Hopey Changey Not Working So Well

[daveman]

Some people just can't tolerate The One being mocked, I suppose.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Unfortunately we're living in a bizarre "Community Organizer" world. But hey,the Recession's over and everything is just great. That's what they keep telling us anyway. Things are only going to get worse. The Socialists/Progressives are rapidly moving us towards Third World misery. Hopefully they're one & doners. Maybe then things can change and we can escape this dark malaise. I guess we'll see though. Make 2010 count.

 

[editec]

Some people just can't tolerate The One being mocked, I suppose.

Oh, Obama's got plenty warts and most of us that are reality based thinkers have no problem pointing them out.

Its the substitution of sound bytes from real critical thinking that we're objecting to.

But people come to this place equipped to contribute only as much as their understanding can generate for them, so I guess it's probably pointless to mock them for clinging to meaningless catchphrases that can nothing more than express their discontent

 

[Sarah G]

They hopey changey Sarah Palin knock off is pretty silly.

She and you seem about 12 years old saying it.

they sound like imbeciles saying it.

but its their way of making sure no one can have intelligent discussions about what's right and what's wrong.

it's also being said by people who started spewing that type of silliness on election day 2008.

I'm tired of it, the tea partiers aren't doing that well. Her soundbite mentality is insulting and then we have some here using her words like she has ever said anything coherent in her life..

 

[Sarah G]

Some people just can't tolerate The One being mocked, I suppose.

Hopey changey..

You think she's piched up a book in the last two years or so? Probably not even the one she claims to have written.

 

[Sarah G]

0-1.4 years in: Bad economy = Bush's fault
1.5+ years in: STILL a bad economy = just a natural cyclical occurrence, thats all.

More soundbites...trying to shift the blame...

Because you know, it only takes 15 months to try and claw back a $10 trillion deficit...

We're still fighting back from the brink of another depression.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

0-1.4 years in: Bad economy = Bush's fault
1.5+ years in: STILL a bad economy = just a natural cyclical occurrence, thats all.

More soundbites...trying to shift the blame...

Because you know, it only takes 15 months to try and claw back a $10 trillion deficit...

We're still fighting back from the brink of another depression.

Thats the point nothing obama is or has done will help to stop it. What obama MUST DO is give the privae sector all the lead way it needs. He needs to step back and let the experts take care of the economy. Keep the Government out of it.

 

[boedicca]

Businessess aren't hiring because we are cycling through an economic slowdown that makes for lower demand for the goods and services businesses produce, it's really that simple.

The heart break of economic illiteracy on parade. The reason demand is lower is because unemployment is high and people are scared. Obamanomics is killing off recovery of the small business private sector in favor of centralized planning which favors its cronies.

From Clusterstock, here's the percent of job losses from recessions post WWII:

One of these things is not like the others. It would behoove you to understand why.

 

[daveman]

Some people just can't tolerate The One being mocked, I suppose.

Oh, Obama's got plenty warts and most of us that are reality based thinkers have no problem pointing them out.

Its the substitution of sound bytes from real critical thinking that we're objecting to.

But people come to this place equipped to contribute only as much as their understanding can generate for them, so I guess it's probably pointless to mock them for clinging to meaningless catchphrases that can nothing more than express their discontent

It was meaningless catchphrases that got Obama elected -- but you just keep reality-based thinking lol that it's only the right that uses them.

 

[daveman]

Some people just can't tolerate The One being mocked, I suppose.

Hopey changey..

You think she's piched up a book in the last two years or so? Probably not even the one she claims to have written.

I have no idea. But then, I'm not driven by irrational hatred of the woman.

 

[skookerasbil]

Trust on Issues
Voters Still Trust GOP More on Most Key Issues
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Voters trust Republicans more than Democrats on nine out of 10 key issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports.

The latest national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows voters trust Republicans more by a 48% to 39% margin on the economy, an issue that has consistently been the most important among voters for several years.

Republicans have held the advantage on the economy since May of last year.

Democrats still hold a slight edge over the GOP on another top issue, government ethics and corruption. While 33% of voters trust Democrats more on these issues, 29% trust Republicans more. However, the plurality (38%) is not sure which party to trust more. Democrats have held modest leads on the issue for five months after the parties were tied in January.

Government ethics has twice edged out the economy in the past two years in terms of importance among voters.

However, a Rasmussen video report shows that 40% of voters see the Obama administration as being less ethical than past administrations.

More than 50% of voters nationwide trust the GOP more on the issues of national security, taxes and health care.



