Hilary Clinton vs. Rand Paul 2016 - The Choice is Clear

[Iceman]

No contest. Rand Paul. Hillary is a socialist hag.

Socialist ideologies help the middle-class prosper.

The Clintons are not socialists, they are neo-liberal globalists that helped gut the middle class through NAFTA. The prosperity under Clinton was artificial, you can thank Greenspan, not Greenspan for the artificial growth through low interest rates from the FED.

Anyone that thinks the Democrats are for the working man is a fool. Either you are a fool or you are just conning stupid Americans as well. Look at Obama's top donors, JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs. Hilary is owned by the same people.

I don't agree with Rand Paul on a couple important issues, but at least he addresses the Private Federal Reserve, the engine the fuels our debt based fractional reserve system that transfers wealth from the middle class to Wall Street. Won't hear a word from Hilary on this.

 

[candycorn]

While I'm using Clinton's and Paul's names here, this can be interpreted as "Democrat vs. Republican" in actuality.

Hilary Clinton supports Obama's big-government agenda, including the flop of Obamacare, higher taxes, and massive welfare spending, including food stamps for people like Jason Greenslate, who surfs and eats lobster all day. Rand Paul opposes the Obama welfare state. He'll crack down on food-stamp abusers like Jason and take on wasteful spending and high taxes. And Rand Paul will repeal Obamacare root and branch, including its job-killing taxes and regulations, the anti-freedom individual mandate, and its decimation of our healthcare system. Rand Paul believes medical decisions should be between an individual and their doctor, period.

Hilary Clinton supports Obama's war on coal - which should really be called a War on America. The War on Coal doesn't just mean that thousands of miners are out of a job; it also means that hundreds of coal plants have been closed or prevented from opening. This means higher electricity rates for all Americans, which hits the poor disproportionately hard. Clinton also supports Obama's job-killing moratoria on offshore drilling, which are driving gas prices higher and threatening American energy independence. She even backs cap-and-trade, a radical leftist proposal that would raise gas prices by 25%, lead to skyrocketing electricity rates, and kill millions of jobs. Rand Paul wants to lower or eliminate the gas tax. He is 100% against Obama's war on coal, and he'll fight for more oil wells and refineries by lifting Obama's drilling bans. Clinton stands with Hollywood environmentalists; Rand Paul stands with hard-working Americans.

On privacy rights, Hilary Clinton supports Obama's NSA program. Hillary thinks it's OK for the government to spy on your e-mails. Rand Paul supports America's privacy rights. He believes in the 4th amendment and will take liberals to court in order to stop the usurpation of our Constitutional rights. Hillary also lied about the Benghazi attacks, leading to the death of 5 Americans(the troops at Benghazi were DENIED military aid when requested and then Clinton claimed it wasn't a terrorist attack). When James Clapper tried to tell the truth about the attacks, Hillary demoted her. Rand Paul respects the military and he will never lie to the American people about an attack on an American embassy. Clinton supports the IRS, even though it targeted groups that disagreed and even took a luxury retreat after getting caught with its scandal. Now, she wants the IRS as an Obamacare enforcer. Rand Paul wants to eliminate the IRS, and he'll make sure that government workers don't waste millions of dollars on luxuries like "swag bags" with taxpayer money. Finally, Hillary supports giving billions of YOUR MONEY to terrorists like the Muslim Brotherhood. Rand Paul opposes funding Muslim terrorists who hate America, and he'll respect our Constitution and require Congress to declare war before authorizing military action.

The choice in 2016 is crystal clear - bigger government and less freedom or smaller government and more freedom. We've got to get this right.

BTW: Rand Paul CAN beat Hillary Clinton. He leads her in Colorado, a state which voted for Obama by about 5 points in 2012.
Colorado Poll: Rand Paul Defeats, Ted Cruz Ties Hillary Clinton

Rand Paul would lose to Ron Paul.

Ron Paul would lose to Kobe Bryant in Colorado where he was accused of rape.

 

[Avatar4321]

honestly for me, this will be a tough choice

Unless you're rich or stupid it will be Democrat.

I think you mean If you're rich or stupid it will be Democrat.

 

[Chris]

Rand Paul couldn't organize a one car funeral.

 

[Avatar4321]

Rand Paul is not even close to libertarian in his ideology and his words have made it clear. He falls grossly short of his father, I wouldn't bother voting for him.

I would consider going out and voting for Clinton just to fuck this country up a little bit more (things are worst before they get better), but other than that.. no.

Him not being his father is a good selling point.

 

[Avatar4321]

Socialist ideologies help the middle-class prosper.

They help the parasites prosper.

The public roadway you drove down today is a socialist ideology.

What is it with people and stupid claims lately?

 

[Chris]

They help the parasites prosper.

The public roadway you drove down today is a socialist ideology.

What is it with people and stupid claims lately?

What is it with people who don't realize that everything the government does from the police to the military to the roads is "socialist?"

 

[Avatar4321]

Rand Paul couldn't organize a one car funeral.

He could. But he wouldn't do something so stupid.

 

[Avatar4321]

The public roadway you drove down today is a socialist ideology.

What is it with people and stupid claims lately?

What is it with people who don't realize that everything the government does from the police to the military to the roads is "socialist?"

They are educated.

 

[Chris]

What is it with people and stupid claims lately?

What is it with people who don't realize that everything the government does from the police to the military to the roads is "socialist?"

They are educated.

Hardly.

The police department is socialist.

The fire department is socialist.

Public schools and universities are socialist.

Credit unions are socialist.

The U.S. military is socialist.

Social Security is socialist and has worked well for 76 years.

Medicare is socialist and is keeping my father alive.

