MaggieMae
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- Apr 3, 2009
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I was beginning to wonder if anyone was ever going to notice this thread jr, as this thread from the actual bill. All the talk aside, about " you like your healthcare you can keep it" there is is in black and white for all to see. When a Govt. starts to mandate things and punish those who choose not to enroll it and clearly this bill intends to take away coverage on those people in plans it does not like. The intent is clear , and it's obvious that the sheer cost of doing this will bankrupt this nation. As for the Illegal Alein healthcare issue, what do you suppose the message will be to others wishing to enter the country illegally now?
Navy, you are quoting ONLY from the House version. The Senate has yet to pass anything, even out of committee, after which the agreed-upon FINAL DRAFT will go to conference committee (between the House and the Senate) for a final version. Go here to see where it's at, right now.
Please stop SCARING people into believing this is a DONE DEAL. IT IS NOT!!!!
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You mean like how cap and trade changed during the conference right? you mean I should wait and not inform people and let people listen to the propaganda comming from the President on this issue rather than the actual bill that is before the house? No thank you I would rather work from the actual legislation they are talking about rather than listen to the person that has made claims such as "unplolyment will not rise above 8.5% with the passage of this bill". If you find this scarry then good Maggie , you should find it scarry because it is. If you have not noticed our nation is deep in dept and with the advent of proposals like this , in an effort to socially norm everyone, some would take this nation down the same path that states like Ca. have already traveled. Perhaps you may one day like to receive a IOU from social security after you spent years paying into it, but personally I don't. So I will continue to post the REAL legislation and NOT the marketing version that the President would have people believe.
Um, cap and trade isn't a done deal yet either, Navy.
You'll notice I'm not disputing any of your points concerning your aversion to the House bill. I am simply reiterating as I have done a gazillion times before that any health care reform WILL NOT look like the House version that you've spent so many hours dissecting. Not even close.
That said, you constantly go off-topic and ramble on about differences in ideologies, which we all know exist. I get sick of the constant analogy to California; the constant yammering about how Democrats are the ones who will "take us down the road to...[fill in the blank], when it remains that the overall opinion found in poll after poll finds that two-thirds of Americans want SOME KIND of health care reform in order to control the costs. YOu can read that in ALL the polls here, going all the way back to the 90s.
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