Here is a politician I could behind…

[miketx]

Oh, man, this character is calling us all these names just like the leftists do??????? Well, that really stinks. I think Hurd will find that Republicans don't like being called names by a RINO anymore than we like being called Deplorables by Hillary Clinton.

I went back to the OP to find out if this Hurd IS anti-Trump, but that I couldn't find. He sounds quite unattractive what with the name-calling. I'm already traumatized by my miserable governor Hogan and his anti-everything-Republican, as if that's going to help him, and I don't need another one like him.

No he's a leftist. Just another democrat pos.

 

[jwoodie]

Thought it was about Hurd … perhaps you SHOULD actually read it if you are going to discuss it.

Perhaps YOU should actually read my post before mischaracterizing it:

I don't like reading a long post only to discover that nothing has been added.

Or do you consider highlighting certain phrases to be a valuable addition?

But let's move on: Why do you/he think that Republicans should rethink their "fixation" on Critical Race Theory? Isn't that an official policy of the U.S. Government?

And what about his "solution" for (illegal) immigration:

the construction of a cutting-edge “virtual wall” utilizing cameras and fiber-optic cables to monitor illegal crossings;

Are you seriously suggesting that this would prevent unauthorized border crossings? If so, how?

But this paragraph is the real meat of your feigned desire for "compromise:"

Those bad decisions are evident when it comes to big, history-forming events, such as the party’s enabling of Donald Trump’s assault on American democracy. But the bad decisions are also made subtly, in response to smaller episodes every single day, often to accommodate the party’s ugliest impulses. (The third chapter of Hurd’s book, written as an open letter to the Republican Party, is titled “Don’t Be an Asshole, Racist, Misogynist, or Homophobe.”)

Clever? Not so much.

 

[Circe]

No he's a leftist. Just another democrat pos.

I looked him up. He's black, apparently, or black-Mexican. He IS Republican, however, at least on paper. I'm probably not going to like him. How about somebody who ISN'T black? Could we do that for a change?

William Hurd "served as the U.S. representative for Texas's 23rd congressional district from 2015 to 2021. The district stretches about 550 miles (890 km) from San Antonio to El Paso along the U.S.-Mexican border."

So this guy used to be a congressman, and isn't even in the House of Representatives now. I guess he needs a job --- he sure is aiming high if the only work he can think of is President of the United States.

William Hurd

 

[Mac-7]

That post makes no sense to me. Hurd was clearly saying he sought a secure border.
They knew Hurd would offer a set of solutions—the mass streamlining of legal immigration for both high-skilled workers and low-skilled laborers; the construction of a cutting-edge “virtual wall” utilizing cameras and fiber-optic cables to monitor illegal crossings; the granting of citizenship to millions of “Dreamers”; the surge of funding to local agencies dealing with a mass influx of asylum seekers—that would antagonize the loudest voices in both party bases.

The goal was an enforceable border. All ways of getting there were options. That's how I read it. And face it, a "big beautiful fence" border wall was up to a fillibuster. Trump overcame it with, basically, and exec order. And it never got built.

Biden couldn't even get a compromise of AFTER SCHOOL CARE

On Dreamers see post #68

on the wall the idea of electronic monitoring along empty desert has been proposed to many times

the wall is only needed near urban areas

and in either case mobil personnel will be needed

trump voters are not against that

 

[Polishprince]

On Dreamers see post #68

on the wall the idea of electronic monitoring along empty desert has been proposed to many times

the wall is only needed near urban areas

and in either case mobil personnel will be needed

trump voters are not against that

Electronic surveillance is ok, but only if you have a mobile border patrol that can respond as people cross so they can be brought in and prosecuted.

Otherwise what's the point of seeing what they look like- even if there is facial recognition software- if they can make it past the border zone and blend in with the rest of the population.