Trust on Issues - Rasmussen Reports





Ooooooooooooooooooooooops!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

Promise Broken rulings on the Obameter




No. 24: End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
"Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors -- saving them an average of $1,400 a year-- and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all."

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No. 30: End no-bid contracts above $25,000

"Will ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid."

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No. 71: Allow imported prescription drugs

"Allow Americans to buy their medicines from other developed countries if the drugs are safe and prices are lower outside the U.S."

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No. 86: Direct the Secretary of Health and Human Services to conduct a comprehensive study of federal cancer initiatives
"As president, Barack Obama will immediately direct his Secretary of Health and Human Services, in collaboration with agency officials, academic researchers, cancer survivors and advocates for people with cancer, and state public health officials, to comprehensively examine the various cancer-related efforts of federal agencies, and provide recommendations to eliminate barriers to effective coordination across federal agencies and between the federal government and other stakeholders."

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No. 221: Double the Peace Corps

"Barack Obama will double the Peace Corps to 16,000 by its 50th anniversary in 2011 and push Congress to fully fund this expansion, with a focus on Latin America and the Caribbean."

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No. 234: Allow five days of public comment before signing bills
To reduce bills rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them, Obama "will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days."

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No. 240: Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials
"No political appointees in an Obama-Biden administration will be permitted to work on regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years. And no political appointee will be able to lobby the executive branch after leaving government service during the remainder of the administration."

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No. 249: Double funding for afterschool programs
"Will double funding for the main federal support for afterschool programs, the 21st Century Learning Centers program, to serve one million more children."

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No. 292: Urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws

As president, "will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws."

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No. 313: Allow bankruptcy judges to modify terms of a home mortgage
Will repeal provisions of the Chapter 13 law that prohibit bankruptcy judges from modifying the original terms of home mortgages for ordinary families -- regardless of whether the loan was predatory or unfair or is otherwise unaffordable -- "so that ordinary families can also get relief that bankruptcy laws were intended to provide."

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No. 339: Support human mission to moon by 2020

Will "endorse the goal of sending human missions to the Moon by 2020, as a precursor in an orderly progression to missions to more distant destinations, including Mars."

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No. 379: Pay for the national service plan without increasing the deficit

"Will maintain fiscal responsibility and prevent any increase in the deficit by offsetting cuts and revenue sources in other parts of the government (to pay for a national service plan that will cost about $3.5 billion per year when it is fully implemented). This plan will be paid for in part by cancelling tax provisions that would otherwise help multinational corporations pay less in U.S. taxes starting in 2008 by reallocating tax deductions for interest expenses between income earned in the U.S. and income earned abroad. The rest of the plan will be funded using a small portion of the savings associated with ending the war in Iraq."

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No. 428: Give annual "State of the World" address

"I'll give an annual 'State of the World' address to the American people in which I lay out our national security policy."

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No. 431: Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels

"Barack Obama is committed to returning earmarks to less than $7.8 billion a year, the level they were at before 1994."

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No. 508: Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009
"Obama and Biden are calling for legislation that would allow withdrawals of 15% up to $10,000 from retirement accounts without penalty (although subject to the normal taxes). This would apply to withdrawals in 2008 (including retroactively) and 2009."

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No. 511: Recognize the Armenian genocide

"Two years ago, I criticized the Secretary of State for the firing of U.S. Ambassador to Armenia, John Evans, after he properly used the term 'genocide' to describe Turkey's slaughter of thousands of Armenians starting in 1915. … as President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide."

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No. 515: No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase."

"I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

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No. 517: Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN
To achieve health care reform, "I'm going to have all the negotiations around a big table. We'll have doctors and nurses and hospital administrators. Insurance companies, drug companies -- they'll get a seat at the table, they just won't be able to buy every chair. But what we will do is, we'll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies. And so, that approach, I think is what is going to allow people to stay involved in this process."

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No. 518: Create a public option health plan for a new National Health Insurance Exchange.

"The exchange will require that all the plans offered are at least as generous as the new public plan and meet the same standards for quality and efficiency."


PolitiFact | The Obameter: Obama's Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken








And why would anybody wonder why Independents now consider this guy a fraud????

 

[skookerasbil]

I love this forum!!!!

 

[Cuyo]

Promise Broken rulings on the Obameter

No. 24: End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
"Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors -- saving them an average of $1,400 a year-- and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all."

And why would anybody wonder why Independents now consider this guy a fraud????

Boy, talk about selective research! From politifact I assume. The breakdown is as follows:

119 Promises Kept
37 Compromised
19 Broken
82 Stalled
245 In the Works
3 Unrated

But to read your post, you'd swear he broke 'em all! Whereas in retrospect, the man appears to be doing quite well in the "Promises" department. Don'tcha think?

