstating the actual situation. A true Gish Gallop generally has two traits.

1) The factual and logical content of the Gish Gallop is pure bullshit and anybody knowledgeable and informed on the subject would recognize it as such almost instantly. That is, the Gish Gallop is designed to appeal to and deceive precisely those sorts of people who are most in need of honest factual education.

2) The points are all ones that the Galloper either knows, or damn well should know, are totally bullshit. With the slimier users of the Gish Gallop, like Gish himself, its a near certainty that the points are chosen not just because the Galloper knows that they're bullshit, but because the Galloper is deliberately trying to shovel as much bullshit into as small a space as possible in order to overwhelm his opponent with sheer volume and bamboozle any audience members with a facade of scholarly acumen and factual knowledge

It is quite apparent to those of us who have closely followed this election, that this latest sketch drawn out by Romney completely contradicts major policy ideas stumped on the campaign trail by him over the last few months. Since Obama could no longer debate the substance (or lack thereof) of Romney''s policy ideas, it threw Obama off his game. We have seen Romney do this before in the primaries. Obama needs to be prepared for it in future debates. Call it Etch-A-Sketch, call it the Gish Gallop, call it lies...it's all about the same. But it is a known debate tactic. And, like Romney, it is dishonest.

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He won because he showed a real Grasp of he Issues being discussed and Obama didn't simple as that. The Weakness and Ineptness of this President was impossible to hide in that Debate.

 

[Avatar4321]

Oh and the fact that Romney knows what he is talking about, doesn't mean he is spewing nonsense.

 

[blackhawk]

Maybe Obama should have tried saying hope and change over and over again.

 

[occupied]

Oh and the fact that Romney knows what he is talking about, doesn't mean he is spewing nonsense.

But he is, his comments and attitude last night neither match his past statements or the prevailing attitude of the republican members of congress, does anyone really believe that if a republican congress put a hefty tax cut for the wealthy on his desk he would veto it? When pigs fly.

 

[Unkotare]

So much fun watching the liberals twist themselves into knots over obama's failure. LOL!


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJbX2sb2WY]Loser - Ace Ventura - YouTube[/ame]

 

[oreo]

Romney won the debate using this technique:

Named for the debate tactic created by creationist shill Duane Gish, a Gish Gallop involves spewing so much bullshit in such a short span on that your opponent can’t address let alone counter all of it. To make matters worse a Gish Gallop will often have one or more 'talking points' that has a tiny core of truth to it, making the person rebutting it spend even more time debunking it in order to explain that, yes, it's not totally false but the Galloper is distorting/misusing/misstating the actual situation. A true Gish Gallop generally has two traits.

1) The factual and logical content of the Gish Gallop is pure bullshit and anybody knowledgeable and informed on the subject would recognize it as such almost instantly. That is, the Gish Gallop is designed to appeal to and deceive precisely those sorts of people who are most in need of honest factual education.

2) The points are all ones that the Galloper either knows, or damn well should know, are totally bullshit. With the slimier users of the Gish Gallop, like Gish himself, its a near certainty that the points are chosen not just because the Galloper knows that they're bullshit, but because the Galloper is deliberately trying to shovel as much bullshit into as small a space as possible in order to overwhelm his opponent with sheer volume and bamboozle any audience members with a facade of scholarly acumen and factual knowledge

It is quite apparent to those of us who have closely followed this election, that this latest sketch drawn out by Romney completely contradicts major policy ideas stumped on the campaign trail by him over the last few months. Since Obama could no longer debate the substance (or lack thereof) of Romney''s policy ideas, it threw Obama off his game. We have seen Romney do this before in the primaries. Obama needs to be prepared for it in future debates. Call it Etch-A-Sketch, call it the Gish Gallop, call it lies...it's all about the same. But it is a known debate tactic. And, like Romney, it is dishonest.

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Barack Obama got his little boy rear end kicked last night by an experienced ADULT in Mitt Romney--who has command of economic issues--through hard earned economic success and experience.

 

[Eaglewings]

So much fun watching the liberals twist themselves into knots over obama's failure. LOL!


Loser - Ace Ventura - YouTube

I love Ace and the Loser skit. Things will be changing much more until we vote. It has been quit intense like a roller coaster

 

[blackhawk]

As fun as it has been tweaking the left over their debate meltdown I will end the night with a serious post on the subject Obama lost the debate for two reasons.
1- He has a poor record that is difficult at best to defend impossible at worst.
2- He was not prepared for someone to really challenge him on his record.
It really is just this simple deal with it or don't.

 

[Eaglewings]

Romney won the debate using this technique:

It is quite apparent to those of us who have closely followed this election, that this latest sketch drawn out by Romney completely contradicts major policy ideas stumped on the campaign trail by him over the last few months. Since Obama could no longer debate the substance (or lack thereof) of Romney''s policy ideas, it threw Obama off his game. We have seen Romney do this before in the primaries. Obama needs to be prepared for it in future debates. Call it Etch-A-Sketch, call it the Gish Gallop, call it lies...it's all about the same. But it is a known debate tactic. And, like Romney, it is dishonest.

.

Barack Obama got his little boy rear end kicked last night by an experienced ADULT in Mitt Romney--who has command of economic issues--through hard earned economic success and experience.

This picture is too funny

No worries its just round 1.

 

[courseofhistory]

Romney Goes On Offense, Romney flatly disputed that number. "First of all, I don't have a $5 trillion tax cut," he said.

Who's right? The Washington Post's Fact Checker says the facts on this one are on Obama's side. The New York Times notes that Romney "has proposed cutting all marginal tax rates by 20 percent — which would in and of itself cut tax revenue by $5 trillion."
Pays For It In First Wave Of Fact Checks

 

[xsited1]

Romney won the debate using this technique:

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Did you actually mean to quote the Daily Kos?

 

[2ndAmendment]

As I read somewhere, Romney won it by being himself and Obama lost it by being himself.

Can't wait for round 2.