How do you people get past the FACT that you are TORTURING CHILDREN?

[Shusha]

U.S. acknowledges Israel’s unlawful killings, excessive force, torture, discrimination against Palestinians
Summary of lengthy U.S. State Department report detailing human rights violations in Israel & occupied territories

In the occupied territories, the State Department reports on Israel’s “abuse of Palestinian detainees, including children, particularly during arrest and interrogation; austere and overcrowded detention facilities; improper security detention procedures; demolition and confiscation of Palestinian property; limitations on freedom of expression, assembly and association; and severe restrictions on Palestinians’ internal and external freedom of movement.”

U.S. acknowledges Israel’s unlawful killings, excessive force, torture, discrimination against Palestinians

From the report:

Human rights problems in the parts of the West Bank under PA control included abuse and mistreatment of detainees, poor and overcrowded detention facilities, prolonged detention, and infringements on privacy rights. Restrictions on freedom of speech, press, and assembly continued. There were limits on freedom of association and movement. Corruption, violence against women, and societal discrimination were serious problems. At times, the PA failed to condemn incidents of anti-Semitic expression and embraced as “martyrs” individuals who died while carrying out attacks on Israeli civilians. Abuse of children and discrimination against persons with disabilities also were serious problems. Discrimination based on sexual orientation and HIV/AIDS status persisted. There were some limits on worker rights, and there was forced labor. Child labor, including forced labor, remained a serious problem.

Human rights abuses under Hamas included security forces killing, torturing, arbitrarily detaining, and harassing opponents, including Fatah members, and other Palestinians with impunity. Terrorist organizations and militant factions in the Gaza Strip launched rocket and mortar attacks against civilian targets in Israel, and they did so at or near civilian locations in Gaza. Gaza-based civil rights organizations reported authorities held prisoners in poor conditions in detention facilities in the Gaza Strip, and Hamas publicly executed a number of persons without trial. Hamas also infringed on privacy rights. Hamas restricted the freedoms of speech, press, assembly, association, religion, and movement of Gaza Strip residents. Discrimination against women and domestic violence were serious problems. Abuse of children and discrimination against persons with disabilities were problems. Hamas frequently promoted anti-Semitism. Discrimination based on sexual orientation and HIV/AIDS status persisted. Restrictions on worker rights continued. Forced labor, including by children, occurred.

A comparison of the physical conditions of prisons in all three areas:

Physical conditions: ...Most PA prisons continued to be crowded and lacked ventilation, heating, cooling, and lighting systems conforming to international standards. ...

Conditions in detention facilities in the Gaza Strip were reportedly below international standards. Human Rights Watch (HRW) reported that prisoners in Gaza lacked potable water, food, and other basic necessities. ...

IDF detention centers for security detainees were less likely than Israeli civilian prisons to meet international standards....

 

[montelatici]

And? Does that contradict the report's conclusion that Palestinian children are tortured by the Israelis?

 

[Shusha]

And? Does that contradict the report's conclusion that Palestinian children are tortured by the Israelis?

The report does not conclude any such thing. The report is written in such a way as to present allegations and claims by various NGO's and counter-claims by the governments involved. The section c. Torture, and Other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment states:

...Palestinian detainees held by PA security forces registered complaints of abuse and torture with the ICHR. Reported abuses by PA authorities in the West Bank included forcing prisoners, including persons accused of affiliation with Hamas, to sit in a painful position for long periods; beating; punching; flogging; intimidation; and psychological pressure. ...

Detainees held by Hamas filed claims of torture and abuse with the ICHR. ... Palestinian human rights organizations, including the ICHR, contended that torture methods during detention included beating of hands and legs, as well as the use of sticks, insults, humiliation, and sleep deprivation. ...

Human rights organizations such as the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel (PCATI), DCI-Palestine, and Military Court Watch (MCW) reported that “physical interrogation methods” permitted by Israeli law and used by Israeli security personnel could amount to torture. The methods included beatings, forcing an individual to hold a stress position for long periods, and painful pressure from shackles or restraints applied to the forearms. Israeli officials stated they did not use techniques that could amount to torture. Israeli and Palestinian NGOs continued to criticize these and other Israeli detention practices they termed abusive, including isolation, sleep deprivation, and psychological abuse, such as threats to interrogate spouses, siblings, or elderly parents or to demolish family homes.



My point is not that Israel can not improve. She most certainly can. And she has organizations (like the one mentioned above) to monitor and call for this improvement. She also has a government which co-operates with NGOs, permits inspections and issues responses. Further, she complies with international standards and holds individuals acting inappropriately or illegally responsible for their actions.



In contrast, prisoners in Gaza don't have water, adequate food or sanitary facilities. And are executed without trial. It just seems to me that if one were truly concerned with humanitarian treatment rather than just demonizing Israel, the conversation would be much more balanced.