 

[westwall]

…and he is a Republican. But he identifies the real issues we are facing with two broken parties controlled by their extremes, nationalization of what should be local politics, and entrenched politicians in safe districts that never have to do a damn thing for their constituents to get re-elected. He also identifies the external threats we SHOULD be addressing but can’t because we are obsessed with insignificant “culture war” issues that fire the “base”. His ideas on immigration should have something both wings can support but will it? It is both common sense and humane and protects our borders.

The Revenge of the Normal Republicans

Will Hurd thinks there are enough normal voters to deliver him the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. But is he right?

www.theatlantic.com

The Revenge of the Normal Republicans

Will Hurd thinks there are enough normal voters to deliver him the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. But is he right?

“Some of my friends, some of my former colleagues, they are desperate,” Hurd tells me. “They are so desperate to hold on to their positions, to hold on to their power, that they make really bad decisions.”

Those bad decisions are evident when it comes to big, history-forming events, such as the party’s enabling of Donald Trump’s assault on American democracy. But the bad decisions are also made subtly, in response to smaller episodes every single day, often to accommodate the party’s ugliest impulses. (The third chapter of Hurd’s book, written as an open letter to the Republican Party, is titled “Don’t Be an Asshole, Racist, Misogynist, or Homophobe.”)

The desperation—lawmakers catering to the loudest voices in the party base—is not healthy, Hurd says. It’s the by-product of safely partisan districts that provide more incentive to light fires than put them out. It’s the consequence of the public’s collapsing faith in the core institutions of civic society, which invites national politicians to weaponize disputes that should be addressed at the local level. It’s the expression of a country in decline—a country convinced that its existential concerns are not Chinese sabotage and Russian disinformation, but face masks in public and vaccines for a virus.


On what we could be facing:
Hurd’s book is notable for many reasons—his personal and professional journeys are legitimately compelling—but most of all for its rebuke of America’s proportionality problem. Drawing on his diverse experiences, from chasing down intelligence overseas to parsing classified documents in Congress to working with groundbreaking tech companies today, Hurd argues that we are woefully unprepared for what is coming our way. Quantum computing has the potential to break every form of encryption that guards our money and our secrets. Artificial intelligence could cut the service-based workforce in half—every two years. Biomedical advances will force questions about the ethics of rewiring our brains and halting the degradation of human cells. In the meantime, China will continue its siege of the American economy—swiping our intellectual property, snatching up our real estate, sabotaging our investments—while Russia will intensify its decades-old campaign to delegitimize our systems of government and turn Americans against one another.

His subtext is plain enough. To confront these challenges, Hurd’s colleagues in the Republican Party might need to rethink their fixation on transgender athletes and critical race theory.

“Everyone treats everything these days like it’s some damn emergency. And it’s got to stop,” Hurd says. “We’re going to be dealing with issues that are so complicated, and so life-altering, that they make the stuff we’re dealing with right now look like tickle fights.”


On immigration:
Why wouldn’t they want Hurd’s input? Simple. Because they knew he wasn’t going to tell them what they wanted to hear. They knew Hurd would offer a set of solutions—the mass streamlining of legal immigration for both high-skilled workers and low-skilled laborers; the construction of a cutting-edge “virtual wall” utilizing cameras and fiber-optic cables to monitor illegal crossings; the granting of citizenship to millions of “Dreamers”; the surge of funding to local agencies dealing with a mass influx of asylum seekers—that would antagonize the loudest voices in both party bases.

Well, sure you could. He's a leftist, statist, anti American swine

 

[Mac-7]

iT'S NOT HURD VOTERS. Here's who replaced him.

Rep.-elect Tony Gonzales helps GOP hold Texas border district: 'My story is the American dream'

Tony Gonzales, the newly elected Republican congressman from Texas, brings to Washington a drive to tackle border security and immigration reform -- examples of thorny issues that the Navy veteran says politicians have avoided for too long.

www.foxnews.com

It's voters in that district.

