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You dont know what need means. Good thing youre not in charge.
All we, as the greatest nation, should provide the needy as temporary assistance is food, basic shelter, communication device and healthcare.
The rest of the stuff you listed dont qualify for my standard of what "need," is. But i see we differ on that, and thats cool.
You forget where you're posting.
This is why these types of forums fail here. The leftists who post at usmb have no concept of how to make a structured (or intelligent) argument.
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They don't fail if enough people are interested and determined to help make them succeed. And sometimes there is a learning curve. I doubt you intended it as such but your comment about leftists is also ad hominem and could be against the thread rules if I had extended that to political parties and ideologies.
The forum will fail only if we don't have enough grown ups at USMB who WANT serious civil discussions of timely topics. I don't want to dictate what anybody else's opinion or perception must be--I wouldn't participate in a thread where that was mandatory because I can't imagine anything more boring. . .
. . .But I love the ability to insist that they focus on a specific concept and argue it within the framework I specify.
I honestly don't understand why something new and different seems so threatening to some people, most especially if it only applies to those who choose to participate. I just don't see why somebody would bother to participate just to complain about it being there. But that's another topic for another discussion. . . .I think I'll start a thread to discuss it.
But if we don't have enough grown ups who want focused discussion, then you're right. It will fail. Not because there are leftists but just because there aren't enough grown ups who want focused discussions.
Okay back on topic. . . .
So KG, why does "X" have a right to require me to pay for his/her healthcare or whatever/
X doesn't have a right to do that.
Thank you. Now, if you are inclined to do so, could you explain why X doesn't have a right to do that for benefit of others who might not understand why?
Because in a free society, the government is not charged with "leveling the playing field". We are not a country built on income redistribution, because societies that ARE based on income redistribution are in fact oppressive and fascist.
Well please understand I'm not disagreeing with you. And I'm also playing devil's advocate here just a bit. . . so please don't take this as nitpicking. You just gave me an opportunity to dig a little deeper.
So if we go with your observation that the government is not assign authority to redistribute wealth, then is it safe to assume that you don't see government as having the authority to assign us our rights?