 

[montelatici]

The report uses the same sources for the Gaza, you can't have it both ways. In any case, this is a U.S. State Department report, it has to sugar coat any criticism of Israel. The truth is almost certainly far worse as regards Israel's torture of Palestinian children.

 

[louie888]

U.S. acknowledges Israel’s unlawful killings, excessive force, torture, discrimination against Palestinians
Summary of lengthy U.S. State Department report detailing human rights violations in Israel & occupied territories

In the occupied territories, the State Department reports on Israel’s “abuse of Palestinian detainees, including children, particularly during arrest and interrogation; austere and overcrowded detention facilities; improper security detention procedures; demolition and confiscation of Palestinian property; limitations on freedom of expression, assembly and association; and severe restrictions on Palestinians’ internal and external freedom of movement.”

U.S. acknowledges Israel’s unlawful killings, excessive force, torture, discrimination against Palestinians

From the report:

Human rights problems in the parts of the West Bank under PA control included abuse and mistreatment of detainees, poor and overcrowded detention facilities, prolonged detention, and infringements on privacy rights. Restrictions on freedom of speech, press, and assembly continued. There were limits on freedom of association and movement. Corruption, violence against women, and societal discrimination were serious problems. At times, the PA failed to condemn incidents of anti-Semitic expression and embraced as “martyrs” individuals who died while carrying out attacks on Israeli civilians. Abuse of children and discrimination against persons with disabilities also were serious problems. Discrimination based on sexual orientation and HIV/AIDS status persisted. There were some limits on worker rights, and there was forced labor. Child labor, including forced labor, remained a serious problem.

Human rights abuses under Hamas included security forces killing, torturing, arbitrarily detaining, and harassing opponents, including Fatah members, and other Palestinians with impunity. Terrorist organizations and militant factions in the Gaza Strip launched rocket and mortar attacks against civilian targets in Israel, and they did so at or near civilian locations in Gaza. Gaza-based civil rights organizations reported authorities held prisoners in poor conditions in detention facilities in the Gaza Strip, and Hamas publicly executed a number of persons without trial. Hamas also infringed on privacy rights. Hamas restricted the freedoms of speech, press, assembly, association, religion, and movement of Gaza Strip residents. Discrimination against women and domestic violence were serious problems. Abuse of children and discrimination against persons with disabilities were problems. Hamas frequently promoted anti-Semitism. Discrimination based on sexual orientation and HIV/AIDS status persisted. Restrictions on worker rights continued. Forced labor, including by children, occurred.

A comparison of the physical conditions of prisons in all three areas:

Physical conditions: ...Most PA prisons continued to be crowded and lacked ventilation, heating, cooling, and lighting systems conforming to international standards. ...

Conditions in detention facilities in the Gaza Strip were reportedly below international standards. Human Rights Watch (HRW) reported that prisoners in Gaza lacked potable water, food, and other basic necessities. ...

IDF detention centers for security detainees were less likely than Israeli civilian prisons to meet international standards....

Being the lying sack of vomit that you are, I feel compelled to inform our readers of the truth here.

Israeli soldiers, police and Israel Security Agency (ISA) officers subjected Palestinian detainees, including children, to torture and other ill-treatment with impunity, particularly on arrest and during interrogation. Reported methods included beatings, slapping, painful shackling, sleep deprivation, use of stress positions and threats....
Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories 2016/2017

Why lie? Your lies are so easy to debunk. It just makes you look stupid.

 

[Hollie]

U.S. acknowledges Israel’s unlawful killings, excessive force, torture, discrimination against Palestinians
Summary of lengthy U.S. State Department report detailing human rights violations in Israel & occupied territories

In the occupied territories, the State Department reports on Israel’s “abuse of Palestinian detainees, including children, particularly during arrest and interrogation; austere and overcrowded detention facilities; improper security detention procedures; demolition and confiscation of Palestinian property; limitations on freedom of expression, assembly and association; and severe restrictions on Palestinians’ internal and external freedom of movement.”

U.S. acknowledges Israel’s unlawful killings, excessive force, torture, discrimination against Palestinians

From the report:

Human rights problems in the parts of the West Bank under PA control included abuse and mistreatment of detainees, poor and overcrowded detention facilities, prolonged detention, and infringements on privacy rights. Restrictions on freedom of speech, press, and assembly continued. There were limits on freedom of association and movement. Corruption, violence against women, and societal discrimination were serious problems. At times, the PA failed to condemn incidents of anti-Semitic expression and embraced as “martyrs” individuals who died while carrying out attacks on Israeli civilians. Abuse of children and discrimination against persons with disabilities also were serious problems. Discrimination based on sexual orientation and HIV/AIDS status persisted. There were some limits on worker rights, and there was forced labor. Child labor, including forced labor, remained a serious problem.

