Hold them criminally liable

[JoeB131]

The only “foreign” help we needed were referred to as “big boy” and “little boy”. The nuclear bombs we dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima would have had the same results in Berlin and Munich - total surrender.

Again, have to wonder where you learned history from. Germany and Italy were already defeated by the time we bombed helpless Japanese civilians with terror weapons. But it was really the entry of the USSR into the Pacific War that forced Japanese surrender.

You see, funny thing happened, right after the USSR entered, the US suddenly dropped it's demand that the Emperor be deposed. Not something you do from a position of strength.

Not to mention that this isn’t 1945. Our capabilities are even more remarkable.

Um, no, they really aren't. We couldn't subdue two third world countries. after spending 2.4 Trillion on the war on an emotional state. By comparison, our spending in WWII was $350 Billion or 4 Trillion in today's dollars over a four year period. The thing was, we only won world war II because we did all the things you kind of hate- High Taxation on the rich, government control of key industries, you know, pretty much the closest to Socialism this country has ever gotten.

On one hand, you whine incessantly that we spend more on our military than the next 10 nations combined. On the other hand, you attempt to make the argument that we are impotent without allies.

those two statements aren't contradictory. We WASTE a lot of money on the Military industrial complex. We buy ships the Navy doesn't want and planes that can't fly in the rain.

A single copy of an F-35 costs 122 Million a copy, and the whole program will cost 1.5 Trillion over the next few decades. And we've barely used it in combat and really has no practical use.

the Hilarious thing is that as much as you get on here and whine about the government, the things you actually whine about could be honestly said about how the DoD wastes money.

 

[P@triot]

Again, have to wonder where you learned history from. Germany and Italy were already defeated by the time we bombed helpless Japanese civilians with terror weapons.

Very good, junior. What the sam-fuck does that have to do with the power of our arsenal?

Good grief you are dumb.

 

[P@triot]

But it was really the entry of the USSR into the Pacific War that forced Japanese surrender.

You see, funny thing happened, right after the USSR entered, the US suddenly dropped it's demand that the Emperor be deposed. Not something you do from a position of strength.

Once again, we catch you contradicting yourself. If Russia forced the surrender of Japan, then it had nothing to do with the U.S. dropping it’s demand regarding the Emperor. If dropping the the demand regarding the Emperor forced the surrender, then it had nothing to do with Russia entering. Oops.

 

[P@triot]

Not to mention that this isn’t 1945. Our capabilities are even more remarkable.

Um, no, they really aren't.

That’s right folks...Joey is actually trying to make the case that our capabilities are not more remarkable now than they were in 1945.

 

[P@triot]

We couldn't subdue two third world countries. after spending 2.4 Trillion on the war on an emotional state.

Uh...that’s exactly what we did.

Here is what the U.S. set out to do:

• Kill or capture Osama Bin Laden (objective achieved)

• Remove the Taliban from power (objective achieved)

• Remove Saddam Hussein from power (objective achieved)

 

[P@triot]

after spending 2.4 Trillion on the war on an emotional state. By comparison, our spending in WWII was $350 Billion or 4 Trillion in today's dollars over a four year period.

Yeeaahh...it’s 2019 snowflake. Not 1945. Not only does everything cost more (bullets, bombs, personnel), but the technology is far more sophisticated (a tank today costs exponentially more than a tank then not only due to the era, but also due to the tank today containing capabilities that weren’t even dreamed of in SciFi in 1945).

 

[P@triot]

On one hand, you whine incessantly that we spend more on our military than the next 10 nations combined. On the other hand, you attempt to make the argument that we are impotent without allies.

those two statements aren't contradictory.

Yes snowflake, they really are. You can’t whine about us having the largest military in the world in one breath, and then in the next breath whine that we are impotent without allies to protect us.

You lost the argument. You’re an irrational lefty and you fail to think things through before speaking. It has caught up with you. Just stop before you make it worse.

 

[P@triot]

the Hilarious thing is that as much as you get on here and whine about the government, the things you actually whine about could be honestly said about how the DoD wastes money.

The sad part is that you’re so blinded by leftist envy ideology, while being so illiterate, that you can’t even articulate what I “whine” about.

(Hint: it’s not “the government”)

My complaint is the unconstitutional government created by ignorant leftists such as yourself. Defense is the constitutional responsibility of the federal government. Welfare and housing are not. I’ve told you this before many times, but learning just isn’t your strong suit.

