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Tell me how this is bunk. The OP gave a link to actual quotes of our founding fathers.
I understand them but I would suggest thet you are the one missing the historical contexts of the very quotes you cite.
Read the link and the actual quotes. Then explain why you don't understand them.
I understand them.
I would submit that it is you who is lacking in understanding the historical context of these quotes!
More diversion. You're good at that, but then have probably learned from the masters.
Taking from those who work and giving to those that don't is dangerous. That is exactly what our government has been doing. If the takers outnumber the makers, what then? As Margaret Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
There are able bodied people on the doles. There are millions of illegal aliens on the doles. Of course, all of them will vote for those who take from others on their behalf. That is the goal and always has been. There was never a war on poverty, just a quest for power. No one is elevated because of welfare, they have simply been made comfortable in poverty and that is why they've stayed there. We have a whole new definition of poverty these days, which simply means that people have to do less toward their own survival and government subsidizes the rest. Why would people attempt to become more educated or find a better job when the government makes up the difference? Many of our "poor" really aren't poor. They are more comfortable with less effort than the rest of us.
The average welfare family, with at least one member working full time, has more disposable income that middle class families who don't accept any welfare. Something to think about because those who pay have it harder than those who receive.
Brainwashed to nonfunction...Affordable, guaranteed Health Care and taking care of the victims of the Pub depression is not communism, shytteheads...The FF were the big gov't liberals of their day- compared to kings fegging the people...
people like you want gov controll and intervention in every aspect of American life ...it's that simple !!Well said!
It is just too easy these days to simplify complex problems by blaming them on one political ideology over another.
I see it on both the "right" and the "left!"
I understand them.
I would submit that it is you who is lacking in understanding the historical context of these quotes!
More diversion. You're good at that, but then have probably learned from the masters.
Taking from those who work and giving to those that don't is dangerous. That is exactly what our government has been doing. If the takers outnumber the makers, what then? As Margaret Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
There are able bodied people on the doles. There are millions of illegal aliens on the doles. Of course, all of them will vote for those who take from others on their behalf. That is the goal and always has been. There was never a war on poverty, just a quest for power. No one is elevated because of welfare, they have simply been made comfortable in poverty and that is why they've stayed there. We have a whole new definition of poverty these days, which simply means that people have to do less toward their own survival and government subsidizes the rest. Why would people attempt to become more educated or find a better job when the government makes up the difference? Many of our "poor" really aren't poor. They are more comfortable with less effort than the rest of us.
The average welfare family, with at least one member working full time, has more disposable income that middle class families who don't accept any welfare. Something to think about because those who pay have it harder than those who receive.
I do agree with most of your post.
I do!
The sociological problems with just "ending" this dependent culture abruptly though are immense.
Isn't it a moot point at this juncture to just say "if only we didn't have.....(fill in the blank)?
I don't see how that kind of musing is productive. Do you?
we are running out of money fast !!! the answer is tax and spend !!I understand them.
I would submit that it is you who is lacking in understanding the historical context of these quotes!
More diversion. You're good at that, but then have probably learned from the masters.
Taking from those who work and giving to those that don't is dangerous. That is exactly what our government has been doing. If the takers outnumber the makers, what then? As Margaret Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
There are able bodied people on the doles. There are millions of illegal aliens on the doles. Of course, all of them will vote for those who take from others on their behalf. That is the goal and always has been. There was never a war on poverty, just a quest for power. No one is elevated because of welfare, they have simply been made comfortable in poverty and that is why they've stayed there. We have a whole new definition of poverty these days, which simply means that people have to do less toward their own survival and government subsidizes the rest. Why would people attempt to become more educated or find a better job when the government makes up the difference? Many of our "poor" really aren't poor. They are more comfortable with less effort than the rest of us.
The average welfare family, with at least one member working full time, has more disposable income that middle class families who don't accept any welfare. Something to think about because those who pay have it harder than those who receive.
I do agree with most of your post.
I do!
The sociological problems with just "ending" this dependent culture abruptly though are immense.
Isn't it a moot point at this juncture to just say "if only we didn't have.....(fill in the blank)?
I don't see how that kind of musing is productive. Do you?
