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And lets not forget angelheart their ideas have been what gave us this huge mess.
I for one will not be fooled by the GOP. They can oppose the stimulus and try to portray themselves as champions of limited government, but their recent history proves otherwise. The headline should read "GOP will oppose this particular version of the stimulus package".
I know this is conjecture on my part, but I seriously doubt the GOP would oppose a stimulus package if McCain had won the Presidency and the GOP hadn't have taken a colossal bitch-slapping in the Congressional races.
Goodbye Republican Party. When this bill begins to help our economy, curb unemployment and sends the market over 9500, you're not only going to lose 2010, you're going to lose 2012.
Boehner to GOP: Vote against stimulus - Patrick O'Connor and Jonathan Martin - Politico.com
Here are some additional fun facts of the Pork, i mean, Stimulus Package...
In 1993, the unemployment was virtually the same as the rate today (around 7%). Yet, President Clintons proposed stimulus legislation *only* contained $16 billion in spending
The total cost of this one piece of legislation is almost as much as the annual discretionary budget for the entire federal government.
This legislation nears a trillion dollars. President Reagan said the best way to understand a trillion dollars is to imagine a crisp, new stack of $1000 bills.
If you had a stack four inches high, youd be a millionaire. A trillion-dollar stack of $1000 bills would measure just over 63 miles high.
In $20 bills, a trillion dollar stack would be 3150 miles high. Thats about the distance between DC and Trujillo, Peru.
President-elect Obama has said that his proposed stimulus legislation will create or save 3 million jobs. This means that this legislation will spend about $275,000 per job. The average household income in the U.S. is $42,000 a year.
This bill provides enough spending to give every man, woman, and child in America $2,700.
This bill will cost each and every household $6,700 in additional debt, paid for by our children and grandchildren.
Although this legislation has been billed and described as a transportation and infrastructure investment package, but only three percent ($30 billion) of this package is for road and highway spending.
Much of the funding within the proposed stimulus package will go to programs which already have large, unexpended balances.
For example, the draft bill provides $1 billion for Community Development Block Grants (CDBG), which already has $16 billion on hand.
And, this year, Congress has plans to rescind $9 billion in highway funding that the states have not yet used.
Deficit spending will not expand the economy. If that were true, then the current $1.2 trillion deficit -- the largest in history -- would already be rescuing the economy.
$800 billion more will not change that.
Trade groups state that every $1 billion in highway stimulus can be spent creating 34,779 new construction jobs.
But Congress must first borrow that $1 billion out of the private sector.
The private sector then loses or forgoes roughly the same number of jobs.
Japan responded to a 1990 recession by passing 10 stimulus bills over 8 years (building the largest national debt in the industrialized world). Their economy remained stagnant and their per capita income went from the second highest in the world to the tenth highest.
Work is slow today, so i had time to post this, go figure ..........
are you fucking serious???????????????In attacking the stimulus program, the Republicans seemed to be asserting that the economy President George Bush handed over to his successor (CLINTON) was in good shape, three previous years of anemic growth notwithstanding. CAN YOU BELIEVE THEM?
Despite the Republican criticisms, Administration officials made it clear today that they were still tilting heavily in favor of a stimulus program.
Is that how any of you remember 1990-92? LOL.
I heard the House GOP fell in love with Obama. They all got shivers down their legs.
But then they could not show weakness and give in, so they sent him a message that they can not be sweet talked into doing the right thing for 90% of the American people. They only work for the top 10%.
Remember that. Whenever the GOP talk about the American people, they are referring to the top 10% richest and the Corporations.
They absolutely NEVER mean the bottom 90%. To them, we are just there for them to use. If any of us become rich, we are more than welcome to join them, but until then, we don't matter. They don't even think we should vote.
I heard the House GOP fell in love with Obama. They all got shivers down their legs.
But then they could not show weakness and give in, so they sent him a message that they can not be sweet talked into doing the right thing for 90% of the American people. They only work for the top 10%.
Remember that. Whenever the GOP talk about the American people, they are referring to the top 10% richest and the Corporations.
They absolutely NEVER mean the bottom 90%. To them, we are just there for them to use. If any of us become rich, we are more than welcome to join them, but until then, we don't matter. They don't even think we should vote.
How exactly does this horrendous legislation help the American people?
are you fucking serious???????????????In attacking the stimulus program, the Republicans seemed to be asserting that the economy President George Bush handed over to his successor (CLINTON) was in good shape, three previous years of anemic growth notwithstanding. CAN YOU BELIEVE THEM?
Despite the Republican criticisms, Administration officials made it clear today that they were still tilting heavily in favor of a stimulus program.
