How Long Will America Last In Present Form?

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How Long Will America Last In Present Form?

Poll closed Jul 28, 2009.
  1. Forever -- It's a Magical Country

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  2. 15 Years

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  3. 25 Years, Then States Start to Secede

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  4. 50 Years, Then Break Up Into Racial/Ethnic Enclaves

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  5. 100 Years

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  1. William Joyce
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    We haven't yet seen a country on Earth that has lasted indefinitely.

    Rome fell after 500-1000 years, depending on how you plot the beginning point.

    The Soviet Union lasted less than a hundred years.

    Italy is younger than the U.S.

    I don't personally think the U.S. can last forever, given trends. It's interesting to imagine what the next phase will be.
     
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    That's depends on what you mean by present form. We have already changed several times since our founding. And Russia still exists, it was the political system that failed. Consider too that our system failed during the Civil War or Great Depression and depending how fine a line you draw, many times. Reaganomics (free market) just failed too.

    Societies evolve same as all things, and the more appropriate question may be will the world survive. The long term answer is no, as the Sun will eventually die but hey why worry - Be happy.


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    I recall from physics in college that we have about 5 billion years until the sun runs out of fuel. Maybe we'll skip the solar system by then, Star Trek-style.
     
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    One year.. TOPS !
     
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    Italy is not younger than the US, but to answer your question its a matter of a few years, after that the US will be thrown on the scrap heap as has happened with all the others.

    Thats not to say it will be ruined and lost no, it has and is being groomed for a reason and when that goal has been achieved its back to the bottom of the pile. Its a continuing process, all events are connected nothing is random.
     
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    I used to think the star trek travel possible, but when you consider the size of the universe and the limitations of travel ain't gonna happen. Even light takes too long! Mankind has five billion years to get it right, any chance they'll succeed?


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    define 'current form'
     
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    The USA has been evolving into something else as long as I've been alive.

    It's surely not the country I was born in, that's for damned sure.

    Now as to whether this nation will exist (on paper, if not in fact) by 2100?

    I rather doubt it.
     
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    Less than 3 more years. Obama is going to destroy America!
     
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