Here is a Great CIA Report on Climatology from 1974

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    http://www.climatemonitor.it/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/1974.pdf

    global cooling was blamed for this event-
    the CIA pdf gives a concise description of climatology as it was understood then. a must read.

    h/t to S Goddard
     
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    It is the unfalsifiable hypothesis. Cooling causes storms + warming causes storms + man exists on the earth = man's activities cause warming and cooling and storms and lack of storms and snowfall and lack of snowfall and sea level rise and lack of sea level rise, and on and on and on ad infinitum...........

    No matter what happens, it has to be man and his insatiable greed that caused it.
     
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    wow! one person responded.

    this is a snapshot of climate science in 1974 and the very real expectation of disaster from global cooling. it kinda disproves Old Rock's theory that only news magazines believed it.

    it also uses extreme weather events to support its case just like we see today.

    same shit, different pile.
     
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    The people who like to claim that the global cooling scare was just a product of the news conveniently forget that back then there was no 24/7/365 news cycle and news reporting was very serious business as contrasted to the "entertainment" news we get today.

    Back then, a report from "scientists" meant the top dogs in the field as oppsed to any self proclaimed scientist with a liberal arts degree today. When newsweek, et al reported on global cooling back in the 70's it was because the coming ice age was a genuine concern among the brightest scientific minds of the day.

    Of course their predictions were off because they didn't have a firm handle on exactly what factors drove the climate and to what degree they did so.......just like modern climate science. Science has little more understanding of what drives the climate today than it did then. The big difference today is the media giving the impression that climate science knows all the answers and can be trusted when they claim a coming catastrophe.
     
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    I like the opening rationale for the study --- especially the part about

    * Can the Intellegience community trust the science of Climatology to forecast future changes?

    I saved this gem.. My two favorite truth-erasing orgs combined in one rich farce..
     
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    while looking for something else I stumbled on this.

    anybody interested in what the CIA thought about climatology back in the 'Coming Ice Age Scare'?
     
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    What good is any science theory in changing public opinion if you don't have immediate examples of how it affects the public today?

    While today --- no quorum of respectable climate scientists are blaming extreme weather on GW, they've made statements of what WILL happen.. A calculated move to give the MEDIA and politicians clear license to interpret that prognosis as a green light for "seeing" things happening today..

    I like you comment about this showing that the Global Cooling scare really DID exist..
    Wonder if somewhere in the DOD Pentagon files --- you'd find a 197X plan for Global Cooling Contingiencies.. I'm sure it's there.. Time for a FOIA request?? Ha!!
     
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    Of course they did. That why it's called a contingency plan. And it's why they're the military and you're not.
     
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    You don't think the CIA was responding to news reports? I do.

    Look at the temperature trend from 1941 to 1979. They had a great deal more reason to believe the world might be cooling off than do any of these ignorant fudpuckers today.
     
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    LOLOLOL....amazing....how many more times are you denier cult morons going to try to push this completely discredited myth? Have you no shame at all?

    The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus
    Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society
    - 89, 1325–1337.
    Thomas C. Peterson - NOAA/National Climatic Data Center, Asheville, North Carolina
    William M. Connolley - British Antarctic Survey, National Environment Research Council, Cambridge, United Kingdom
    John Fleck - Albuquerque Journal, Albuquerque, New Mexico
    September 2008

    Abstract
    Climate science as we know it today did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s. The integrated enterprise embodied in the Nobel Prizewinning work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change existed then as separate threads of research pursued by isolated groups of scientists. Atmospheric chemists and modelers grappled with the measurement of changes in carbon dioxide and atmospheric gases, and the changes in climate that might result. Meanwhile, geologists and paleoclimate researchers tried to understand when Earth slipped into and out of ice ages, and why. An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.
     

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