Taking from those who work and giving to those that don't is dangerous. That is exactly what our government has been doing. If the takers outnumber the makers, what then? As Margaret Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
There are able bodied people on the doles. There are millions of illegal aliens on the doles. Of course, all of them will vote for those who take from others on their behalf. That is the goal and always has been. There was never a war on poverty, just a quest for power. No one is elevated because of welfare, they have simply been made comfortable in poverty and that is why they've stayed there. We have a whole new definition of poverty these days, which simply means that people have to do less toward their own survival and government subsidizes the rest. Why would people attempt to become more educated or find a better job when the government makes up the difference? Many of our "poor" really aren't poor. They are more comfortable with less effort than the rest of us.
The average welfare family, with at least one member working full time, has more disposable income that middle class families who don't accept any welfare. Something to think about because those who pay have it harder than those who receive.
More diversion. You're good at that, but then have probably learned from the masters.
Taking from those who work and giving to those that don't is dangerous. That is exactly what our government has been doing. If the takers outnumber the makers, what then? As Margaret Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
There are able bodied people on the doles. There are millions of illegal aliens on the doles. Of course, all of them will vote for those who take from others on their behalf. That is the goal and always has been. There was never a war on poverty, just a quest for power. No one is elevated because of welfare, they have simply been made comfortable in poverty and that is why they've stayed there. We have a whole new definition of poverty these days, which simply means that people have to do less toward their own survival and government subsidizes the rest. Why would people attempt to become more educated or find a better job when the government makes up the difference? Many of our "poor" really aren't poor. They are more comfortable with less effort than the rest of us.
The average welfare family, with at least one member working full time, has more disposable income that middle class families who don't accept any welfare. Something to think about because those who pay have it harder than those who receive.
I do agree with most of your post.
I do!
The sociological problems with just "ending" this dependent culture abruptly though are immense.
Isn't it a moot point at this juncture to just say "if only we didn't have.....(fill in the blank)?
I don't see how that kind of musing is productive. Do you?
No one, not one, is advocating to end entitlements abruptly.
Reforming, is what the Repubs are doing, not ending them abruptly.
No one on SSI now would have been affected by what Ryan proposed.
Everyone 54 and under would have had a change.
yep ...nice vision for America you lefty's have !!
this is the lefts dream for all Americans not just blacks !!! the elite leftist think all people need to be fed,housed ,and culled like cattle ....hence the term sheeple !!!
And that is sad. Many of us cannot imagine wanting or needing something and thinking the only way to have it is if someone gives it to us. It's taken years to create this class of people who don't possess the courage or confidence to do something on their own. They believe they are victims and not expected to contribute to their own well being. They have placed all their trust in government.
We saw the most stark example of this during hurricane Katrina. While people in other areas helped each other to get through disasters, in New Orleans we saw people fighting each other and not trying to help themselves, let alone their neighbors. Even the city and state officials had nothing to offer in the way of help because they had no plan. Of course, the federal government was blamed because their collective mindset is that government is always responsible for their welfare.
That woman who believed that Obama would put gas in her car and pay her mortgage isn't rare. They voted for Obama because of color and believed that he would increase the entitlements. He has promoted racial tensions and caused minorities to feel more like victims. They counted on him to really get even for the sins of the past.
While some believed that electing the first black president would prove we weren't racist, the liberals have tried to spin things to show the opposite is true because Obama actually got criticized. Even though every other president in history has been criticized over policies, the left tries to pretend that Obama's policies are perfect and therefore it must be racism if people don't agree with him.
Many will reject liberal ideas no matter where they come from and that is always what it's about.
Brainwashed to nonfunction...Affordable, guaranteed Health Care and taking care of the victims of the Pub depression is not communism, shytteheads...The FF were the big gov't liberals of their day- compared to kings fegging the people...
If that was true, then why has the income for 99% of American's gone down in the last 40 years and the top 1%'s income has gone up?Taking from those who work and giving to those that don't is dangerous. That is exactly what our government has been doing.
1st there would be very few productive people left to creat business and pay taxes ,and that alone would wipeout the lazy left !!Ponder this: If all Conservatives were removed from America, what would America be like in 10 years, 100 years? Conversely, if all Liberals were removed from America, what would America be like in 10 years, 100 years?