 

[code1211]

0-1.4 years in: Bad economy = Bush's fault
1.5+ years in: STILL a bad economy = just a natural cyclical occurrence, thats all.

More soundbites...trying to shift the blame...

Because you know, it only takes 15 months to try and claw back a $10 trillion deficit...

We're still fighting back from the brink of another depression.

Might the reason that we are still fighting back be that our leaders are clueless? The Big 0 got absolutely everything he wanted to stave off the disaster and yet it still came.

Did he ask for stuff that didn't work becuase he was stupid or inexperienced or because there just is no right answer?

How about we compare the economy after 9/11 to the economy after the Banking melt down. Then compare the recoveries. Then compare the mood of the public and the programs of the government.

Do you wonder what the effect of the upcoming increases in taxes for all Americans, well, the Americans who work or die or invest, across the board will be in January 2011? I can hardly wait to compare the withholding on my last check of 2010 and the first check of 2011.

 

[skookerasbil]

Promise Broken rulings on the Obameter

No. 24: End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
"Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors -- saving them an average of $1,400 a year-- and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all."

And why would anybody wonder why Independents now consider this guy a fraud????

Boy, talk about selective research! From politifact I assume. The breakdown is as follows:

119 Promises Kept
37 Compromised
19 Broken
82 Stalled
245 In the Works
3 Unrated

But to read your post, you'd swear he broke 'em all! Whereas in retrospect, the man appears to be doing quite well in the "Promises" department. Don'tcha think?

listen s0n...........by your math perhaps the guy is a hero, and no, I dont think. But for those who dont boast the political IQ of a handball, broken promise # 515 isnt sitting real well with the non-k00ks in this country. In fact, all the others pale in comparison in the real world. And many of the "kept" promises were public policy changes loved only by the radical k00ks. He could stick a rod up their asses and still they would vote for him.

For people who have real responsiblities in life..........unlike many of the lefty k00ks on this forum............#515 matters. Republicans + Independents now see his overt attempts to expand the lower class on thier backs. He didnt campaign that way but thats the way he is governing. Folks dont forget that sh!t...........they never do come election time. They now know Obama obsesses on the hand-out society and his goal to make it a permanent voting bloc............and is doing it by spending THEIR money and the money of their children. No jobs = no Independent votes = fAiL. Thats just the way it is when you promise Disney and deliver Harlem.

 

[Sarah G]

Some people just can't tolerate The One being mocked, I suppose.

Hopey changey..

You think she's piched up a book in the last two years or so? Probably not even the one she claims to have written.

I have no idea. But then, I'm not driven by irrational hatred of the woman.

Neither am I, I'm just keeping it real for you.

 

[Zona]

So we have another supposed supporter of the President who's actually surprised that he's pursuing the agenda he ran on?


Wow.

Funny huh...

 

[Zona]

I love this forum!!!!:funnyface:

Promise Broken rulings on the Obameter

No. 24: End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
"Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors -- saving them an average of $1,400 a year-- and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all."

And why would anybody wonder why Independents now consider this guy a fraud????

Boy, talk about selective research! From politifact I assume. The breakdown is as follows:

119 Promises Kept
37 Compromised
19 Broken
82 Stalled
245 In the Works
3 Unrated

But to read your post, you'd swear he broke 'em all! Whereas in retrospect, the man appears to be doing quite well in the "Promises" department. Don'tcha think?

skookerasbil, you look like a fool here.

 

[Trajan]

Nope....


Mort Zuckerman Is Not an Obama Speechwriter -- Daily Intel

You didn't read this before posting? Thought so.

Well, I just reread it and it still says he wasn't a speechwriter for him.

As far as the OP goes, whatever. Shouldn't have come as too much of a shock that a Dem President with a Dem congress wasn't going to be quite as friendly to corproate America's bottom line as the other party would have been.

Mort Zuckerman is , well, if you hold to that philosophy, a self hating jew, in any event he was a big supporter of the PA move back into gaza, he got a consortium together that bought up 60% of the Jewish greenhouse’s ( the price conservatively put at 20 million dollars) farms from the Israeli settlers, who had here to fore been there, and made a nice living feeding themselves and selling bumper crops, , he gave it, yes , gave it to the Palestinians who flooded back into Gaza, ( please feel free to google it ) ........and, wait for it………………………………



fuck- I said wait for it





Hamas and their adherents ……………they trashed them. The Palestinians would not handle/continence anything touched by Jew hands, so they torched it all.