I don't know if Flynn has any desire to remain in these guy's gun sights. At most Trump will be in power 5 more years and he has no apparent political heirs. I can't think of anyone who can step into Trump's shoes and continue the fight. Cruz to some extent, but when Trump was crushing him, Cruz unraveled a bit, whereas Trump stays on very effective offense even when blind-sided, like with the Billy Bush tape. I know of no one else who could have survived that. The more Trump is attacked, the more he is energized, on some level he almost seems to thrive on it. That is very unusual.The Deep State HAD to take out Flynn:No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.
The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections
The first thing to understand about American Foreign Policy Establishment is that they are ALL interventionist Utopians who believe that by our interfering with the internal affairs of other nations that we can bring about an end of history utopia. Whether it's Clinton, Bush, Obama, McCain or Romney, you get the same meddling Utopians and they are a serious threat to the world.
This is hard to explain to people who donât understand the depth of American narcissism.
Consider this conversation that Andrew McCarthy relayed:
âGeneral Petraeus created ISIS in order to destabilize China,â a senior Chinese military official informed me over dinner in 2015. The individual in question appears, incidentally, as one of Chinaâs masterminds of so-called unrestricted warfare in Michael Pillsburyâs now-celebrated book The Hundred Year Marathon.
âThatâs ridiculous,â I replied.
âIt is not ridiculous in the least,â the Chinese soldier continued in the benevolent tone in which one instructs low-aptitude recruits. âThere are ISIS leaders whom we have identified and tracked who were trained by Petraeus during the âSurge,ââ the counter-insurgency campaign that David Petraeus conducted in 2008-2009 to contain a Sunni rebellion against the majority Shiite government that the United States had helped bring to power in 2007.
I tried to explain: âThis was a comedy of errors. The neoconservatives in the Bush administration believed in majority rule as a matter of dogma, so the US held elections in 2007 and the Shiite minority won. Then the Sunnis who used to run Iraq under Saddam Hussein resisted with guerrilla war and terrorist attacks. Petraeus was just a careerist looking for another star, and he told the Bush administration that he could fix the Sunni problem by paying off the Sunni tribal leaders. He handed out hundreds of millions of dollars to the Sunnis and gave them weapons and training through the âSons of Iraqâ and the âSunni Awakening.â When Obama took US forces out of Iraq, a lot of the same Sunnis who took money from Petraeus faced the same Shiite state, and became non-state actors, that is ISIS. And the CIAâs support for Sunni jihadist opponents of the Assad government in Syria made matters worse, as the Defense Intelligence Agency warned in a notorious 2012 report.â
My Chinese interlocutor was not impressed. âYouâre trying to tell me that the people who run the worldâs great superpower are complete idiots who donât think about the consequences of their actions? I donât believe you.â
Majority rule in Iraq meant permanent war:
âThe stark facts on the ground still sat there, oozing pus and bile. With Saddam gone, any voting would install a Shiite majority. The Sunni wouldnât run Iraq again. That, at the bottom, caused the insurgency. Absent the genocide of Sunni Arabs, it would keep it going.â
The Petraeus surge was one of the most destructive things any military leader ever undertook, but it stands as a symbol of the Establishmentâs collective reputation. The Republican Establishment had hailed Petraeus as the savior of George W Bushâs failed Iraq policy, and they are sticking to their story. When Bush took office in January 2001, the United States was the worldâs sole hyperpower. Russia had defaulted on its foreign debt in July 1998, and China was a small dark cloud in the geopolitical sky. US government debt was a manageable 55% of GDP, compared with more than 100% of GDP today. America had more than 17 million manufacturing workers, vs only 12 million today. It still dominated high-tech manufacturing, including computer chips and telecommunications equipment. Fast-forward to 2019: China is challenging American pre-eminence in a range of civilian and military technologies, while Russia has returned to the world stage as a major power, notably in the Middle East.
Donald Trump was obnoxious enough to declare that the emperor had no clothes. Breaking with the iron discipline of the Republican Establishment, he told voters that the United States had wasted $7 trillion, thousands of dead, and millions of lives disrupted in the disastrous nation-building campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The only other Republican candidate to repudiate the âBush Freedom Agendaâ was Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. That is why the 2016 Republican primary became a two-man race between Trump and Cruz. The whole of the American Establishment had signed on to a utopian crusade to impose the liberal world order on the Muslim world. After nine years of frustration in Iraq, it saw in the so-called âArab Springâ demonstrations of 2011 a second chance to bring its agenda to fruition. The result of this was the near-collapse of Egypt and an eight-year civil war in Syria that killed half a million people and displaced 10 million refugees.
BACK TO MICHAEL FLYNN:
That is what makes the case of Lieutenant-General Michael Flynn so central to the mutiny against Trump. As chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2012, Flynn had warned that American support for Sunni jihadists in Syria had the unintended effect of supporting the new caliphate movement, that is, ISIS. Among all the heads and former heads of the 17 agencies that make up the US intelligence community, Flynn was the only one who had objected to the disastrous covert intervention in Syria and foreseen its baleful consequences. Obama fired him, but Donald Trump hired him as a top campaign aide and then appointed him national security adviser.
Evidence is before the courts showing that the FBI set Flynn up in a White House interview, in order to claim that the distinguished general had lied to federal investigators about his contacts with Russians. Flynnâs lawyers have now produced evidence that the charges against him stemmed from an FBI forgery â FBI officials altered the interview report to put his remarks in an incriminating light. Flynnâs lawyer Sidney Powell claims that the CIA sandbagged him to stop an audit of its operations â the first audit since its founding.
Whatever one thinks of Donald Trump, the possibility should be horrifying that the worldâs oldest continuous democratic constitution might be subverted by a cabal of spies with the support of the Fake News media.
You make not like Trump's style or methods, but this is what Fighting Back Against The Swamp looks like.
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/11/article/not-a-bad-spy-novel-but-a-national-nightmare/
If your description of what happened to Flynn is true, then why won't Trump pardon him? I'm not seeing any major crime Flynn is guilty of.
It would be the ultimate FU, especially if he puts Flynn back in as DNI now that Bolton left. Then Flynn could get back to auditing the CIA...
That's something for Flynn to consider. He entered his guilty plea to get him and his family out of the gun sights - I think what he is working for is the Judge vacating his guilty plea. If not, then perhaps a Trump pardon will be in order. Flynn may think that a Court vacating rather than a pardon is a more complete vindication.
If Trump is unable to clean out the Deep State, they may still be in power after Trump leaves. Flynn has to think about that.
Trump's "heir apparent" seems to be Cruz. He was the last man standing against Trump. I agree a senator does not have the toughness and management skills to compete with a multi-billionaire who was tested in the crucible of high-stakes worldwide business like Trump.
Here is a glimpse of his extensive "empire" The Trump Organization - Wikipedia
I'm hoping that Cruz learned from his last campaign and from seeing how Trump re-branded the GOP from a "conservative" party to a "populist" party. The establishment wing of Never-Trumpers can go F-themselves. Cruz is smart, he'll figure it out.
Flynn should be really motivated if Trump gives him another chance, but not sure if Flynn would want to step back into the fight.