How about them republican amendments to Obama’s health care bill?

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    Check this out

    This is the kind of reporting I like. No, not because it's liberal. I'm trying to base my arguments on facts. Facts like the ones in this article.



    So for anyone claiming BO hasn't tried to be bi-partisan... read the article.

    I love facts.
     
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
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    GOP has done anything they could to obstruct passage of the bill.

    Ironically, if any Republican had the balls to act on what is best for his constituents, he could have gotten any desired clauses put into the bill. Tort Reform, tax breaks, interstate competition all could have made it in if the Republicans were willing to play ball.

    But they didn't want Obama to get credit for passing Healthcare
     
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    "Mr. Obama on Sunday clarified that he is so far not willing to consider capping malpractice judgments, a reform proposal consistently put forward by Republicans."

    Obama Clarifies Position on Tort Reform on "60 Minutes" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
     
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    Oh you mean like Stupak getting anti-abortion into the final bill? And did that work out for him?
     
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    Obama won't support Tort reform because he needs the trial lawyers.

    I don't support tort reform because: a.) it's a band-aid for a bullet wound and b.) I feel the same way about tort caps as mandatory sentences - the world is not a black and white place, and there's no one-size-fits-all answer.
     
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    Perhaps you need someone to act in your best interests but personally, I am quite capable of making my own decisions. I do NOT need any fucking politician to 'act on what is best for' me, as a constituent.

    The fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals want someone to take responsibility for them, conservatives want to take responsibility for themselves.
     
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    I agree. Tort reform is great until you are the one that is injured or crippled. Conservatives loe to harp on the million dollar judgements but they never reveal the pain and lifetime discomfort someone has to go through to justify a million dollar judgement.

    If I had a choice I would rather be healthy and forego a million dollar judgement
     
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    I'm glad you don't want anyone to protect your interests ...

    Sure you don't mind if your boss sexually harasses you, if you work in an environment that will eventually kill you, sure you don't mind if a man makes twice what you do, if the water you drink or the food you buy is contaminated, if your insurance company drops you when you get sick...

    All things the government currently protects
     
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    We've been over this again and again... You can't make a big ole pile of shit palatable, and it doesn't matter how many cherries you put on top.

    It's not at all unusual for legislators to add amendments to bills that they never intend to vote for. Frankly, it slows the process down, allows more time for the public to weigh in, and if everything goes to pot and it gets through anyway, it's hopefully a little better for the changes.

    A bill isn't "bipartisan" because of its amendments. Its "bipartisan" when its passed by both parties. And it's not supposed to be easy. It's vigorous debate and genuine consensus which gives us a better quality product. There's no point in having a bicameral legislature when both Houses do the same thing.... majority rules. The Senate is supposed to be putting the brakes on the fad of the moment and ensuring that we think things through. Constitutional Amendments are supposed to require even greater consensus, and truly without an enumerated power authorizing Congress to run our healthcare,system, that's what should be required here.
     

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