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First, Happy New Year Chanel!
My neighbor across the street smokes on her front porch and it ends up smelling up our front porch. That means the cancer causing agents are visiting me too.
I think employers are making decisions about where they stand and employees or consumers can do the same. Thing is, I don't see where nonsmoking food establishments are hurting for business. Maybe bars and that might be the point that there is government over reach. We certainly want some type of reasonable limit here. Like some have mentioned already and rightfully so, does it extend to sugar use, how much you exercise or whatever?
(CNN) -- A Pennsylvania hospital is expected to begin screening job applicants for signs of nicotine early next year, claiming it will not hire smokers, a hospital spokeswoman said Friday.
Geisinger Health System -- a facility located in the eastern town of Danville -- will institute its no-nicotine policy on February 1, 2012, said Marcy Marshall.
Applicants that test positive will be offered help to quit and are encouraged to re-apply after six months, she said.
Smoking has been banned on Geisinger hospital grounds since 2007, added Marshall, who said the new program is part of a plan to make the hospital staff smoke free.
Secondhand smoke, she noted, will not result in a positive test.
Hospital: Smokers need not apply - CNN.com
I remember being a nursing student thinking I would die of suffocation from the staff smoking in the tiny report room. In those days staff smoked on the units. I wasn't sure how I would make it. But I moved to Nashville where Vanderbilt had just become a 'non smoking' facility. Smoking was permitted outside only. Soon other facilities followed.
Not surprised about this bit of news. The smoker is not particularly appealing to employers on various levels. This, no doubt, has more to do with the cost of employee health care than anything else.
Sad to say this is a slippery slope. It opens the door to not hire people for personal choices that do not effect work performance or private practices.
However on a different note about smokers and work. At one of my jobs everyone would go out for "smoking breaks" ...at 15-20 minutes at a time it was more then an hour per person. The non smokers were left holding the bag and doing more then their fair share of the work taking up the slack of the smokers. It was effecting productivity. I put an end to "smoking breaks". If they wanted to smoke they had to do it at lunch or on their regular breaks.
First, Happy New Year Chanel!
My neighbor across the street smokes on her front porch and it ends up smelling up our front porch. That means the cancer causing agents are visiting me too.
And our neighbors use fabric softener and dryer sheets that reek up the whole neighborhood every time they do their laundry. The carcinogens in that shit are waaaay worse than second hand cigarette smoke. Look it up.
But whatcha gonna do?
So your company recruits people they know will push that cost up to the full $400K. Bravo! Less taxpayers have to cary!
Wow, you just drew a conclusion that was completely unrelated to anything I said.
That's how you made it sound. Bravo for your company!
Hospital: Smokers need not apply - CNN.com
I remember being a nursing student thinking I would die of suffocation from the staff smoking in the tiny report room. In those days staff smoked on the units. I wasn't sure how I would make it. But I moved to Nashville where Vanderbilt had just become a 'non smoking' facility. Smoking was permitted outside only. Soon other facilities followed.
Not surprised about this bit of news. The smoker is not particularly appealing to employers on various levels. This, no doubt, has more to do with the cost of employee health care than anything else.
Sad to say this is a slippery slope. It opens the door to not hire people for personal choices that do not effect work performance or private practices.
However on a different note about smokers and work. At one of my jobs everyone would go out for "smoking breaks" ...at 15-20 minutes at a time it was more then an hour per person. The non smokers were left holding the bag and doing more then their fair share of the work taking up the slack of the smokers. It was effecting productivity. I put an end to "smoking breaks". If they wanted to smoke they had to do it at lunch or on their regular breaks.
Yeah, that's how it is where I work, and it's annoying...I've joked that I should take up smoking so that I can have more breaks and go out to get sunshine and "fresh air".
Sad to say this is a slippery slope. It opens the door to not hire people for personal choices that do not effect work performance or private practices.
However on a different note about smokers and work. At one of my jobs everyone would go out for "smoking breaks" ...at 15-20 minutes at a time it was more then an hour per person. The non smokers were left holding the bag and doing more then their fair share of the work taking up the slack of the smokers. It was effecting productivity. I put an end to "smoking breaks". If they wanted to smoke they had to do it at lunch or on their regular breaks.
Yeah, that's how it is where I work, and it's annoying...I've joked that I should take up smoking so that I can have more breaks and go out to get sunshine and "fresh air".
Some of the non-smokers where I work join me on my smoke breaks. They do it for sunshine and fresh air. (cept they don't join me when it's too hot, too cold and/or raining/snowing)
Yeah, that's how it is where I work, and it's annoying...I've joked that I should take up smoking so that I can have more breaks and go out to get sunshine and "fresh air".
Some of the non-smokers where I work join me on my smoke breaks. They do it for sunshine and fresh air. (cept they don't join me when it's too hot, too cold and/or raining/snowing)
I would love to be able to say that I'm having a wicked craving for some sunshine and step outside several times a day, but that would most certainly be frowned upon...addictions to sunshine are just not tolerated.
