Big Black Dog
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What I would save in gas money would be spent on electricity so you couldn't give me one of those electric cars.
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I don't see a problem with the Chevy Volt only getting 40 gas free miles in a trip event. In a longer trip I would only have to depend on gas to a smaller percentage than 100%, say 50% gas in eighty miles, and I could manage that, and spend very little on gas.
Problem is, I don' really know how much my electric bill will be boosted by the charging costs, the safety of those charging times; it's not free, and Obama's EPA has assured that at least one third of our Indiana coal fired plants will be shutting down, and that will agravate those charging costs.
On the other hand, I drive a big engine GMC Savana van, but I need it to haul my tools, and it gets about 10 mpg with my type of driving, and I nurse it - it has a fuel efficiency reading at all times.
Why bother with a fuel efficiency gauge?? Just saying..
You could probably pay off a Hybrid Van with the fuel savings you would get..
MOFact ---
Chevy Express & GMC Savana Hybrid Van | XL Hybrids
THere ya go -- Same Savana --- 25% better mileage.
(((Geez -- does that mean 12.5 mpgal?)) Maybe not a good investment eh? Pushes hybrid tech a little too far me thinks..
How much range(miles) on a single charge would an electric car need before you would consider one?
Me, 400 miles.
0 to 60 in 5 seconds
Under 3 hour full recharge
100,000 miles before replacement of the battery
Battery replacement under a few thousand dollars(tops)
How much range(miles) on a single charge would an electric car need before you would consider one?
Me, 400 miles.
0 to 60 in 5 seconds
Under 3 hour full recharge
100,000 miles before replacement of the battery
Battery replacement under a few thousand dollars(tops)
Tlready have such with both Tesla models. Plus with the advent of the zinc-air battery, we can now get a higher charge density than what gasoline offers! I say wake up America, we no longer have to be held hostage by the likes of Exxon etal. Just type this search into google and you can see we have known about the technology of zinc-air batteries for over 20 years now site:anl.gov zinc-air
WHAT??? Higher energy densities than GASOLINE?? What High School propaganda are you reading? Gasoline has about 25 TIMES the energy per weight of a zinc-air battery and 5 times the energy by volume..
You're new -- you really want to blow all your cred in your 1st few posts?
And here's a news flash -- Zinc air isn't designed to MAKE power to run vehicles -- Gasoline is..
What I would save in gas money would be spent on electricity so you couldn't give me one of those electric cars.
THere's no way I'm gonna let a bumpkin mechanic in a roadside town lift out my power plant and give me his.. These battery stacks have finite lifetimes, they can be abused from improper charge/discharge cycles and they are TOO expensive to be swappable units.
Not to mention that by design -- they have to buried deep in the frame to prevent collision damage or leakage to the occupants in an accident.
Would be better to figure out how to embed "in-road" charging. So that you can pick up charge as you drive..
Tlready have such with both Tesla models. Plus with the advent of the zinc-air battery, we can now get a higher charge density than what gasoline offers! I say wake up America, we no longer have to be held hostage by the likes of Exxon etal. Just type this search into google and you can see we have known about the technology of zinc-air batteries for over 20 years now site:anl.gov zinc-air
WHAT??? Higher energy densities than GASOLINE?? What High School propaganda are you reading? Gasoline has about 25 TIMES the energy per weight of a zinc-air battery and 5 times the energy by volume..
You're new -- you really want to blow all your cred in your 1st few posts?
And here's a news flash -- Zinc air isn't designed to MAKE power to run vehicles -- Gasoline is..
Get real dude, get up on the technology. Envia was nearing the energy density of gasoline with their batteries. Furthermore a zinc-air battery is has down far greater than Envia's battery, and has more energy density than gasoline. Try reading up on this technology before coming on here and attacking me with your right wing nut propaganda-- but oh yea right, you will not learn any of this listening to the faux network! And so sorry to tell you I got much farther than high school and earned advanced degrees in electrical engineering. The problem is people like you with your false rhetoric, spreading lies and disinformation like you do.
How many degrees in Electrical Engineering do you have?
How many degrees in Electrical Engineering do you have?
More importantly. Why do all the people who claim to have them and say they know how to make it work never build anything and prove it to us?
THere's no way I'm gonna let a bumpkin mechanic in a roadside town lift out my power plant and give me his.. These battery stacks have finite lifetimes, they can be abused from improper charge/discharge cycles and they are TOO expensive to be swappable units.
Not to mention that by design -- they have to buried deep in the frame to prevent collision damage or leakage to the occupants in an accident.
Would be better to figure out how to embed "in-road" charging. So that you can pick up charge as you drive..
THere's no way I'm gonna let a bumpkin mechanic in a roadside town lift out my power plant and give me his.. These battery stacks have finite lifetimes, they can be abused from improper charge/discharge cycles and they are TOO expensive to be swappable units.
Not to mention that by design -- they have to buried deep in the frame to prevent collision damage or leakage to the occupants in an accident.
Would be better to figure out how to embed "in-road" charging. So that you can pick up charge as you drive..
Nothing at all against a viable charge as you drive system, but to a population that gets the willies imagining brain cancer from cell phones, I'm not sure how such would play out. That said modular swap out battery systems have long been considered and are integral to at least one current production EV model.
Heck -- just sell the Worry Warts a can of black Krylon and tell them to paint the undercarraige and the shield will protect them...
And I could see a group like AAA issuing battery insurance and doing certs on the swappers. But it's gonna be hard to determine who wrecked one of these batteries from misuse with so many hands on it...