Here come the salt police!!!!

[Vanquish]

This has already been addressed in other threads, but great job beating a dead horse.

Questioning this action is basically questioning the constitutionality of the FDA. Are you prepared to put forth a decent argument that the FDA isn't constitutional?

Because an organization is Constitutional does not mean every thing it does is for the benefit of the people it is supposed to be serving. Further because an organization is Constitutional does not preclude one from trying to stop them from implementing bad policy or law.

Nice attempt to deflect though. Ohh and provide links to all these other threads please.

Indeed. Being "Constitutional" doesn't give any position or organization unfettered power to do whatever it wants.

Where the FUCK did I say it did? I'm simply pointing out the crux of the fucking issue. Apparently everyone here wants to dance around singing zippidy-freaking-doda without actually drilling down to the real issues.

No, instead its more fun to get on your chicken little box and scream "THe government's fucking up" instead of looking at the mechanisms, critically, of how the salt thing is happening.

And yes, the FDA has made mistakes and isn't always right...but I dont see you discussing the constitutionality of the proposed restrictions...just general comments with no legal precedent or citation to authority. General, "fuck the dems" bullshit as usual.

Making this entire thread worthless.

 

[Samson]

They're lowering the salt content of processed food slowly. I don't see anything wrong in that.

Processed foods have so much other garbage added it doesn't really matter how much they lower the sodium content anyway, it still won't make it good for you to eat. You can still take a salt shaker and kill yourself with the stuff anyway.

Exactly.

But essentially, the Gubment is saying that most Americans aren't as intelligent as you, and cannot read the sodium content on processed food lables, or listen to repeated warnings, over the past few decades, to decrease salt consuption.

Frankly, I don't think the Fed's are serious enough about abating the stupidity of the public.

 

[Jarhead]

Interesting. Government believes we are not smart enough to make our own decisions based on our salt intake but they believe we are smart enough to decide if we should smoke and thus why cigarettes are legal.

Sure, makes a lot of sense.

 

[Samson]

Interesting. Government believes we are not smart enough to make our own decisions based on our salt intake but they believe we are smart enough to decide if we should smoke and thus why cigarettes are legal.

Sure, makes a lot of sense.

Well, you don't want to lose the tobacco tax.

Why not just have a salt tax?

 

[Gatekeeper]

Interesting. Government believes we are not smart enough to make our own decisions based on our salt intake but they believe we are smart enough to decide if we should smoke and thus why cigarettes are legal.

Sure, makes a lot of sense.

The government knows we are too smart for them anymore, that's why they seem to be trying to pollute the media along with other methods, using the old smoke and mirrors, 'confus'em' with mediocre bullshit routine so we can't see what's under all the shells they are moving around the table, and it's working, so far.

 

[saveliberty]

Interesting. Government believes we are not smart enough to make our own decisions based on our salt intake but they believe we are smart enough to decide if we should smoke and thus why cigarettes are legal.

Sure, makes a lot of sense.

Well, you don't want to lose the tobacco tax.

Why not just have a salt tax?

Sugar tax
Things with sharp edges tax
Trip hazard tax
Bad wiper blade tax
Having a pet tax
Drinking bottled water tax
Not having large enough house numbers tax
Showing up late for work tax
Running the lawn mower without steel toed boots tax

 

[G.T.]

Salt on Watermelon? Hmm, maybe I'll check it out.

 

[G.T.]

Interesting. Government believes we are not smart enough to make our own decisions based on our salt intake but they believe we are smart enough to decide if we should smoke and thus why cigarettes are legal.

Sure, makes a lot of sense.

Well, you don't want to lose the tobacco tax.

Why not just have a salt tax?

Sugar tax
Things with sharp edges tax
Trip hazard tax
Bad wiper blade tax
Having a pet tax
Drinking bottled water tax
Not having large enough house numbers tax
Showing up late for work tax
Running the lawn mower without steel toed boots tax

dicksolongittripsya tax

 

[Wry Catcher]

Did your parents not teach you to be responsible for yourself and your actions? Do you honestly think our government was formed with the purpose of caring for you and saving you from yourself?[/QUOT]

I suggest you leave my parents out of the discussion.
The broad question is, what is the purpose of government? I'd like to hear your answer to my question, though I will answers yours.
If one were to read the preamble to our Constitution and consider it to be the vision statement or mission statement of the founders, then one must consider that yes, the people came together "in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.
Consider (as conservatives are want to say) what is a literal interpretation of the "general welfare"? Might that mean the health and/or safety of the people?
Now consider (source: 2010 NY Times Almanac., page 395 "Motor Vehicle Deaths"):
Since the first reported motor vehicle death on 9/13/1899, 2.9 million people have died in auto accidents in the U.S. Over the years, however, the number of deaths per 100,000 population and 100,000 registered vehicles have declined dramatically. The motor vehicle rate in 2008 fell to an historic low...data suggests that seat belts, air bags, child safety seats, strict drunk driving laws and enforcement save thousands of lives each year.
This didn't just happen, government - local, state and federal agencies acted and the general welfare of our nations people benefited.

You might want to consider what the definition of "General Welfare" was when the the Founding Fathers adopted it, before you look too stupid. I'll give you a hint, it had a different definition than what it is today.

Reference if you will the source of the definition of "General Welfare"; and, respond to this statement: The Constitution is a living document. BTW, stupid people don't learn or ask questions. If I'm wrong I admit it, but if the definition you provide is someone's opinion, or an unsourced and apparently fabricated quote, I'll likely stay with my own.

 

[Samson]

Interesting. Government believes we are not smart enough to make our own decisions based on our salt intake but they believe we are smart enough to decide if we should smoke and thus why cigarettes are legal.

