healthy civilization vs. leftist policies

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    Diuretic thought this would be an interesting discussion so here goes.

    With the mortgage bail out and Obama championing universal health care I have to wonder the path the left is leading us down.

    Very broadely the left seems to continually enact policies that shift personal responsibility from the individual to government. The ramificaations of which are staggering.

    As a rule we become smarter, grow stronger, by meeting and overcomeing challenges. Our behavior is governed by the things that negatively impact us. We learn not to repeat behaviors that have a negative impact on us. The ol' the young child doesn't learn it'll hurt to touch the hot stove until he/she burns themselves on the hot stove. Yet in burning themselves the child has gained knowledge. A type of knowledge that is irreplaceable from just say mommy telling you that's gonna hurt. You won't even be curious about it anymore. You now know what will happen if you touch the hot stove, so you don't it again.

    The left seems to be overly preoccupied with keeping people from 'burning' themselves. The mortgage bail out is a prime example. How are homebuyers going to learn not to take loans they have financial business taking out, if the government is just going to bail them out? How are banks going to learn to not approve such high risk loans, if the government is going to bail them out?

    Under something like universal heatlhcare, how is removing the financal burden of healthcare an insentive for people to change their health habits?

    All of these things make us weaker as a civilization because we are prevented from experiencing and responsibily dealing with the consequences of our actions. We don't have to deal with adversity anymore. It's like getting an A for effort. I got an A for trying to learn but not actually learning. Meanwhile the person who actual did learn has just be shown he really didn't need to put that kind of effort forth because he could have gotten an just for trying.
     
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    Socialism always makes everyone weaker.
     
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    Nothing has weakened America more than Ronald Reagan and George Bush. 90% of our National Debt came from Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

    Talk about abdicating personal responsibility!
     
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    Still spouting that left wing slogal and outright lie...


    Here's a hint... start looking at the actual numbers and facts rather than only the things you see from far left-wing activists....
     
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    Reagan's own budget director said that the tax cuts were a "trojan horse" to lower taxes for the rich....

    ReaganBushDebt.org
     
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    As stated... stop with the left wing propaganda and look at the facts....

    Let you not forget the almost 2 trillion in additional debt under Clinton, the almost 1.5 MIL under GHWB, and the 900BIL before Reagan
     
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    Kirk never lets facts get in his way.

    You forgot to point out that Reagan served all 8 years with a Democrat Congress holding the purse strings.
     
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    More lies.

    Aren't you ashamed?

    U.S. National Debt Graph
     
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    Reagan's budget was passed with all the Republicans and a few southern dixiecrats voting for it.

    Talk about abdicating responsibility!
     
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    Dumb ass!! that graph shows Debt as a % of GDP and there for goes down with the growth of GDP.

    Your other favorite link. ReaganBushDebt.org is a completely biased propaganda link, and you sit here and try to claim the high ground while calling everyone else liars. Pretty sad dude.
     

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