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Tell me how this is bunk. The OP gave a link to actual quotes of our founding fathers.
I understand them but I would suggest thet you are the one missing the historical contexts of the very quotes you cite.
Read the link and the actual quotes. Then explain why you don't understand them.
I understand them.
I would submit that it is you who is lacking in understanding the historical context of these quotes!
More diversion. You're good at that, but then have probably learned from the masters.
Taking from those who work and giving to those that don't is dangerous. That is exactly what our government has been doing. If the takers outnumber the makers, what then? As Margaret Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
There are able bodied people on the doles. There are millions of illegal aliens on the doles. Of course, all of them will vote for those who take from others on their behalf. That is the goal and always has been. There was never a war on poverty, just a quest for power. No one is elevated because of welfare, they have simply been made comfortable in poverty and that is why they've stayed there. We have a whole new definition of poverty these days, which simply means that people have to do less toward their own survival and government subsidizes the rest. Why would people attempt to become more educated or find a better job when the government makes up the difference? Many of our "poor" really aren't poor. They are more comfortable with less effort than the rest of us.
The average welfare family, with at least one member working full time, has more disposable income that middle class families who don't accept any welfare. Something to think about because those who pay have it harder than those who receive.
I do agree with most of your post.
I do!
The sociological problems with just "ending" this dependent culture abruptly though are immense.
Isn't it a moot point at this juncture to just say "if only we didn't have.....(fill in the blank)?
I don't see how that kind of musing is productive. Do you?