 

[Avatar4321]

What is it with people who don't realize that everything the government does from the police to the military to the roads is "socialist?"

They are educated.

Hardly.

The police department is socialist.

The fire department is socialist.

Public schools and universities are socialist.

Credit unions are socialist.

The U.S. military is socialist.

Social Security is socialist and has worked well for 76 years.

Medicare is socialist and is keeping my father alive.

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[Chris]

They are educated.

Hardly.

The police department is socialist.

The fire department is socialist.

Public schools and universities are socialist.

Credit unions are socialist.

The U.S. military is socialist.

Social Security is socialist and has worked well for 76 years.

Medicare is socialist and is keeping my father alive.

Thank you for proving my point.

You are welcome.

Crying "socialism" all the time is bullshit.

Most countries in the world are a combination of capitalism and a social safety net. Most people realize that taking care of children, the old, and the sick is the right thing to do. That is why universal healthcare, Social Security, and aid to dependent children is important.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Hilary Clinton vs. Rand Paul 2016 - The Choice is Clear

What’s clear is that democrats would love nothing more than to run anyone against Paul; HRC would win in a landslide.

Otherwise, your post is ignorant idiocy – particularly the nonsense about privacy rights.

 

[Locke11_21]

Hardly.

The police department is socialist.

The fire department is socialist.

Public schools and universities are socialist.

Credit unions are socialist.

The U.S. military is socialist.

Social Security is socialist and has worked well for 76 years.

Medicare is socialist and is keeping my father alive.

Thank you for proving my point.

You are welcome.

Crying "socialism" all the time is bullshit.

Laughable coming from you, who posts bullshit all the time.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

No, unfortunately for the democrats Paul won’t be the nominee – republicans may be crazy but they’re not stupid.

 

[MDiver]

I have no problem with big government, as long as the government provides a lot of services for its citizens in return.

 

[Hoosier4Liberty]

What is it with people who don't realize that everything the government does from the police to the military to the roads is "socialist?"

They are educated.

Hardly.

The police department is socialist.

The fire department is socialist.

Public schools and universities are socialist.

Credit unions are socialist.

The U.S. military is socialist.

Social Security is socialist and has worked well for 76 years.

Medicare is socialist and is keeping my father alive.

Not all government is inherently socialist...........the problem of government is when it moves from providing services for everyone(military, fire department, public schools, etc.) to specifically redistributing wealth (Social security/Medicare do this to an extent, and I'd like to point out that your father, if he had gotten to keep more of his money, would have done better without Medicare). And the evidence in my sig shows that INCREASING the level of socialism is horrible for a country.

 

[American4Americ]

They are educated.

Hardly.

The police department is socialist.

The fire department is socialist.

Public schools and universities are socialist.

Credit unions are socialist.

The U.S. military is socialist.

Social Security is socialist and has worked well for 76 years.

Medicare is socialist and is keeping my father alive.

Not all government is inherently socialist...........the problem of government is when it moves from providing services for everyone(military, fire department, public schools, etc.) to specifically redistributing wealth (Social security/Medicare do this to an extent, and I'd like to point out that your father, if he had gotten to keep more of his money, would have done better without Medicare). And the evidence in my sig shows that INCREASING the level of socialism is horrible for a country.

There should be no such thing as "public" anything. Taxation is stealing, and is immoral, simple as that. Government seeks to have a monopoly on these sorts of things so that they can INDOCTRINATE you into being a good little obamasheep. Taxation, and Government are two things that run fundamentally contrary to the idea of "liberty" and "property".

 

[Hoosier4Liberty]

Hardly.

The police department is socialist.

The fire department is socialist.

Public schools and universities are socialist.

Credit unions are socialist.

The U.S. military is socialist.

Social Security is socialist and has worked well for 76 years.

Medicare is socialist and is keeping my father alive.

Not all government is inherently socialist...........the problem of government is when it moves from providing services for everyone(military, fire department, public schools, etc.) to specifically redistributing wealth (Social security/Medicare do this to an extent, and I'd like to point out that your father, if he had gotten to keep more of his money, would have done better without Medicare). And the evidence in my sig shows that INCREASING the level of socialism is horrible for a country.

There should be no such thing as "public" anything. Taxation is stealing, and is immoral, simple as that. Government seeks to have a monopoly on these sorts of things so that they can INDOCTRINATE you into being a good little obamasheep. Taxation, and Government are two things that run fundamentally contrary to the idea of "liberty" and "property".

Um...how do you propose to stop people from murdering each other? Remember, economic freedom can't exist without a rule of law, which requires some government. This is why anarchist states do just as poorly as socialist kleptocracies on the economic freedom index. Limited government is the sweet spot, not no government.

 

[American4Americ]

Not all government is inherently socialist...........the problem of government is when it moves from providing services for everyone(military, fire department, public schools, etc.) to specifically redistributing wealth (Social security/Medicare do this to an extent, and I'd like to point out that your father, if he had gotten to keep more of his money, would have done better without Medicare). And the evidence in my sig shows that INCREASING the level of socialism is horrible for a country.

There should be no such thing as "public" anything. Taxation is stealing, and is immoral, simple as that. Government seeks to have a monopoly on these sorts of things so that they can INDOCTRINATE you into being a good little obamasheep. Taxation, and Government are two things that run fundamentally contrary to the idea of "liberty" and "property".

Um...how do you propose to stop people from murdering each other? Remember, economic freedom can't exist without a rule of law, which requires some government. This is why anarchist states do just as poorly as socialist kleptocracies on the economic freedom index. Limited government is the sweet spot, not no government.

You ignore the problem in of itself... government is against moral laws. How do you justify the stealing from people's hard earned money, alongside the forced monopolization of things such as "power" into a single entity?