Hitler actually EASED gun restrictions.........

[ABikerSailor]

Lately, one of the talking points from the NRA and the right has been that Hitler took everyone's guns when he came to power.

That is false.

Germany restricted all gun ownership while trying to rebuild after WW I. And, if you look at the timeline, gun restrictions were pretty much lifted by 1928, and one of the government groups that were allowed to have guns were the Nazis, and in 1938 (when Hitler was in power), they were further lifted.

The only ones NOT allowed to have guns were the Jewish people.

Restrictions imposed by the treaty of Versailles

In 1919 and 1920, to stabilize the country and in part to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, the German Weimar government passed very strict gun ownership restrictions. Article 169 of the Treaty of Versailles stated, "Within two months from the coming into force of the present Treaty, German arms, munitions, and war material, including anti-aircraft material, existing in Germany in excess of the quantities allowed, must be surrendered to the Governments of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers to be destroyed or rendered useless."[1]

In 1919, the German government passed the Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which declared that "all firearms, as well as all kinds of firearms ammunition, are to be surrendered immediately."[2] Under the regulations, anyone found in possession of a firearm or ammunition was subject to five years' imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 marks.

On August 7, 1920, the German government enacted a second gun-regulation law called the Law on the Disarmament of the People. It put into effect the provisions of the Versailles Treaty in regard to the limit on military-type weapons.

In 1928, the German government enacted the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this scheme, Germans could possess firearms, but they were required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms (including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition. This law explicitly revoked the 1919 Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which had banned all firearms possession.

Stephen Halbrook writes about the German gun restriction laws in the 1919-1928 period, "Within a decade, Germany had gone from a brutal firearms seizure policy which, in times of unrest, entailed selective yet immediate execution for mere possession of a firearm, to a modern, comprehensive gun control law."[3]

[edit] The 1938 German Weapons Act

The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." Under the new law:
Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. Writes Prof. Bernard Harcourt of the University of Chicago, "The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition."[4]
The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[5]
The age at which persons could own guns was lowered from 20 to 18.[5]
The firearms carry permit was valid for three years instead of one year.[5]
Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.[6]

Under both the 1928 and 1938 acts, gun manufacturers and dealers were required to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the guns' serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.

On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation, which only applied to newly conquered Austria and Sudetenland, effectively deprived all Jews living in those locations of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.[7][8]

Gun politics in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It would be nice if some of you rabid gun owner types would actually learn what really happened in history, rather than parroting the talking points given to you by the NRA.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The American Left finally embraces their fellow Socialist and gun control advocate, "Uncle" Adolf Hitler

 

[Paulie]

Lately, one of the talking points from the NRA and the right has been that Hitler took everyone's guns when he came to power.

That is false.

Germany restricted all gun ownership while trying to rebuild after WW I. And, if you look at the timeline, gun restrictions were pretty much lifted by 1928, and one of the government groups that were allowed to have guns were the Nazis, and in 1938 (when Hitler was in power), they were further lifted.

The only ones NOT allowed to have guns were the Jewish people.

Restrictions imposed by the treaty of Versailles

In 1919 and 1920, to stabilize the country and in part to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, the German Weimar government passed very strict gun ownership restrictions. Article 169 of the Treaty of Versailles stated, "Within two months from the coming into force of the present Treaty, German arms, munitions, and war material, including anti-aircraft material, existing in Germany in excess of the quantities allowed, must be surrendered to the Governments of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers to be destroyed or rendered useless."[1]

In 1919, the German government passed the Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which declared that "all firearms, as well as all kinds of firearms ammunition, are to be surrendered immediately."[2] Under the regulations, anyone found in possession of a firearm or ammunition was subject to five years' imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 marks.

On August 7, 1920, the German government enacted a second gun-regulation law called the Law on the Disarmament of the People. It put into effect the provisions of the Versailles Treaty in regard to the limit on military-type weapons.

In 1928, the German government enacted the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this scheme, Germans could possess firearms, but they were required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms (including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition. This law explicitly revoked the 1919 Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which had banned all firearms possession.