Sure, makes a lot of sense.

Well, you don't want to lose the tobacco tax.

Why not just have a salt tax?

Sugar tax
Things with sharp edges tax
Trip hazard tax
Bad wiper blade tax
Having a pet tax
Drinking bottled water tax
Not having large enough house numbers tax
Showing up late for work tax
Running the lawn mower without steel toed boots tax

Don't forget that we'll need to expand the size of government so all these taxes can be collected, and rules and regs can be enforced.

I'm thinking of applying for the job of Secretary of The Department of Anti-Stupidity.

 

[G.T.]

sexappealgivesabitchaheartattack tax
coldtoiletwateronyerballs tax

etc. etc.

 

[Samson]

sexappealgivesabitchaheartattack tax

This requires more study.

Would you like a grant?

 

[Gatekeeper]

Well, you don't want to lose the tobacco tax.

Why not just have a salt tax?

Sugar tax
Things with sharp edges tax
Trip hazard tax
Bad wiper blade tax
Having a pet tax
Drinking bottled water tax
Not having large enough house numbers tax
Showing up late for work tax
Running the lawn mower without steel toed boots tax

dicksolongittripsya tax

Holy Cow! 'dicksolongittripsya tax', if THAT tax is passed, it'll take all my savings! I am lyin, it's not that long, but it does make walkin difficult.

 

[G.T.]

sexappealgivesabitchaheartattack tax

This requires more study.

Would you like a grant?

aha, not if you're of zee male.

Well, I'm also married to a Beautiful woman.

Also, she's had several palpetations(sp?) during study, but no confirmed "attacks," and I've also been found innocent in the Homicidal Negligence trials of 27 Cardiac Arrests, and all of my Court fees have been waved by a Magical Tax Evading Socialist guy from Algers.

 

[G.T.]

Sugar tax
Things with sharp edges tax
Trip hazard tax
Bad wiper blade tax
Having a pet tax
Drinking bottled water tax
Not having large enough house numbers tax
Showing up late for work tax
Running the lawn mower without steel toed boots tax

dicksolongittripsya tax

Holy Cow! 'dicksolongittripsya tax', if THAT tax is passed, it'll take all my savings! I am lyin, it's not that long, but it does make walkin difficult.

Smackin your own nipples when you go for a jog gets tiresome and irritating

 

[Samson]

sexappealgivesabitchaheartattack tax

This requires more study.

Would you like a grant?

aha, not if you're of zee male.

Well, I'm also married to a Beautiful woman.

Also, she's had several palpetations(sp?) during study, but no confirmed "attacks," and I've also been found innocent in the Homicidal Negligence trials of 27 Cardiac Arrests, and all of my Court fees have been waved by a Magical Tax Evading Socialist guy from Algers.

I'm not suggesting you study ME.

As the Anti-Stupidty Czar, I expect to have a Huge Budget, and need to unload about $100,000 I have for this study: TAKE IT DAMNIT!!!

 

[G.T.]

This requires more study.

Would you like a grant?

aha, not if you're of zee male.

Well, I'm also married to a Beautiful woman.

Also, she's had several palpetations(sp?) during study, but no confirmed "attacks," and I've also been found innocent in the Homicidal Negligence trials of 27 Cardiac Arrests, and all of my Court fees have been waved by a Magical Tax Evading Socialist guy from Algers.

I'm not suggesting you study ME.

As the Anti-Stupidty Czar, I expect to have a Huge Budget, and need to unload about $100,000 I have for this study: TAKE IT DAMNIT!!!

This would be self depreciating. I'd be buying the theory that women catch heart attacks b/c of my sex appeal..........because they're.....stupid?

N'aw, honorary degrees, all around!~

 

[chanel]

Wrong.

The fat guy down the street does not affect me in the least. the smoker in the next town does not affect me in the least.

The guy who puts 5 pounds of salt on his bacon and eggs every morning does not affect me in the least.

The insurance costs argument don't hold water either because high risk candidates pay more than I do. (Or at least they used to until government got involved)

It's not just insurance costs, it's actual Doctor/Hospital costs. And yeah, it does affect you.

It is all false concern on the government's part. As was mentioned earlier here, cigarettes and alcohol are far more dangerous, but as long as they can tax it, no problem. They are even making an effort to EXPAND the number of unhealthy drugs you can take legally.

I was just going to say that. Doesn't it seem that the same people screaming "my body; my choice" and who want to legalize drugs are the ones on here defending the nanny state? Salt bad - ganja good.

Give me a fucking break.

I'm also curious about how this will affect imports. Will Chinese fortune cookies and imported cheeses be held to the same standard as American food? Or will they be banned completely?

This country has bigger problems right now. It's not the processed foods that have my blood pressure rising.

HEY FEDS - GO ON VACATION! WE'LL PAY!!!!!!

 

[Samson]

aha, not if you're of zee male.

Well, I'm also married to a Beautiful woman.

Also, she's had several palpetations(sp?) during study, but no confirmed "attacks," and I've also been found innocent in the Homicidal Negligence trials of 27 Cardiac Arrests, and all of my Court fees have been waved by a Magical Tax Evading Socialist guy from Algers.

I'm not suggesting you study ME.

As the Anti-Stupidty Czar, I expect to have a Huge Budget, and need to unload about $100,000 I have for this study: TAKE IT DAMNIT!!!

This would be self depreciating. I'd be buying the theory that women catch heart attacks b/c of my sex appeal..........because they're.....stupid?

N'aw, honorary degrees, all around!~

Ok, now I'll just need to find some Sociology Professor at the University of Bullshit Studies to take my offer.

 

[kwc57]

Salt on Watermelon? Hmm, maybe I'll check it out.

You'll never go back......trust me.