Healthcare Reform Report Card = Obamacare vs. the best insurance on the planet

Healthcare Reform Report Card

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Single-Payer (HR 676 and S 703) Expanded Medicare for All Vs. Proposed Healthcare “Private insurance with Public Option”

http://www.healthcare-now.org/docs/spreport.pdf

Single-Payer National Health Insurance | Physicians for a National Health Program
Physicians for a National Health Program

I would advocate for national health care as opposed to single-payer insurance. For profit insurance is only half the problem, for profit health care as the only option is the other half of the problem. We don't have to outlaw private healthcare, but we can force them to compete with national healthcare hospitals, clinics and pharmacies.
 
keep in mind that capitalism is far more efficient than socialism. Do you need that explained too??

Yes I'd love for you explain why when you just include our private health spending we spend 4 times more despite having worse out comes.

capitalism is competitive. This is why Red China just switched to it to save 60 million from slow liberal starvation. Are you going to tell them they made a mistake and should go back to being communists?
 
It's a little bit late (by years) to be touting this when from 1994 to 2006 the GOP did nothing to resolve the issue.

China switched to capitalism after 5000 years and instantly went from starvation liberal poverty to amazing riches. It certainly wasn't too late for the 60 million who didn't starve to death, was it?.
 
It's a little bit late (by years) to be touting this when from 1994 to 2006 the GOP did nothing to resolve the issue.

China switched to capitalism after 5000 years and instantly went from starvation liberal poverty to amazing riches. It certainly wasn't too late for the 60 million who didn't starve to death, was it?.

Edward, quit raving about China. We are talking about responsibility here, and the far right of the party's irresponsibility. A Romney election is not going to end progressive-era, or New Deal or Great Society programs. Get over it. Not going to happen,
 
and the far right of the party's irresponsibility.

why would advocating freedom from liberal government be irresponsible when it is our founding idea?????????? Are you a communist?



A Romney election is not going to end progressive-era, or New Deal or Great Society programs. Get over it. Not going to happen,


Not a Romney election alone of course but a significant and long term shift back to our founding principles. It seems possible now given the accumulating evidence from China Cuba East Germany Stalinst Russia Red China.
 
EB=:cuckoo: :lol:
The main reason other countries spend less than the USA for healthcare is because their governments negotiate healthcare pricing with healthcare providers. And it doesn't cost the taxpayer anything. But, OMG those government are interfering in the free markets!!!! So, with the US with it's free markets and billions of dollars spent by the healthcare industry to lobby our government, we can rest assured that the American citizen and US businesses will continue to pay the highest prices for healthcare in the world by far!
We're Number 1!
 
Edward, the far right of the GOP has been deficient in resolving this issue. Why are you talking about the Red Chinese? Are you a communist.

Our founding principles are grounded in Great Society and New Deal programs. You keep talking about the former East Germany and Red China and communist China. Are you in favor of super statist programs like theirs?
 
Our founding principles are grounded in Great Society and New Deal programs. ?

the Great Society was a near genocide against American blacks that destroyed the family, sent the men to jail, impoverished the children, and created hip hop culture.

The New Deal was a great depression that went on for 10 years and resulted in 60 million dead in world war. It makes sense that a liberal would say these were founding principles because doing so is perfectly stupid.
 
The main reason other countries spend less than the USA for healthcare is because their governments negotiate healthcare pricing with healthcare providers.


yes, I get it, when the government negotiates they get a better price. If they negotiated for everything we could get everythng cheap and all be rich. Is that what the liberal would like???

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow?? Is there any other explanation??
 
Our founding principles are grounded in Great Society and New Deal programs.

the Great Society was a near genocide against American blacks that destroyed the family, sent the men to jail, impoverished the children, and created hip hop culture.

The New Deal was a great depression that went on for 10 years and resulted in 60 million dead in world war. It makes sense that a liberal would say these were founding principles because doing so is perfectly stupid.

Edward, where did you learn history? The Great Society that cut poverty by 50% in six years? The Great Society that led to the growth of the black middle class?