Stephen Halbrook writes about the German gun restriction laws in the 1919-1928 period, "Within a decade, Germany had gone from a brutal firearms seizure policy which, in times of unrest, entailed selective yet immediate execution for mere possession of a firearm, to a modern, comprehensive gun control law."[3]

[edit] The 1938 German Weapons Act

The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." Under the new law:
Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. Writes Prof. Bernard Harcourt of the University of Chicago, "The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition."[4]
The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[5]
The age at which persons could own guns was lowered from 20 to 18.[5]
The firearms carry permit was valid for three years instead of one year.[5]
Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.[6]

Under both the 1928 and 1938 acts, gun manufacturers and dealers were required to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the guns' serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.

On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation, which only applied to newly conquered Austria and Sudetenland, effectively deprived all Jews living in those locations of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.[7][8]

Gun politics in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It would be nice if some of you rabid gun owner types would actually learn what really happened in history, rather than parroting the talking points given to you by the NRA.

Oh well this is awesome then. As long as only a certain heritage is excluded I'm ok with it

What point was this supposed to make other than you looking like a retard?

 

[Richard-H]

It would be nice if some of you rabid gun owner types would actually learn what really happened in history, rather than parroting the talking points given to you by the NRA.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Because the rabid right has been comparing Obama to Hitler by saying that Obama is trying to take your guns.

Hitler only took the guns away from the Jews (much like the American colonists kept guns away from the slaves), yet allowed everone else to have them, and eased up on many restrictions.

So, comparing Obama to Hitler over gun control is pretty much a non sequitur.

 

[BallsBrunswick]

You actually expect conservatives to have a grasp of history? If they did, it would invalidate virtually all of their talking points. Re-writing history is the conservative past time as we witness every day on here.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The only people who weren't armed were the ones they planned on killing.

Just like Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and every pother "Progressive" Leader in history

 

[Paulie]

The only people who weren't armed were the ones they planned on killing.

Just like Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and every pother "Progressive" Leader in history

How many SS agents would have been willing to go house to house if the jews had been armed?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The only people who weren't armed were the ones they planned on killing.

Just like Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and every pother "Progressive" Leader in history

How many SS agents would have been willing to go house to house if the jews had been armed?

Thank the OP for reminding us

Homeland Security has bullets, the SS had bullets

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Raise your right hand if you agree with Obama on guns

 

[OODA_Loop]

Eased gun restrictions on his chosen Aryan race.

The ones he disarmed - he tried to exterminate.

 

[The Infidel]

Because the rabid right has been comparing Obama to Hitler by saying that Obama is trying to take your guns.

Hitler only took the guns away from the Jews (much like the American colonists kept guns away from the slaves), yet allowed everone else to have them, and eased up on many restrictions.

So, comparing Obama to Hitler over gun control is pretty much a non sequitur.

You conveniently leave out WHY the NRA was formed... Brilliant propagandist you are


Btw, I haven't seen nor heard average Americans calling or comparing Obama to Hitler.
Stop lying ABS.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

History lesson: Progressives only disarm people they intend to kill

 

[The Infidel]

The only people who weren't armed were the ones they planned on killing.

Just like Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and every pother "Progressive" Leader in history

Makes one wonder why they want a national registry for gun owners.

 

[Paulie]

The only people who weren't armed were the ones they planned on killing.

Just like Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and every pother "Progressive" Leader in history

How many SS agents would have been willing to go house to house if the jews had been armed?

Thank the OP for reminding us

Homeland Security has bullets, the SS had bullets

Oh I thank the OP every day not only for his naval service but also for his parents' steadfast convictions on seeing the fetus to a full term.

 

[Dutch]

The only people who weren't armed were the ones they planned on killing.

Just like Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and every pother "Progressive" Leader in history

How many SS agents would have been willing to go house to house if the jews had been armed?

Germany defeated France in two weeks, I am sure they could handle rounding up Jews even if they were armed.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The only people who weren't armed were the ones they planned on killing.

Just like Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and every pother "Progressive" Leader in history

How many SS agents would have been willing to go house to house if the jews had been armed?

Germany defeated France in two weeks, I am sure they could handle rounding up Jews even if they were armed.

See how Progs welcome back Uncle Adolf?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hitler only disarmed people he had scheduled for extermination.

See the difference?

Yeah, me neither

 

[OODA_Loop]

I guess you could argue the positive that Hitler also increased the baking size of ovens.

 

[Dutch]

He also believed in defense spending and a strong military. Therefore conservatives are Nazis. See how easy it is if your premise is faulty.