How is the boycott going?

[Hossfly]

Looks as if Mrs.John Heinz Kerry sympathizes with BDS.Just think, she could have been the First Lady.


A foundation chaired by John Kerry’s wife funds a restaurant promoting anti-Israel incitement and offering products only from countries in conflict with America.

A foundation chaired by Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry,funds a restaurant that promotes an anti-Israel agenda, the Free Beacon reports.

The eatery, called Conflict Kitchen, received a $50,000 grant from the Heinz Endowment in April to help pay for its moving costs. It is now situated near the Carnegie Mellon University and University of Pittsburgh campuses.

The restaurant, which serves popular Middle Eastern food such as hummus andbaba ghannoush, states that it only uses products from countries at war with the U.S., such as Afghanistan, North Korea, Cuba, Iran and Venezuela. “Our current focus is on Palestinian food, culture and politics,” the Conflict Kitchen website states.


Kerry s Wife Funds Anti-Israel Incitement to Violence United with Israel

 

[aris2chat]

SodaStream is not going under but they are moving their factory from the WB to the Negev in 2015. 900 palestinians will loose their jobs.
Boycott people keeping failing to grasp that jobs in the WB are a good thing for the palestinians.

 

[Beelzebub]

Looks as if Mrs.John Heinz Kerry sympathizes with BDS.Just think, she could have been the First Lady.


A foundation chaired by John Kerry’s wife funds a restaurant promoting anti-Israel incitement and offering products only from countries in conflict with America.

A foundation chaired by Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry,funds a restaurant that promotes an anti-Israel agenda, the Free Beacon reports.

The eatery, called Conflict Kitchen, received a $50,000 grant from the Heinz Endowment in April to help pay for its moving costs. It is now situated near the Carnegie Mellon University and University of Pittsburgh campuses.

The restaurant, which serves popular Middle Eastern food such as hummus andbaba ghannoush, states that it only uses products from countries at war with the U.S., such as Afghanistan, North Korea, Cuba, Iran and Venezuela. “Our current focus is on Palestinian food, culture and politics,” the Conflict Kitchen website states.


Kerry s Wife Funds Anti-Israel Incitement to Violence United with Israel

Good.
Better be a decent human being than a callous corrupt one. And the rewards of being callous and corrupt may include political position, but that is no matter. Matthew 16:26, Mark 8:37, Luke 9:26

Not that I approve of religion either, but like Shakespeare, it is very quotable.

 

[Beelzebub]

SodaStream is not going under but they are moving their factory from the WB to the Negev in 2015. 900 palestinians will loose their jobs.
Boycott people keeping failing to grasp that jobs in the WB are a good thing for the palestinians.

Its normal for companies to offer employees a relocation package when they move a factory. Are you saying that Sodastream will not do this when they move off stolen Palestinians farm land?

I take it that Sodastream will return the land in good condition the Palestinian families it dispossessed and pay them for the back-years of use, yes? If they don't want to present themselves as bandits they would need to do that.

Also, this place in the desert: How will they be paying for that? Cash or cheque?

 

[aris2chat]

SodaStream is not going under but they are moving their factory from the WB to the Negev in 2015. 900 palestinians will loose their jobs.
Boycott people keeping failing to grasp that jobs in the WB are a good thing for the palestinians.

Its normal for companies to offer employees a relocation package when they move a factory. Are you saying that Sodastream will not do this when they move off stolen Palestinians farm land?

I take it that Sodastream will return the land in good condition the Palestinian families it dispossessed and pay them for the back-years of use, yes? If they don't want to present themselves as bandits they would need to do that.

Also, this place in the desert: How will they be paying for that? Cash or cheque?

Palestinians are not being moved to Israel so they can keep their jobs. They might have earned more than other palestinians but these are not high tech or BA required jobs that are not replacable.
Yes companies like IBM, Microsoft or HP might offer their executive special packages to sell their home and move. You even have certain oil or security jobs that will pay extra to work oversea. When car compaines moved factories out of detroit they did not pay their factory worker to move but might have some of the designers, safety testers and execs.
Just because a company moves it does not take all it's employees to move as well. They hire locally.
Beside, palestinians would have to become Israelis if they wanted to move to the negev and unless there was a need for their specific skills it is not likely an application for citizenship would be granted at this particular time.
900 jobs for Israelis will be available next year.

Speculation: this might be impart a preparation for one or more of the more eastern settlements to be turned over to the PA. It might be a precaution against a terrorism threat. Other industries in the WB might be following suit, in which case a lot more palestinians will be out of work.
It is unfortunate that the idea of companies that produced jobs for palestinians are not made to feel welcome by the PA. Planned cities in the PA in progress or scheduled to have begun in the near future might also be at risk.

