Hey Libs!

Discussion in 'Middle East - General' started by OCA, Jan 31, 2005.

  1. OCA
    Offline

    OCA Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2004
    Messages:
    7,014
    Thanks Received:
    223
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Washington D.C.
    Ratings:
    +223
    Wonder how you guys are going to spin the obviously successful election and obvious rebuff to the terrorists by the people of Iraq. I mean I thought this would never happen, that we were hated vehemently and that people both Shiite, Kurd and Sunni would stay away from the polls, or were those images of people walking miles to get to the poll, the real lack of terrorist action and the 65% turnout just media hype?

    Sucks to be wrong again, doesn't it?

    We were right to go into Iraq all along now watch the Euro libs try and jump on board.
     
  2. nakedemperor
    Offline

    nakedemperor Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2004
    Messages:
    1,437
    Thanks Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    NYC
    Ratings:
    +150
    Liberals and conservatives alike are overjoyed to see the free elections of Iraqi citizens.

    Pardon me for being a killjoy, but as momentus an occasion as it was, actually voting isn't going to be the true test for a free Iraq. That's the easy part, relatively speaking. And let's not call 39 civilian deaths a lack of terrorist action, eh? Congratulations to all Iraqis, and best of luck in the turbulent transition phase to come.

    Sucks to be wrong again, doesn't it?

    I agree that we were right to go into Iraq, but we went for the wrong reasons, and then completely shifted the justification for war after no WMDs were found. The rhetorical shift is unbelievable.

    You desire for libs to be diametrcially opposed to everything you stand for isn't a reality-- we wanted the Iraqis to be free as much as the next person, but it seems that only we cared about being misdirected and mislead.
     
  3. manu1959
    Offline

    manu1959 Left Coast Isolationist

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2004
    Messages:
    13,761
    Thanks Received:
    1,625
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    california
    Ratings:
    +1,626
    funny thing .... randi rhodes is complaing on air america right now....the tinfoil heads on the DU are saying the whole thing is rigged and all the elected officials are US puppets .... ted kennedy and barbara boxer are saying the whole thing is a failure .... kerry is saying we shouldn't be there..elections would never happen and now he is saying in the future lies the test and that he was right all along :sleep:
     
  4. nakedemperor
    Offline

    nakedemperor Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2004
    Messages:
    1,437
    Thanks Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    NYC
    Ratings:
    +150
    Sorry, that "sucks to be wrong again" wasn't part of my post it was part of OCA's that i didn't in the quote box.
     
  5. dilloduck
    Offline

    dilloduck Diamond Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    53,240
    Thanks Received:
    5,552
    Trophy Points:
    1,850
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Ratings:
    +6,403
    Oh fess up----when we are misled by someone who you personally prefer to be our leader it doesn't really bug ya all that much, does it?
     
  6. manu1959
    Offline

    manu1959 Left Coast Isolationist

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2004
    Messages:
    13,761
    Thanks Received:
    1,625
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    california
    Ratings:
    +1,626
    oooooooooooo baby that nail was driven home in one stroke
     
  7. ScreamingEagle
    Offline

    ScreamingEagle Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2004
    Messages:
    12,885
    Thanks Received:
    1,609
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +2,158
    Even if we made a "mistake" about the WMDs, Libs should be DANCING WITH JOY about what is going on in Iraq:

    1. We are ending the awful torture that's been going on. (Now I know Libs hate torture, look at all the world-wide screaming they did about Abu Graib!)

    2. We are spending lots of money over there helping the poor and disenfranchised, to help the poor people get started on a better life. (Libs are always saying we should spend more money around the world to help people, I mean, they even want an international UN tax to create more money to help others!)

    3. Iraqis are now a free people. Free to speak and everything - whereas they weren't before. (Libs are always saying they believe in freedom so this is something they should really be celebrating about!)

    4. Iraqis are now holding real elections, getting a chance to really vote and actually choose their leaders. (Libs are always saying that everybody should get a chance to vote and their vote should always COUNT and the international observers were even quite satisfied this time!)

    5. Women in Iraq are now free to vote, to go to school, and whatever they choose to do whereas before they were downtrodden. (Libs are always supportive of Womens Rights everywhere, aren't they??)

    With all these wonderful reasons you would certainly think that Libs everywhere in the "International Community" would be dancing with joy about what is happening in Iraq! But, but....[oh, the shock]...they're NOT! Why are Libs everywhere so lukewarm about the REAL freedom that has come to the very happy Iraqi people?

    One just has to wonder why they are not...could it be...[dare I think this]... they are really just poseurs of freedom?
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  8. CSM
    Offline

    CSM Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2004
    Messages:
    6,907
    Thanks Received:
    708
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Northeast US
    Ratings:
    +708
    More likely they are upset because they cannot take credit for it...not even a little bit...because the war that brought this about was something they vehemently opposed.
     
  9. dmp
    Offline

    dmp Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Messages:
    13,088
    Thanks Received:
    741
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Enterprise, Alabama
    Ratings:
    +741
    I'd rather Liberals simply fess up - they are PISSED nothing major happened, and thousands weren't killed.
     
  10. nakedemperor
    Offline

    nakedemperor Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2004
    Messages:
    1,437
    Thanks Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    NYC
    Ratings:
    +150
    That's disgusting. Utterly disgusting. You're pretty darn rational 99% of the time Darin, but this is over the line.

    I'm pissed off when I'm misled regardless of who is misleading me; I'm pretty sure you're refering in large part to Bill Clinton, but let's face it, the most oft-referenced misleading Clinton ever did was saying he didn't have sex with Monica Lewinsky. That's kind of apples and oranges in terms of comparing it to how we were hoodwinked by members of both parties into believing that Iraq was the gravest threat to the U.S. in twenty years... and then completely disregarding that impetus when the deception was understood in the form of zero WMDs in favor of the new freedom on the march initiative. Its a great initiative, but it damn sure wasn't why we went to Iraq, and it frustrates me to see so many people swallowing this talk hook, line and sinker, so eager to be given re-rationalization for this war. And let's face it, as Jon Stewart put it, the election was "one good day" for Iraqis. Key word "one". There are going to be a helluva lot of crappy days for Iraqis, even if democracy eventually succeeds.

    There are libs out there to whom the sentiment in the OP should be directed. Ted Kennedy should shut his Jabba the Hut yapper about how our incursion into Iraq was a catastrophic failure, because that's horseshit. We succeed in giving the Iraqis a chance for freedom. Our MANAGEMENT towards this goal was a catastrophic failure, but Democracy gaining a toe-hold is a great success. That said, I'm not willing to wear the wool pulled over my eyes in the first place TOO proudly merely because we succeeded in achieving a re-rationalized goal for incursion.
     

Share This Page