Here’s how you get a college degree without forcing other people to pay for it….

[Lisa558]

First, recognize that less than half of high school graduates are actually college-material, and instead enroll in a vocational trade program. If your family is lower-income, you’ll get Pell Grants.

Now, for the 40% or so who DO have the intelligence and discipline to make it through four years, here’s how you do it:

1) Attend community college for the first two years: $10,000 for both years.

2) Get a B average, and an academic transfer scholarship to your state university for the last two years. With the reduced tuition of the scholarship, tuition will be around $15,000 for both years.

Total tuition for all four years of college: $25,000 (or less than a car loan)

3) Work summers, earning around $5000 per summer, or $4500 after taxes. Apply the $18,000 to the tuition, and you only have $7000 to borrow.

4) Say what? You want to live on campus the last two years, and that will cost another $20,000? Then get a job between sophomore and junior year, full-time, and earn the money. You can transfer a year later and pay for room and board.

So what’s wrong with this plan? It’s a way to graduate from college with a debt of a few thousand dollars, if that, and not expect the working class to pat for it.

 

[pknopp]

We can do this all day.

Want to know how to be a bank without having to get your failed institute bailed out?

Next.

 

[1srelluc]

We can do this all day.

Want to know how to be a bank without having to get your failed institute bailed out?

Next.

What, are real world solutions to a problem hard for you to fathom?

 

[pknopp]

What, are real world solutions to a problem hard for you to fathom?

I'm not sure what I didn't fathom.

 

[22lcidw]

We can do this all day.

Want to know how to be a bank without having to get your failed institute bailed out?

Next.

The inner cities have access to thousands of times more resources than men and women did during the Great Depression of all backgrounds. And yet there are issues.

 

[Lisa558]

We can do this all day.

Want to know how to be a bank without having to get your failed institute bailed out?

Next.

The banks had to repay their loans, and it was done to prevent a complete economic collapse.

But nice attempt at deflecting. So tell me: what’s wrong with the process I laid out above? A student could go that route, and end up graduating first in her class and Phi Beta Kappa - and STILL graduate at age 22 (instead of 21) - with little or no debt.

 

[Lisa558]

What, are real world solutions to a problem hard for you to fathom?

Any solution that requires an individual to take responsibility for himself rather than make other people cover his expenses is difficult for libtards to fathom.

 

[pknopp]

The inner cities have access to thousands of times more resources than men and women did during the Great Depression of all backgrounds. And yet there are issues.

We obviously learned nothing from the depression.

 

[pknopp]

The banks had to repay their loans, and it was done to prevent a complete economic collapse.

We have went over this many times. They did not repay all their loans (and to note, students will still have to repay most of their loans) but that isn't the only way to boosted the banks. The billions and billions the Fed pumped did the same thing.

But nice attempt at deflecting. So tell me: what’s wrong with the process I laid out above? A student could go that route, and end up graduating first in her class and Phi Beta Kappa - and STILL graduate at age 22 (instead of 21) - with little or no debt.

I don't support bailing anyone out. I'll note your defense of bailing others out.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

First, recognize that less than half of high school graduates are actually college-material, and instead enroll in a vocational trade program. If your family is lower-income, you’ll get Pell Grants.

Now, for the 40% or so who DO have the intelligence and discipline to make it through four years, here’s how you do it:

1) Attend community college for the first two years: $10,000 for both years.

2) Get a B average, and an academic transfer scholarship to your state university for the last two years. With the reduced tuition of the scholarship, tuition will be around $15,000 for both years.

Total tuition for all four years of college: $25,000 (or less than a car loan)

3) Work summers, earning around $5000 per summer, or $4500 after taxes. Apply the $18,000 to the tuition, and you only have $7000 to borrow.

4) Say what? You want to live on campus the last two years, and that will cost another $20,000? Then get a job between sophomore and junior year, full-time, and earn the money. You can transfer a year later and pay for room and board.

So what’s wrong with this plan? It’s a way to graduate from college with a debt of a few thousand dollars, if that, and not expect the working class to pat for it.

Or one could join the military, take classes while on active duty using Tuition Assistance, then when you get out use your GI Bill to fishing your degree and get your Masters.

Oh wait, that is forcing others to pay for your college degree also.

Hmmm

 

[DBA]

Any solution that requires an individual to take responsibility for himself rather than make other people cover his expenses is difficult for libtards to fathom.

Bingo

 

[Muhammed]

We can do this all day.

Want to know how to be a bank without having to get your failed institute bailed out?

Next.

Bailed out by whom?

 

[maybelooking]

If you leftards cant figure this out.....ill put you in touch with my daughter who will have her masters degree this coming May and wont owe a dime to anyone for it.

if you aren't smart enough to figure out how to do this you have no business in college to begin with. idiots.

 

[rightwinger]

First, recognize that less than half of high school graduates are actually college-material, and instead enroll in a vocational trade program. If your family is lower-income, you’ll get Pell Grants.

Now, for the 40% or so who DO have the intelligence and discipline to make it through four years, here’s how you do it:

1) Attend community college for the first two years: $10,000 for both years.

2) Get a B average, and an academic transfer scholarship to your state university for the last two years. With the reduced tuition of the scholarship, tuition will be around $15,000 for both years.

Total tuition for all four years of college: $25,000 (or less than a car loan)

3) Work summers, earning around $5000 per summer, or $4500 after taxes. Apply the $18,000 to the tuition, and you only have $7000 to borrow.

4) Say what? You want to live on campus the last two years, and that will cost another $20,000? Then get a job between sophomore and junior year, full-time, and earn the money. You can transfer a year later and pay for room and board.

So what’s wrong with this plan? It’s a way to graduate from college with a debt of a few thousand dollars, if that, and not expect the working class to pat for it.

Good Start

Include an increase in minimum wage to $15 which will allow College students to earn $9000 over the summer. Income spent on education should be tax free

Incentivize business to offer internships with work/study

Provide free national online college courses that all colleges must accept

Encourage students to join military and public service to earn scholarships

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Bailed out by whom?

You and I (assuming you live in the US)

 

[Lisa558]

Good Start

Include an increase in minimum wage to $15 which will allow College students to earn $9000 over the summer. Income spent on education should be tax free

Incentivize business to offer internships with work/study

Provide free national online college courses that all colleges must accept

Encourage students to join military and public service to earn scholarships

Those are good ideas, although $15 an hour might be a bit high if you’re in a low-cost area. Still, where I live, they’re already paying $17 and $18 an hour.

 

[initforme]

The thread implies we need people to work lower wage jobs. Those jobs don't need to be done.

 

[pknopp]

Bailed out by whom?

Why does it matter? If it's wrong, it's wrong no matter who does it, is it not?

 

[Lisa558]

The thread implies we need people to work lower wage jobs. Those jobs don't need to be done.

At least half the people in this country don’t have what it takes to graduate from college. They need to learn plumbing, HVAC systems, and other skilled trades.

 

[pknopp]

First, recognize that less than half of high school graduates are actually college-material, and instead enroll in a vocational trade program. If your family is lower-income, you’ll get Pell Grants.

I meant to address this before. A Pell Grant is no different than covering some higher education costs. Who do you think pays for these grants?