 

[JoeB131]

Very good, junior. What the sam-fuck does that have to do with the power of our arsenal?

Good grief you are dumb.

What arsenal? We had two bombs. That was it. We had already dropped hundreds of tons of bombs on Japan, they weren't all that impressed.

The Red Army in Tokyo? That scared them. They heard the story of how the Russians were raping the shit out of the Germans and said, "No, thank you!"

Yes snowflake, they really are. You can’t whine about us having the largest military in the world in one breath, and then in the next breath whine that we are impotent without allies to protect us.

I'm sorry you can't follow an argument, Poodle. It really doesn't matter how big our military is, if we don't have allies willing to support us. Again, for those playing along at home, we got driven out of Iraq, and it's only a matter of time before we get driven out of Afghanistan. We've spent 1.5 TRILLION on this war, and we are pretty much in the same place we were at before we started, if not worse.

Hey, you know what, after we worked with our allies in WWII, who did most of the heavy lifting, the world was changed, in our favor, mostly. Imagine that. But, no, let's piss off the few friends we have in the world, that will work.

My complaint is the unconstitutional government created by ignorant leftists such as yourself. Defense is the constitutional responsibility of the federal government. Welfare and housing are not. I’ve told you this before many times, but learning just isn’t your strong suit.

Um, how are we "Defending" ourselves when we invade third world countries on the other side of the planet? You have kind of an odd notion of "Defense".

It really doesn't matter what the Founding Slave Rapists wanted, the reality is, housing and welfare have created the modern American state.

But I totally think your party should run on "We are going to get rid of social security and medicare and give that money to the rich because they deserve it!"

Totally run on that. No more bullshit you don't really mean about gay marriage and immigration and abortion. Just run on that.

 

[P@triot]

The Red Army in Tokyo? That scared them. They heard the story of how the Russians were raping the shit out of the Germans and said, "No, thank you!"

I marvel at your ability to make up nonsense. If you weren’t such a parasite, you’d actually make one hell of a fiction writer.

Sorry snowflake...there was never even a whisper of Russia crossing the ocean to get to Japan. And the Japanese wouldn’t have feared “Russian rape” anyway.

They did, however, greatly fear the awesome and devastating power of our atomic bombs after Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

 

[P@triot]

Again, for those playing along at home, we got driven out of Iraq

We were driven out of Iraq? Really? Holy shit is that funny.

 

[Dragonlady]

It is simply inexcusable that the left violate federal law with their sanctuary cities. It is unforgivable that doing so results in the deaths of Americans. The simple solution to this problem is to hold the Democrats criminally liable for every crime committed by illegals in their sanctuary city. There should be two charges: one for the sanctuary city (which violates federal law) and one for the actual crime.

Illegal immigrant stabs California woman to death after 'sanctuary' laws protected suspect from ICE 9 times

Since this individual keeps coming across the border, I would say that those responsible for keeping him out should be held liable. That would be the Border Patrol. It is not the job of municipal police to deal with immigration matters. That is a federal jurisdiction.

I would be FAR more concerned about the white American terrorists going into churches, synagogues and mosques and killing Jews, Muslims and non-whites if I were you. That is the REAL problem in the United States. 14,000 people per year dying by gun violence. 70,000 people per year dying from opioid abuse, 45,000 per year dying from lack of access to medical care.

There are far more pressing issues that are killing more Americans than illegal immigration. One would think you would CARE about people killed by Americans first.

 

[JoeB131]

I marvel at your ability to make up nonsense. If you weren’t such a parasite, you’d actually make one hell of a fiction writer.

Sorry snowflake...there was never even a whisper of Russia crossing the ocean to get to Japan. And the Japanese wouldn’t have feared “Russian rape” anyway.

Again, I realize that you learned history the same place you learned the world is 6000 years old and snakes can talk, but the reality..

Japan had hoped up until the USSR entered the war that they could broker a peace between them and the US. When they entered the war, the rolled up the Japanese Army in Manchuria and Korea within days.

and unlike the US, that had to travel hundreds of miles to land on the Southernmost island, the Russians only had to make a short hop across the sea of Japan. The Northern Island of Hokkaido was almost completely undefended.

A prolonged war with the USSR would have meant a partition of Japan.

