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    <center><h2><a href=http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/942>Gott mit uns: On Bush and Hitler’s rhetoric</a></h2></center>

    <blockquote>September 1, 2004

    President Bush told Texas evangelist James Robinson that “I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can’t explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen . . . I know it won’t be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.”

    With 49.3% of New York City residents in a recent Zogby poll believing that some people in our government knew of the 911 attack in advance and allowed it to happen, the President as right-wing evangelical prophet is under siege in his Madison Square Garden bunker. Convention watchers should take careful note of the theocratic nationalist rhetoric at the Republican convention this week.

    When was the last time a Western nation had a leader so obsessed with God and claiming God was on our side?

    If you answered Adolph Hitler and Nazi Germany, you’re correct. Nothing can be more misleading than to categorize Hitler as a barbaric pagan or Godless totalitarian, like Stalin.</blockquote>

    While Dubbyuh's rhetoric is comparable to that of Hitler, he is not...quite. He lacks the charisma of a Hitler, but he plays on the same fears that Hitler did, and invokes the same nationalistic/religious shiboleths.

    An elderly gentleman I cared for at a dialysis clinic was a member of the Luftwaffe during WWII. His family stood in opposition to Hitler, until his father was killed during the "Night of the Long-knives". He considered the fall of the World Trade Center to be America's burning of the Reichstag. And pointed out that the Congress reacted in the same manner that the German Parliament did...by granting the Administration sweeping and unprecedented powers to fight the "war on terror". In fact, Congress gave Dubbyuh broader and more sweeping power than Germany's legislature gave Hitler. This patient I cared for fears a return to the bad old days, as should we all.

    Dubbyuh's no Hitler, but he is a dictator wannabe
     
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    Bullypulpit:

    "With 49.3% of New York City residents in a recent Zogby poll believing that some people in our government knew of the 911 attack in advance and allowed it to happen, the President as right-wing evangelical prophet is under siege in his Madison Square Garden bunker".

    President Bush got a pretty healthy bounce, for a man "under siege". I bet Kerry is wondering where he can sign up to be under that kind of siege.

    That poll appears to advance a rather bizarre conclusion about the people of NYC. Something stinks here. Got a link?

    "Convention watchers should take careful note of the theocratic nationalist rhetoric at the Republican convention this week."

    Since the bedrock principle of Christianity is that man's free will is the whole point of the exercise, a Christian theocracy could not exist; it is a contradiction in terms. As for nationalism, many non-Democrat Americans don't consider that a bad word - especially coming from a U.S. President.

    "Nothing can be more misleading than to categorize Hitler as a barbaric pagan or Godless totalitarian, like Stalin.'

    The extent of Hitler's much-vaunted Christianity amounted to a few years in the Catholic school system, which left him hatefully bitter. He was only too glad to throw around whatever religious talk might have helped him in his rise to power. But, Hitler's only "god" was the state - an Aryan state. The only difference between him and Stalin was that Stalin was the more prodigious murderer.
     
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    odd that we are having elections then----oh ya--those will be rigged
    here we go with the conspiracy crap again! :tinfoil:
     
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    If they are going to publish bs like this, they can at least make sure they get the evangelist's name right.

    :bsflag:
     
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    I might be wrong, but it seems to me that I once lined my parrot's cage with a copy of the Columbus Free Press. He refused to use it, saying, "Why be redundant?"
     
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    Bully's source is Bob Fitzrakis of the Freepress. Fitzrakis is a sensationalist muckracker who has little regard for the facts and no regard whatever for the truth - hmmm pretty much the same as Bully. Here's the link to that sewage disposal plant masquerading as a "news" site:

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    http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/942

    And here are the titles of some of Fitzrakis' other "expose's"

    "Random notes from the heartland – Bush in Columbus"
    September 1, 2004

    "The Columbus sniper, video games and the new Manchurian Candidates*"
    August 29, 2004

    "Rods from Gods: The insanity of Star Wars, the sequel"
    June 24, 2004

    "Ronald Reagan: a legacy of crack and cheese"
    June 16, 2004

    "Torture and abuse: A pattern and practice of the U.S. military"
    May 4, 2004

    "Again, why George W. Bush must be tried as a war criminal"
    April 20, 2004

    "On Bush, drugs and hypocrisy "
    April 15, 2004

    "Diebold, electronic voting and the vast right-wing conspiracy"
    February 24, 2004

    "Behind every Bush there's a scandal"
    February 21, 2004


    I was going to pick apart the piece Bully posted, but after seeing where he got it, I figured "what's the point?" Either Bully is a wild-eyed fanatic who shared residence in Ted Kaczynski's shack or he trolls the net and dredges up this crap for no purpose other than to stir things up.

    Apparently Bully feels at home at the Freepress because he has found a kindred spirit with the same distorted vision and questionable journalistic ethics.

    But I am going to indulge myself just a bit and answer one question posed by the muckracker. Fitzrakis screeches "When was the last time a western nation was so obsessed with God and claiming God was on our side?" He then incorrectly answers his own question by claiming that person was Hitler.

    And the dipshit can't even get that right. It wasn't Hitler. It was Ronald Reagan.

    Four more years, Bully. Start chanting that every day so your synapses won't burn out this November.
     
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    Laughing my butt off so much, I need glue to put it back on, now my pants won't fit until it dries and I can't take a dump, either.

    Gotta do some stuff around the house, now. Otherwise, I would pontificate (and ponitificating is what we dead Communists do the best!)
     
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    Why is it scummy liberals are so afraid of a Christian president who actually is a God-fearing man? (totally unlike Hitler)

    Could it just be that they are such vermin that the light of Christianity scares them to death? If honest, decent, God-fearing men became the norm again in politics as it was at the start of our country, they would have to run and hide back under the rocks from which they came.
     
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    If Bush's governmant knew about it ,then so did your wonderful Clinton's government. I don't think that either believed it would happen . This article is nothing more than some extremist in the media that wants to panic everyone because no one pays attention otherwise. Also,NY is not the only place in the U.S. Their are opinions outside of N.Y. you know. :bang3:
     

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