Some of the non-smokers where I work join me on my smoke breaks. They do it for sunshine and fresh air. (cept they don't join me when it's too hot, too cold and/or raining/snowing)
I would love to be able to say that I'm having a wicked craving for some sunshine and step outside several times a day, but that would most certainly be frowned upon...addictions to sunshine are just not tolerated.
Holy crap.
Sunshine started this thread.
It's almost like a porn thread when you read the last few posts.
(CNN) -- A Pennsylvania hospital is expected to begin screening job applicants for signs of nicotine early next year, claiming it will not hire smokers, a hospital spokeswoman said Friday.
Geisinger Health System -- a facility located in the eastern town of Danville -- will institute its no-nicotine policy on February 1, 2012, said Marcy Marshall.
Applicants that test positive will be offered help to quit and are encouraged to re-apply after six months, she said.
Smoking has been banned on Geisinger hospital grounds since 2007, added Marshall, who said the new program is part of a plan to make the hospital staff smoke free.
Secondhand smoke, she noted, will not result in a positive test.
Hospital: Smokers need not apply - CNN.com
I remember being a nursing student thinking I would die of suffocation from the staff smoking in the tiny report room. In those days staff smoked on the units. I wasn't sure how I would make it. But I moved to Nashville where Vanderbilt had just become a 'non smoking' facility. Smoking was permitted outside only. Soon other facilities followed.
Not surprised about this bit of news. The smoker is not particularly appealing to employers on various levels. This, no doubt, has more to do with the cost of employee health care than anything else.
Sad to say this is a slippery slope. It opens the door to not hire people for personal choices that do not effect work performance or private practices.
However on a different note about smokers and work. At one of my jobs everyone would go out for "smoking breaks" ...at 15-20 minutes at a time it was more then an hour per person. The non smokers were left holding the bag and doing more then their fair share of the work taking up the slack of the smokers. It was effecting productivity. I put an end to "smoking breaks". If they wanted to smoke they had to do it at lunch or on their regular breaks.
First, Happy New Year Chanel!
My neighbor across the street smokes on her front porch and it ends up smelling up our front porch. That means the cancer causing agents are visiting me too.
And our neighbors use fabric softener and dryer sheets that reek up the whole neighborhood every time they do their laundry. The carcinogens in that shit are waaaay worse than second hand cigarette smoke. Look it up.
But whatcha gonna do?
For the new study, which focuses on chemicals emitted through laundry vents, researchers first purchased and pre-rinsed new, organic cotton towels. They asked two homeowners to volunteer their washers and dryers, cleaned the inside of the machines with vinegar, and ran full cycles using only water to eliminate as much residue as possible.
At the first home, they ran a regular laundry cycle and analyzed the vent fumes for three cases: once with no products, once with the leading brand of scented liquid laundry detergent, and finally with both the detergent and a leading brand of scented dryer sheets. A canister placed inside the dryer vent opening captured the exhaust 15 minutes into each drying cycle. Researchers then repeated the procedure with a different washer and dryer at a second home.
Analysis of the captured gases found more than 25 volatile organic compounds, including seven hazardous air pollutants, coming out of the vents. Of those, two chemicals acetaldehyde and benzene are classified by the Environmental Protection Agency as carcinogens, for which the agency has established no safe exposure level.
Scented laundry products emit hazardous chemicals through dryer vents University of Washington - washington.edu
I didn't know that Mani, thanks.
I'd be ok with this flavor of discrimination if all flavors were allowed. But I think it's wrong to allow this but not allow discrimination against homosexuals for example.
I'd be ok with this flavor of discrimination if all flavors were allowed. But I think it's wrong to allow this but not allow discrimination against homosexuals for example.
LOL.
I'd be ok with this flavor of discrimination if all flavors were allowed. But I think it's wrong to allow this but not allow discrimination against homosexuals for example.
LOL.
Homosexual men are more likely to contract HIV which makes their expected health care costs higher than a straight men, all else equal. Why is that different than this?
LOL.
Homosexual men are more likely to contract HIV which makes their expected health care costs higher than a straight men, all else equal. Why is that different than this?
OK, I'll just have to brace for the ass kicking I'll get over this: I don't really think people who are HIV positive should be working in heatlh care settings that are likely to result in patient exposure to the disease. When this disease was new, I was new in health care then, but I can tell you that people went completely ape shit over it. IMO the courts bent over too far backward and ignored the health risks to those of us who don't have the disease. I have had my share of needle sticks and blood exposures, and so I know how lucky I have been. In the early days of my psych career when I worked on inpatient psych units I had to give injections to HIV+ patients who were struggling and being held down by other staff. Real risky for me. I know I am lucky. But if I had ever tested positive from a needle stick I would have found some other area to work very quickly that would not result in possible exposure of the patients. It's just the decent thing to do. However, there are a lot of people who just aren't interested in the decent thing to do and want their way regardless who it hurts!