The subject of this thread is Hurd running for president

 

[bendog]

The subject of this thread is Hurd running for president

yes but the part of Coyote's link you were discussing was "his solutions" and why he chose not to run for reelection.

I have no idea what gop voters in 24 will demand as acceptable on immigration. But unless there is a secure border, nothing will get done. While Trump did secure the border, he managed to piss off Laura Ingraham and Pelosi so anything he proposed was pretty much DOA for both parties, and the dems CAN fillibuster.

WE got like 10-12 million illegal aliens here now. Birthright citzenship is not going anywere without the sup ct overturning precedent going back 150 years, and the 14th is pretty textually literal on it. If the dems will accept just permanent legal status for dreamers fine, but the reality is they are here, and the only "fix" is to fix the immigration law including NEW people seeking amnesty. AND THAT, not some dreamers, is the issue. His solutions were right that we have to have the immigration judges to decide those applicaitons without delays for years. And that's the hard compromise.

 

[Mac-7]

WE got like 10-12 million illegal aliens here now.

The number is at least 25-30 million

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The number is at least 25-30 million

Fantasy

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

insignificant “culture war” issues

Some of these issues actually aren’t ‘insignificant’ – they concern conservatives’ efforts to violate citizens’ rights and protected liberties.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If he is establishment like Nixon, Bush 41 or Bush 43, then he can go screw himself. You progs had a chance with progressive John McCain, you know the Maverick darling of the Republican Party, but instead you voted for the brown turd Obammy, which after 8 years , gave US the great President Donald Trump, MAGA baby..Lowest unemployment rate for women, blacks, and Hispanics, low prices for energy and no empty shelves.

He's a "CIA operative"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The number is at least 25-30 million

They all voted Biden in 2020

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

He's a "CIA operative"

So was George Bush 41, we saw how well that went.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Those bad decisions are evident when it comes to big, history-forming events, such as the party’s enabling of Donald Trump’s assault on American democracy. But the bad decisions are also made subtly, in response to smaller episodes every single day, often to accommodate the party’s ugliest impulses. (The third chapter of Hurd’s book, written as an open letter to the Republican Party, is titled “Don’t Be an Asshole, Racist, Misogynist, or Homophobe.”)

It would be nice if actual conservatives were to take control of the GOP – actual conservatives who were consistent in their small government dogma; small government where Republicans oppose more government, bigger government banning abortion, where Republicans oppose more government, bigger government discriminating against gay and transgender Americans, and where Republicans oppose more government, bigger government violating the voting rights of citizens.

But no one should hold his breath.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The moderates are the one’s able to cross the aisle and work with tbe other side to pass things. They seem to be a dying breed though.

But something just occurred to me and I should look it up. There was a veterans group funding veteran candidates for either party and one of their planks was a willingness to work with the other side and pass legislation. Don’t know how successful they have been.

You never cross the isles with people you have nothing in common with.
What are you willing to compromise?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It would be nice if actual conservatives were to take control of the GOP – actual conservatives who were consistent in their small government dogma; small government where Republicans oppose more government, bigger government banning abortion, where Republicans oppose more government, bigger government discriminating against gay and transgender Americans, and where Republicans oppose more government, bigger government violating the voting rights of citizens.

But no one should hold his breath.

Nothing you posted delt with a small limited government. Dumbass

 

[Coyote]

Well, sure you could. He's a leftist, statist, anti American swine

Oh for God’s sakes

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Oh for God’s sakes

In other words he's a rino

 

[Coyote]

Never heard of Hurd.

I wouldn't go so far as to vote for Biden! I'd just not vote at all first.

The important thing about voting for Trump is that it's a good reaction to all the hate speech and orders at us and hysterical complaints the Left uses as propaganda ---- all counterproductive. Of course we're going to vote for Trump, with all those "deplorable" insults coming at us non-stop. Just to make them mad.

It always surprises me that the Left can't recognize that.

There isn’t exactly a shortage of deplorable insults about leftists coming from your side either.