How does an 'anchor baby' legally anchor his illegal alien parents ?

[ScreamingEagle]

If an illegal alien woman has a baby in the U.S. (who is then considered to be a U.S. citizen) what exactly gives her the right to remain in the U.S. ?

None of the following mechanisms seem to bring in a parent legally....

There are four different mechanisms at work here, as my CIS colleague, Jon Feere, and I see it:

• the most obvious, and the least numerically significant, is the right of a 21-year-old citizen to petition for immigrant status for a non-citizen parent. By definition, this cannot happen until at least 21 years have passed.
• under some quite precise circumstances the presence of a U.S.-born child of an illegal alien, or a green card holder in trouble with the law, can cause a judge to grant legal status to an alien who would not get it otherwise.
• much more important is the hidden, undocumented, and uncounted influence of the presence of a U.S.-citizen child in the household of an illegal alien; officials are less likely to deport the parent of such a child than they are to deport an alien who is otherwise similar, but childless.
• the fourth mechanism may be more important than all the rest, and is the least susceptible to counting. This is the perception in the minds of the illegal alien parents, usually mothers, that somehow the presence of a U.S.-born baby will be helpful to parents in immigration proceedings. That thought process probably works, in most instances, without any detailed knowledge of the three mechanisms noted above.

From a broader policy point of view the presence of the U.S.-citizen child of an illegal alien is part of the whole business of chain migration, a worrisome process to many of us.

Just How Does an Anchor Baby Anchor the Illegal Alien Parent?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Since there is no such thing as an anchor baby, only citizenship, the citizen has the right to stay in America. The government has no right to deport such a citizen because the parents are illegal.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Since there is no such thing as an anchor baby, only citizenship, the citizen has the right to stay in America. The government has no right to deport such a citizen because the parents are illegal.

IF the child is actually a U.S. citizen.....then he has the right to stay.....but his mother does NOT.....she should be deported but should/would she just leave her baby behind...?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Some would argue that.

The proper method would be to give her legitimate status as a temporary resident in America.

 

[Little-Acorn]

If an illegal alien woman has a baby in the U.S. (who is then considered to be a U.S. citizen) what exactly gives her the right to remain in the U.S. ?

Any U.S. citizen with foreign-born parents, when the parents still live in their home country, can petition the govt to issue the parents a green card and visa. And longstanding U.S. laws allow that petition to be granted. Many foreigners come legally into the United States by this method.

In the case of an anchor baby, that's a baby whose mother came illegally into the U.S. and has her baby on this side of the border. By current interpretation of the 14th amendment, that baby is then considered a U.S. citizen, even if the mother immediately goes back to her home country.

When the baby grows up and turns 18, he can then petition the govt to let his parents come in legally, and that petition is often granted, despite the parents' proven violation of immigration law in coming across the border to have the baby in the first place.

Hope this helps you understand.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Since there is no such thing as an anchor baby, only citizenship, the citizen has the right to stay in America. The government has no right to deport such a citizen because the parents are illegal.

IF the child is actually a U.S. citizen.....then he has the right to stay.....but his mother does NOT.....she should be deported but should/would she just leave her baby behind...?

That is the dilemma that T-Rump wants to address by illegally deporting American citizens who are minors because their parents are illegal immigrants.

The INS should determine if the child has a parent who is gainfully employed and then provide them with a work visa and an application for residence.

That is called a path to citizenship and no one on the extremist rightwing wants that to happen even though these illegal immigrants are gainfully employed and will pay taxes like everyone else.

 

[Kondor3]

Since there is no such thing as an anchor baby...

Horseshit.

Anytime that an Illegal Alien gives birth upon US soil while they are in non-compliance with US Immigration Law, that child is an Anchor Baby, in the vernacular usage.

...only citizenship...

Through the back door (an unintended loophole associated with the 14th Amendment).

...the citizen has the right to stay in America...

True.

Unfortunately.

...The government has no right to deport such a citizen because the parents are illegal.

True.

But the government has EVERY right to deport the child's Illegal Alien parent(s).

But they oftentimes do not, owing to humanitarian concerns over the welfare of the child.

Illegal Aliens know this.

They MAY be deported, after giving birth to a child upon US soil, but they are usually NOT.

THAT is what they are counting on, in giving birth upon US soil - not being deported.

The child serves to anchor them upon US soil - therefore, the child is referred to as an Anchor Baby.

True story.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

If an illegal alien woman has a baby in the U.S. (who is then considered to be a U.S. citizen) what exactly gives her the right to remain in the U.S. ?

Any U.S. citizen with foreign-born parents, when the parents still live in their home country, can petition the govt to issue the parents a green card and visa. And longstanding U.S. laws allow that petition to be granted. Many foreigners come legally into the United States by this method.

In the case of an anchor baby, that's a baby whose mother came illegally into the U.S. and has her baby on this side of the border. By current interpretation of the 14th amendment, that baby is then considered a U.S. citizen, even if the mother immediately goes back to her home country.

When the baby grows up and turns 18, he can then petition the govt to let his parents come in legally, and that petition is often granted, despite the parents' proven violation of immigration law in coming across the border to have the baby in the first place.