 

[Beelzebub]

So you say that Palestinians were are allowed anything other than the mundane low-skill jobs, not the organising or management role, or technical jobs.

Interesting Aris. How can it be that you are so sure that one ethnicity is allocated the menial tasks only?
You are saying that Sodastream operates a racist employment system. Say it's not so, Joe!

And even if there were some key valuable Palestinian workers Israel will prevent the movement of them to support a plant because why? Doesn't Israel claim the right to settle all of Judea and Samaria as part of the same Israel? In which case all inhabitants must be given citizenship, or you would be a racist and apartheid state, surely?

 

[aris2chat]

Land and a warehouse has likely be bought/rented with the profits SodaStream has already made from direct sales or stocks. The equipment will be move rather than replace, most likely. All in all it should not be such a dramatic layout of cash. They might even be getting some incentive from Israel since they will be producing jobs for Israelis.

 

[aris2chat]

So you say that Palestinians were are allowed anything other than the mundane low-skill jobs, not the organising or management role, or technical jobs.

Interesting Aris. How can it be that you are so sure that one ethnicity is allocated the menial tasks only?
You are saying that Sodastream operates a racist employment system. Say it's not so, Joe!

Even the wages paid to the workers was higher than a comparable wage in the PA. Workers were getting Israeli wages which are around twice what they would get by a PA company.

Official PA daily lauds Israel s treatment of Palestinian workers - PMW Bulletins

 

[Beelzebub]

Ah, you fail to defend the racism and apartheid Aris.

I suppose that is to be expected, as you are racist and it is indefensible.

 

[Phoenall]

Who is ally ?

And It seems that you don't check your facts .

''
LGA press release 4 February 2014
The majority of councils which had money tied up in the failed Icelandic bank Landsbanki have now recouped the lion's share of their deposits by selling their claims.

The sale of most councils' remaining claims against LBI (formerly Landsbanki Islands hf) in the Winding Up proceedings was organised through a competitive auction to ensure the highest possible price was achieved.

- See more at: Media releases Local Government Association

Don't be coy your posting style is very distinctive, only a chucklehead would do as you are doing. Maybe the nice people on here will freeze you out and send you packing when you start trolling

 

[Phoenall]

Who is ally ?

And It seems that you don't check your facts .

''
LGA press release 4 February 2014
The majority of councils which had money tied up in the failed Icelandic bank Landsbanki have now recouped the lion's share of their deposits by selling their claims.

The sale of most councils' remaining claims against LBI (formerly Landsbanki Islands hf) in the Winding Up proceedings was organised through a competitive auction to ensure the highest possible price was achieved.

- See more at: Media releases Local Government Association

ally - a lie

A TROLL from another board who is a LIAR and will have a hissy fit when he cant get his own way

 

[Phoenall]

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Yep it is ally, eganarg, Winston, George etc. his favourite trick to copy and paste because he does not have the intelligence to write any posts himself.

 

[Challenger]

Two more BDS success stories, the more important of which, is Kuwait:

"The government of Kuwait has announced that it will not deal with 50 companies due to their role in illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory in a move being welcomed by campaigners as a landmark success for the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement.

The blacklisted companies include some of the top corporate targets of the BDS movement, such as Volvo, Heidelberg Cement, Dexia, Pizzarotti, Alstom as well as Veolia. Veolia was recently excluded from a $750m contract, and “all future contracts,” by Kuwaiti authorities over its role in the illegal Jerusalem Light Rail project and other projects that serve illegal Israeli settlements.

The blacklisted companies are expected to be excluded from contracts worth billions of dollars, especially if other Arab countries take similar steps."

BDS Victories Online retailer drops Ahava Kuwait boycotts companies with settlement ties 8211 Mondoweiss

 

[docmauser1]

Two more BDS success stories, the more important of which, is Kuwait:
"The government of Kuwait has announced that it will not deal with 50 companies due to their role in illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory in a move being welcomed by campaigners as a landmark success for the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement.
The blacklisted companies include some of the top corporate targets of the BDS movement, such as Volvo, Heidelberg Cement, Dexia, Pizzarotti, Alstom as well as Veolia. Veolia was recently excluded from a $750m contract, and “all future contracts,” by Kuwaiti authorities over its role in the illegal Jerusalem Light Rail project and other projects that serve illegal Israeli settlements.
The blacklisted companies are expected to be excluded from contracts worth billions of dollars, especially if other Arab countries take similar steps."
BDS Victories Online retailer drops Ahava Kuwait boycotts companies with settlement ties 8211 Mondoweiss

We know that BDShitters hate jews more, than they love palistanians. Old "news", of course.