 

[JoeB131]

We were driven out of Iraq? Really? Holy shit is that funny.

What did you think happened? We took a lot of casualties, and Americans finally decided that no one should be the last man to die for Bush's lie.

Bush lied. People died.

We got driven out with our tails between our legs.

 

[P@triot]

Since this individual keeps coming across the border, I would say that those responsible for keeping him out should be held liable. That would be the Border Patrol.

As always, you sound like an idiot. That’s like claiming law enforcement should be held liable for every murder they didn’t prevent. It is not a crime to fail to prevent a crime. It is a crime to actively engage in criminal activity (such as aiding and abetting). That’s what progressives (mayors, law enforcement, etc.) are doing with their idiot “sanctuary cities”. They are knowingly aiding criminals.

It is not the job of municipal police to deal with immigration matters. That is a federal jurisdiction.

First of all, as a Canadian, you’re completely clueless about U.S. laws and responsibilities of various U.S. law enforcement agencies. Second, no argument was made about responsibility. I merely pointed out the criminal actions of the anti-American leftists.

 

[P@triot]

I would be FAR more concerned about the white American terrorists going into churches, synagogues and mosques and killing Jews, Muslims and non-whites if I were you. That is the REAL problem in the United States.

First of all, nobody is killing muslims. It is the muslims (such as Syed Rizwan Farook, Tashfeen Malik, and Nasim Aghdam) that are killing Americans.

Why are you so incapable of getting information accurate? Your propaganda campaign is failing miserably. That nonsense only works on leftists who are willfully ignorant. Conservatives are far too educated and informed to be duped by your lies.

 

[P@triot]

14,000 people per year dying by gun violence.

Do you have a point?

70,000 people per year dying from opioid abuse

That’s because the leftist idiots you cheer refuse to secure the border. Over 95% of all opioids come in over the southern border. Thank you for making a strong case for President Trump to build the wall!

45,000 per year dying from lack of access to medical care.

First of all, not a single person dies from a “lack of access to medical care”. Second, even if they did, that is their fault. Over 300 million Americans had the best healthcare in the world before Obamacare. If you can’t achieve something that 300 million people can achieve, you are the problem. Not the “system”.

One would think you would CARE about people killed by Americans first.

That makes zero sense. Why would I care more about people killed by legal citizens who are supposed to be here than I would about people killed by illegal aliens who shouldn’t even be here in the first place?

 

[P@triot]

We were driven out of Iraq? Really? Holy shit is that funny.

What did you think happened?

Uh...we achieved complete and total victory. We removed Saddam Hussein from power, turned the nation over to the Iraqis, assisted with their new government, and came home. Exactly as intended.

You’re the only buffoon I know who would even attempt to convince people that America was “driven out of Iraq”. Lies like that worked sometimes in the 1700’s. It doesn’t work in the 21st Century with 24x7 cable news, the internet, cell phones with video recording capabilities, etc. It’s all been captured snowflake.

Done with your trolling and desperate attempts for attention now. Buh-bye.

 

[JoeB131]

Uh...we achieved complete and total victory. We removed Saddam Hussein from power, turned the nation over to the Iraqis, assisted with their new government, and came home. Exactly as intended.

Oh, was that what happened?

You see, in the reality most of us live in. Bush ignored his generals, went in with too few troops to secure the country. INstead of all singing and dancing, the Iraqis immediately went at each other with the only thing uniting them was their hatred for us. Americans started bitching about all those kids coming home in body bags, so Bush had Petreaus pay them big bribes to play nice just long enough for us to withdraw.

Sorry, man, Iraq was a big fucking mess. Compare that to WWII, where we built Germany and Japan into stable democracies that were prosperous... That's how Democrats fight a war. Republicans go in with a half-ass plan, ignore their generals, let military contractors make a killing selling defective equipment, and then withdraw when people get sick of it.

You’re the only buffoon I know who would even attempt to convince people that America was “driven out of Iraq”. Lies like that worked sometimes in the 1700’s. It doesn’t work in the 21st Century with 24x7 cable news, the internet, cell phones with video recording capabilities, etc. It’s all been captured snowflake.

Yes, it was all captured. We quickly found out that Bush had lied. We found out that Halliburton and Blackwater got sweet ass contracts.

Sorry, man, we spent 1.5 Trillion dollars on Iraq to let the Iranians take it over? When did that become a good idea?