Hope this helps you understand.

i already understand that.....it is the first item on the list of mechanism in my first post....but that does not address the problem with the illegal alien mother and father and siblings and whoever else already here in the U.S. with the newborn baby.....

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Since there is no such thing as an anchor baby, only citizenship, the citizen has the right to stay in America. The government has no right to deport such a citizen because the parents are illegal.

IF the child is actually a U.S. citizen.....then he has the right to stay.....but his mother does NOT.....she should be deported but should/would she just leave her baby behind...?

That is the dilemma that T-Rump wants to address by illegally deporting American citizens who are minors because their parents are illegal immigrants.

The INS should determine if the child has a parent who is gainfully employed and then provide them with a work visa and an application for residence.

That is called a path to citizenship and no one on the extremist rightwing wants that to happen even though these illegal immigrants are gainfully employed and will pay taxes like everyone else.

how about an orphanage set up for 'anchor babies' if the illegal alien parents want to leave him behind when they are deported back to their own country.....?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Why? Legal citizens are exactly that. They have the right to live here. If they are minors, they have the right to expect their parents to be given work permits and temporary residency.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Since there is no such thing as an anchor baby, only citizenship, the citizen has the right to stay in America. The government has no right to deport such a citizen because the parents are illegal.

IF the child is actually a U.S. citizen.....then he has the right to stay.....but his mother does NOT.....she should be deported but should/would she just leave her baby behind...?

That is the dilemma that T-Rump wants to address by illegally deporting American citizens who are minors because their parents are illegal immigrants.

The INS should determine if the child has a parent who is gainfully employed and then provide them with a work visa and an application for residence.

That is called a path to citizenship and no one on the extremist rightwing wants that to happen even though these illegal immigrants are gainfully employed and will pay taxes like everyone else.

how about an orphanage set up for 'anchor babies' if the illegal alien parents want to leave him behind when they are deported back to their own country.....?

How exactly is that going to win over the "hearts and minds" of the Hispanic voters when you propose turning their children into orphans?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Why? Legal citizens are exactly that. They have the right to live here. If they are minors, they have the right to expect their parents to be given work permits and temporary residency.

where does the law state that....?

 

[B. Kidd]

Interestingly enough, SCOTUS has never ruled that the 14th amendment is applicable to anchor babies. The framers of the 14th clearly stated that it should not apply to illegal alien children which is why they included language about the person being under a 'foreign power'.

Therefore, pass a law or let Trump sign an executive order, then let the Supreme Court decide.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Since there is no such thing as an anchor baby, only citizenship, the citizen has the right to stay in America. The government has no right to deport such a citizen because the parents are illegal.

IF the child is actually a U.S. citizen.....then he has the right to stay.....but his mother does NOT.....she should be deported but should/would she just leave her baby behind...?

That is the dilemma that T-Rump wants to address by illegally deporting American citizens who are minors because their parents are illegal immigrants.

The INS should determine if the child has a parent who is gainfully employed and then provide them with a work visa and an application for residence.

That is called a path to citizenship and no one on the extremist rightwing wants that to happen even though these illegal immigrants are gainfully employed and will pay taxes like everyone else.

how about an orphanage set up for 'anchor babies' if the illegal alien parents want to leave him behind when they are deported back to their own country.....?

How exactly is that going to win over the "hearts and minds" of the Hispanic voters when you propose turning their children into orphans?

it would be the choice of the parents to leave their own kid behind....actually i believe they should be forced to take the kid with them...

i'm not interested in winning over the hearts and minds of illegal aliens.....i'm more interested in saving our country.....

legal immigrants agree...

 

[g5000]

I would like to know how many women came here pregnant, out of the 11 million illegals, and then gave birth here.

I would wager less than two percent.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Trump will not issue an EO because he knows LEO would not obey it.

Congress will never pass such a law.

A minor citizen has every right to expect the government to ensure that is parents are permitted to stay.

there is no 'right' for that.....

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump will not issue an EO because he knows LEO would not obey it.

Congress will never pass such a law.

A minor citizen has every right to expect the government to ensure that is parents are permitted to stay.

there is no 'right' for that.....

The great American majority do not have to win the hearts and minds of the small minority Screaming Eagles.

We simply tell them "no".

 

[B. Kidd]

Trump will not issue an EO because he knows LEO would not obey it.

Congress will never pass such a law.

A minor citizen has every right to expect the government to ensure that is parents are permitted to stay.

Anchor babies have no right to citizenship when both parents are illegals. Those who immigrated legally and were eventually granted citizenship know that it is a right. Too bad that you don't.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump will not issue an EO because he knows LEO would not obey it.

Congress will never pass such a law.

A minor citizen has every right to expect the government to ensure that is parents are permitted to stay.

Anchor babies have no right to citizenship when both parents are illegals. Those who immigrated legally and were eventually granted citizenship know that it is a right. Too bad that you don't.

The GOP far right thinks if they keep yelling they will change folks mind.

You won't change their mind, Kidd, No.

 

[Syriusly]

If an illegal alien woman has a baby in the U.S. (who is then considered to be a U.S. citizen) what exactly gives her the right to remain in the U.S. ?

None of the following mechanisms seem to bring in a parent legally....

She has no right to stay.