 

[aris2chat]

Ah, you fail to defend the racism and apartheid Aris.

I suppose that is to be expected, as you are racist and it is indefensible.

It was not apartheid to have bought or leased property in a neighboring country.
It was not apartheid to have tried to help the palestinians by opening a company in the PA
It was not apartheid to pay double the local wage.
It is not apartheid for a company to move.
It was not apartheid to not transpose workers from their own country (or potential country) to another or give foreigners citizenship so they can keep their jobs
It is not apartheid for an Israeli firm to create jobs for Israelis.

If a Japanese company that made car part in asia decided to relocate to Japan, do you really expect them to take all those workers and move them to Japan so they could continue to keep their jobs?
American firm that outsourced work in Mexico relocates to the US to be a "made in the USA" company. Should they bring all those mexicans to the US if they can hire local americans to do the job?

Apartheid? Really?

Where is the segregation or discrimination?

Was it apartheid for American businesses in Cuba in the 50's to not take all those Cubans to the US so they can have jobs? Or was it apartheid for Cuba to not allow Americans to invest in Cuba and create needed jobs and pay the workers double the average Cuban wage? To not allow Americans to stay? Cubans for more than 50 years have risks their lives to come to the US illegally and take steps to become citizens. There are around a million Cubans in the US now. Though most choose to live in Florida in Cuban neighborhoods they can live and work anywhere in the US if they are citizens or have a green card.

and all you can do is insult me and call me a racist?

 

[Beelzebub]

Oh I can do a lot more than that Aris.

But your 'rebuttal' is a load of codswallop.
You want your cake and eat it!

Israel claims a right to all the land of Palestine and yet denies any responsibility for the people there. Get it right Aris, or if you MUST get it wrong at least be consistent. If Israel has a right to build where it wants the people there are of its state and deserve full citizen rights. Trying to take the land but reject the people is your apartheid.

And you really cannot escape that conundrum. Not at least with any honest observer.

 

[docmauser1]

If Israel has a right to build where it wants the people there are of its state and deserve full citizen rights. Trying to take the land but reject the people is your apartheid.

We know, palistanians want a state and Israel too. It's, like one cake too many, of course.

 

[aris2chat]

So you say that Palestinians were are allowed anything other than the mundane low-skill jobs, not the organising or management role, or technical jobs.

Interesting Aris. How can it be that you are so sure that one ethnicity is allocated the menial tasks only?
You are saying that Sodastream operates a racist employment system. Say it's not so, Joe!

And even if there were some key valuable Palestinian workers Israel will prevent the movement of them to support a plant because why? Doesn't Israel claim the right to settle all of Judea and Samaria as part of the same Israel? In which case all inhabitants must be given citizenship, or you would be a racist and apartheid state, surely?

I don't know for sure what the make up is but I doubt that any job beside the top execs are irreplaceable. If SodaStream could train palestinians to work at the factory I expect they can train Israelis to do the same thing.
Even if palestinians were in executive jobs with the company, that does not mean Israel has any reason to grant work permits or offer citizenship to those palestinians so they can work in Israel.
If palestinians were being minimum wage at SodaStream, it was twice what they would get for comparable work with a palestinian firm. There is no incentive nor is it cost efficient to transfer 900 worker and their families to Israel.
If you are so concerned about palestinian jobs, perhaps you should have devoted your time and energy over the last four years to keep SodaStream and other Israeli companies in the WB.
Not just the loss of jobs but the loss of tax revenue and tariffs as well for the WB.

 

[Beelzebub]

Just how did you get that I was concerned about Palestinians jobs?
That is like complaining about the Nazi death camps not having proper tea breaks.

The point is to illustrate what you are trying to not see, that Israel is running an overtly apartheid system, or if you prefer, an utterly illegal colonialist policy towards Palestine. Take your pick.

You really are not following the plot here Aris.

 

[aris2chat]

Arabs states have not allowed Israeli companies to operate or products sold in their countries. Items for private use are confiscated at customs. Companies that operated in Israel have almost always been banned in the arab world
Pepsi was not sold in Israel and Coke was not sold in arab countries. I think that might have changed in the last decade. There was a high black market value on Estee Lauder products because it could not legally be imported or sold in the middle east. When arabs traveled to London, Paris or NY they would buy as much as they could and transfer the product to unmarked or differently marked containers so they could take it back with them.
This is just the way thinks are over there.
When you live there you get used to it.