Is that how any of you remember 1990-92? LOL.
opposing that boondoggle is part of what got the GOP majorities in BOTH bodies of congress
you are a complete and total fucking moron with your revisionist history
youn are a fucking CLOWNare you fucking serious???????????????In attacking the stimulus program, the Republicans seemed to be asserting that the economy President George Bush handed over to his successor (CLINTON) was in good shape, three previous years of anemic growth notwithstanding. CAN YOU BELIEVE THEM?
Despite the Republican criticisms, Administration officials made it clear today that they were still tilting heavily in favor of a stimulus program.
Is that how any of you remember 1990-92? LOL.
opposing that boondoggle is part of what got the GOP majorities in BOTH bodies of congress
you are a complete and total fucking moron with your revisionist history
And between them and the Centrist Clinton, they set the ball in motion to turn America into a fascist state.
This is one of the reasons I didn't vote for Hillary. She's a sellout too. Maybe a little better than the GOP, but Bill Clinton served the rich bankers too much.
1. Raised the interest that they could charge us.
2. Made it harder for people like us to file bankruptsy but easier for the rich
3. NAFTA and CAFTA
4. Deregulated the media
5. He appointed people that the FEDS told him to appoint.
People who say this economy is clinton's fault are a joke. You are a joke. Watch Freedom to Fascism. Until you do, you remain under informed.
youn are a fucking CLOWNare you fucking serious???????????????
opposing that boondoggle is part of what got the GOP majorities in BOTH bodies of congress
you are a complete and total fucking moron with your revisionist history
And between them and the Centrist Clinton, they set the ball in motion to turn America into a fascist state.
This is one of the reasons I didn't vote for Hillary. She's a sellout too. Maybe a little better than the GOP, but Bill Clinton served the rich bankers too much.
1. Raised the interest that they could charge us.
2. Made it harder for people like us to file bankruptsy but easier for the rich
3. NAFTA and CAFTA
4. Deregulated the media
5. He appointed people that the FEDS told him to appoint.
People who say this economy is clinton's fault are a joke. You are a joke. Watch Freedom to Fascism. Until you do, you remain under informed.
no one here takes you any more seriously than they do the moron troofers
you show over and over how clueless and out of touch you are
What kills me about this bill is that it instantly sends almost a trillion dollar into the crapper, just like the last pointless stimulus bill. My family got a check for $1500. Big f'n whoop. That's hardly half of what I'm paying on my mortgage to try and pay if off early. That's about 2.5 months of good childcare. That's not even a decent used car. Who cares?
Yaay we are gonna build bridges and roads!!!! Woo hoo. I know a lot of highly educated guys with engineering and other advanced degrees that are out of work right now looking forward to digging ditches...yeah right.
oh i dont doubt you morons laugh in PM'syoun are a fucking CLOWNAnd between them and the Centrist Clinton, they set the ball in motion to turn America into a fascist state.
This is one of the reasons I didn't vote for Hillary. She's a sellout too. Maybe a little better than the GOP, but Bill Clinton served the rich bankers too much.
1. Raised the interest that they could charge us.
2. Made it harder for people like us to file bankruptsy but easier for the rich
3. NAFTA and CAFTA
4. Deregulated the media
5. He appointed people that the FEDS told him to appoint.
People who say this economy is clinton's fault are a joke. You are a joke. Watch Freedom to Fascism. Until you do, you remain under informed.
no one here takes you any more seriously than they do the moron troofers
you show over and over how clueless and out of touch you are
No Dive. No one takes you seriously. We privately email about you all the time. We laugh at you Dave.
Anyways, I'm trying to get us to stop fighting. Because you are not the enemy. You are just one of the poor morons the enemy has convinced to argue with me.
Like abortion, guns, god, gays, etc.
To give the stimulous, to not give it, more tax breaks, sending jobs overseas, doing away with unions.
It is all irrelivent if you don't do away with the Federal Reserve. They own this country.
So you can go back to arguing about things they LOVE to hear you argue about. Shit that doesn't matter. Should they vote on the stimulous package, should they give phone companies retroactive immunity, should we torture, did saddam have wmd's, etc.
YOU ARE AN ASS CLOWN DAVE.
you are PROOF of the dumbing downThey are dumbing down America.
If we don't manufacture anything, then we don't need engineers.
Why pay your white American buddies when they can hire indians or chinese for less? Last year Bill Gates went to Washington to ask for MORE F1 worker visas. (may not be called F1, but you get the point).
He says he can't find enough Americans to do the IT work. He is a liar! If it were true, companies like IBM wouldn't have cut their IT salaries by 15%.
That's right, white collar is next. Oh you thought they were only fucking with blue collar workers? Oh no. Divide and concur. We're next.
