Historical Rankings of Presidents

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  1. ElephantMcDonk
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    I find this interesting:

    Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Each person's view point would obviously effect their takeaway from this. These are polls of "experts" or as close as they could come, you know historians, poly sci profs, etc.

    I think I'm fairly realisitic and pragmatic, so though I lean a little left politically, I think these rankings are pretty spot on. I would find it funny if the loudest people in the room are the responses to Obama's ranking, whom it's obviously to early to judge, so somewhere in the middle makes sense for now. The rest of the polling is good stuff.
     
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    This is why I don't use wiki as a source of political info. Under no means can carter rank above Reagan. And Obama isn't done.

    Plus as time went by they started being ranked by the media. That alone should tell you something.
     
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    He ranked ahead of Reagan in 1 out of 12 and behind him in 11 out of 12.

    Reagan's average ranking is 16th, Carter's is 27th.

    I would personally rank them about even because I think Reagan's legacy is both good and bad, but the bad could prove to be horrible for the country.

    Your opinion is one opinion, as is mine. The broad opinion of these 1000s of people, many of whom are experts, over time, says a lot more than your opinion or mine.
     
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    And you can find all kinds of presidential ratings lists... big fucking whoop

    IMHO, any one that Ranks Carter above 40 is ridiculous.... any one that has FDR in the top 8 is ridiculous... any one that puts Jefferson out of the top 5 is ridiculous.. and any one that puts Obama anywhere in there is even more ridiculous
     
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    I appreciate your service, but your opinion is 1 person's opinion.

    You say anyone that puts FDR in the top 8 is stupid.

    16 polls of experts have him ranked 1,2, or 3, none have him ranked lower than 3rd.
    Maybe they know something you don't.

    If you mean Obama shouldn't be on a list yet, because we don't have enough information, fine. If instead you mean he doesn't deserve to be on a list with the rest of them, then I shouldn't have responded to your post at all, because we obviously know where you stand.

    With regards to Carter being in the top 40, there have only been 44 Presidents, one currently serving. Carter is not ranked worse than 34th on any of the polls.

    Of Warren Harding, James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson who does Carter rank behind?
     
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    It is too early for Obama, Bush or even Clinton to be rated. I doubt enough time has passed for the elder Bush either.
     
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    Woodrow Wilson is up there, ohh wow...
     
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    Universal Though of as the Top Presidents:
    Lincoln, Washington, TJ, FDR, IKE and Truman

    Universal Though of as the Worst Presidents:
    Buchanan, Harding, Carter & GWB

    Unfair to rank Obama at the moment, since he is only two years in. It could be unfair to rank W, since he is only two years out.

    I also think slick Willie gets off from being a horrible President, because he had the benefits of being the dot.com surplus. But he kicked off the Mortgage Meltdown, then when it was started it could only be stopped by the bubble bursting. He kicked off the student loan crisis and the largest increase in college tuition in US history. He also is the head in the sand President on Islamofacist threats to America. In the end, he didn't just get sucked off, he sucked all the way around.
     
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    I would have Carter on the bottom.

    He got a lot of easy things done. When it got hard.. Well, the bodies of marines being dragged, the lines at the gas stations, record inflation, etc etc.. He didn't have it in him to lead. I think he would have been a great diplmat thogh.
     
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    Clinton can be rated, he has been a decade out of office! HE SUCKED!
     

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