Human rights abuses under Hamas included security forces killing, torturing, arbitrarily detaining, and harassing opponents, including Fatah members, and other Palestinians with impunity. Terrorist organizations and militant factions in the Gaza Strip launched rocket and mortar attacks against civilian targets in Israel, and they did so at or near civilian locations in Gaza. Gaza-based civil rights organizations reported authorities held prisoners in poor conditions in detention facilities in the Gaza Strip, and Hamas publicly executed a number of persons without trial. Hamas also infringed on privacy rights. Hamas restricted the freedoms of speech, press, assembly, association, religion, and movement of Gaza Strip residents. Discrimination against women and domestic violence were serious problems. Abuse of children and discrimination against persons with disabilities were problems. Hamas frequently promoted anti-Semitism. Discrimination based on sexual orientation and HIV/AIDS status persisted. Restrictions on worker rights continued. Forced labor, including by children, occurred.

A comparison of the physical conditions of prisons in all three areas:

Physical conditions: ...Most PA prisons continued to be crowded and lacked ventilation, heating, cooling, and lighting systems conforming to international standards. ...

Conditions in detention facilities in the Gaza Strip were reportedly below international standards. Human Rights Watch (HRW) reported that prisoners in Gaza lacked potable water, food, and other basic necessities. ...

IDF detention centers for security detainees were less likely than Israeli civilian prisons to meet international standards....

Being the lying sack of vomit that you are, I feel compelled to inform our readers of the truth here.

Israeli soldiers, police and Israel Security Agency (ISA) officers subjected Palestinian detainees, including children, to torture and other ill-treatment with impunity, particularly on arrest and during interrogation. Reported methods included beatings, slapping, painful shackling, sleep deprivation, use of stress positions and threats....
Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories 2016/2017

Why lie? Your lies are so easy to debunk. It just makes you look stupid.

The good news is that you Islamist "men" are still free to beat and kill your women with impunity. Good enough for the 7th century, good enough for today.


Violence against women and girls

There were new reports of violence against women, particularly within Palestinian communities in Israel. Activists reported that at least 21 women were killed by partners or family members during the year. Some women were reportedly killed by abusive partners after police failed to afford them adequate protection.

 

[louie888]

WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH israel TORTURING CHILDREN. It just provides more evidence of you psychopaths who support it!

 

[Hollie]

WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH israel TORTURING CHILDREN. It just provides more evidence of you psychopaths who support it!

IT WAS IN THE POSTED LINK.

DO YOU BELIEVE ISLAMICS BEATING AND KILLING THEIR WOMEN (THEIR PROPERTY ), IS NOT TORTURE?

 

[Shusha]

Why lie? Your lies are so easy to debunk. It just makes you look stupid.

You are hilarious. I quoted the report verbatim. How can it be a lie to say "the report says" and then quote the report. Verbatim.

 

[louie888]

Why lie? Your lies are so easy to debunk. It just makes you look stupid.

You are hilarious. I quoted the report verbatim. How can it be a lie to say "the report says" and then quote the report. Verbatim.

So, how many pages in did it take you to FINALLY ADMIT THAT ISRAEL TORTURES CHILDREN?

 

[Shusha]

Israel does not torture children.

 

[Shusha]

Now, that doesn't mean there have not been instances of mistreatment of minor children taken in to Israeli custody in some individual and isolated cases, correctly handled by Israel's judicial system. It also doesn't mean that there isn't systemic discrimination in the Israeli prison system, especially with respect to non-citizens.

 

[louie888]

Israel does not torture children.

Israeli soldiers, police and Israel Security Agency (ISA) officers subjected Palestinian detainees, including children, to torture and other ill-treatment with impunity, particularly on arrest and during interrogation. Reported methods included beatings, slapping, painful shackling, sleep deprivation, use of stress positions and threats....
Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories 2016/2017

 

[louie888]

Israel does not torture children.

How can you say that? That's just abhorrent.

 

[Roudy]

Israel does not torture children.

How can you say that? That's just abhorrent.

Link?

 

[montelatici]

Israel does not torture children.

Of course Israel tortures Palestinian children. What planet do you come from?

"The report found that among those tortured and detained under administrative orders were also children. Methods of torture included beatings, painful shackling and sleep deprivation. Among 110 Palestinians killed last year by Israeli forces, the report charged, some posed no threat to life and thus were shot unlawfully."
read more: Israel tortures Palestinian children, Amnesty report says

 

[Roudy]

Pffft! Palestinians have a habit of calling young terrorist recruits "children".

Other countries in the world would be killing these terrorists and would be terrorists.

 

[louie888]

Israel does not torture children.

Another proven lie, thanks.

 

[louie888]

Israel does not torture children.

Denial or something darker?

 

[louie888]

Sorry beat the old, dead horse here, but...

Israel does not torture children.

A film which has been produced by a group of Australian journalists has sparked an international outcry against Israel after it explicitly detailed Tel Aviv's use of torture against Palestinian children....
Australian film 'Stone Cold Justice' on Israel's torture of Palestinian children