The New Deal that reformed banking and exchange practices so that, until Glass Stegal was ended more than 60 years later, there was no Great Recession? The New Deal that gave hope for scores of millions of Americans for a better America?

You are a fucking scoundrel or a fucking idiot. Either you are malignantly motivated or are a feeble minded idiot.
 
The main reason other countries spend less than the USA for healthcare is because their governments negotiate healthcare pricing with healthcare providers.


yes, I get it, when the government negotiates they get a better price. If they negotiated for everything we could get everythng cheap and all be rich. Is that what the liberal would like???

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow?? Is there any other explanation??

Are you high on something? That would explain such an incoherent response.
 
Best healthcare in the world if you can afford it. How many millions of Americas had insurance 10 years ago but don't today?

How many people had good insurance 10 years ago but today their insurance sucks?

Let me let you in on a little secret. Remember when the majority of your insurance was paid by you and your company and when you went to the doctor it was relatively inexpensive? The insurance companies are, as I'm sure a lot of you know, moving to the new system. YOU pay $3000 out of pocket if you are single and $6000 if you are a couple FIRST and then the insurance company kicks in after that.

And you would think this new way would be A LOT cheaper monthy than the old way but its actually more expensive. Se we are paying a HUGE monthly fee just to have insurance, that doesn't even kick in until you max out. What fucking coverage is that?

At least Obama made them give preventative care and annual checkups for free.

The Healthcare companies are gobbling up too much of our GDP. No wonder no one is buying any boats, cars, jewelry, etc. We're all saving up for the next time we get sick.

P.S. People who don't have insurance are costing each of us an extra $1000 a year. I say that's justification for the mandate.

That's all part of the Republican's plan. The number one cause of bankruptcy are medical bills. Republicans say "good" and give a "high five". Because they hate socialism.
 
Best healthcare in the world if you can afford it. How many millions of Americas had insurance 10 years ago but don't today?

How many people had good insurance 10 years ago but today their insurance sucks?

Let me let you in on a little secret. Remember when the majority of your insurance was paid by you and your company and when you went to the doctor it was relatively inexpensive? The insurance companies are, as I'm sure a lot of you know, moving to the new system. YOU pay $3000 out of pocket if you are single and $6000 if you are a couple FIRST and then the insurance company kicks in after that.

And you would think this new way would be A LOT cheaper monthy than the old way but its actually more expensive. Se we are paying a HUGE monthly fee just to have insurance, that doesn't even kick in until you max out. What fucking coverage is that?

At least Obama made them give preventative care and annual checkups for free.

The Healthcare companies are gobbling up too much of our GDP. No wonder no one is buying any boats, cars, jewelry, etc. We're all saving up for the next time we get sick.

P.S. People who don't have insurance are costing each of us an extra $1000 a year. I say that's justification for the mandate.

That's all part of the Republican's plan. The number one cause of bankruptcy are medical bills. Republicans say "good" and give a "high five". Because they hate socialism.

No, they don't high-five and say good to bankruptcy. But in the name of free markets, they do ignore common sense that would save individuals and American businesses a lot of money.
 
keep in mind that capitalism is far more efficient than socialism. Do you need that explained too??
Yes i need it explained how socialized health care being more efficient then private health care means capitalism is more efficient but you cant explain it because all you can do is regurgitate talking points you cannot think
Yes I'd love for you explain why when you just include our private health spending we spend 4 times more despite having worse out comes.

capitalism is competitive. This is why Red China just switched to it to save 60 million from slow liberal starvation. Are you going to tell them they made a mistake and should go back to being communists?
You still did not explain why private health spending is 4 times that of public despite having shittier outcomes
all you did was copy and paste some stupid shit you said before.
 
You still did not explain why private health spending is 4 times that of public despite having shittier outcomes

why be so afraid to explain what private health spending you are talking about? You think VA Medicare Schip Medicare, insurance regulation etc etc is private spending??

see why we are positve a liberal will slow. If one is slow liberalism is the position they naturally adopt, by default.
 

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