Health Care Bill Dead or "feeling happy"?

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    Two issues really. Abortion language being the obvious one and, more quietly, the Senate language on coverage for illegal immigrants. Two different groups of Democrats are still butting heads over the details. (see links below)

    Realistically they have to be about as close as they have ever been. That's not an objective judgment but a guess by virtue of the tone of some of the media and statments by Pelosi. She has claimed to have the needed votes recently but I have no doubt if that were true the vote would happen right away. Still, one can hold out the slim hope that the whole thing might still fizzle and disappear leaving us some of the few freedoms we have left.

    "Dead on arrival"? Still too soon to say. But whatever happens, how long can this dance really go on?


    Immigration provision has Hispanic Caucus threatening ?no? health vote - TheHill.com

    FOXNews.com - Senate Health Care Bill Dead on Arrival, Pro-Life House Democrats Say


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    Well, here we go. Small step in the right direction.

    Gutierrez: Health bill's immigration parts enough to vote against - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

    BTW that's a previous "yes" vote, turning into a recent "no" vote. This is just more proof that there is enough garbage of every kind to make most American's dislike the bill no matter what party (or none) they belong to.

    It's way past time to start over and try for a good reform bill.
     
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    I'll be glad when they either pass this fucking bill or defeat this damned thing and quit talking about it. I've heard enough Health Care Reform talk to last me more than a lifetime. Up or down - it's time to move on.
     
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    I'm quite sure your not alone in that opinion. lol

    However, consider this: If this current version of health care passes (the 1/6th of the economy and likely to grow version) then the health care "debate" will the number one topic and issue for the rest of our lives. (barring temporary emergencies)

    That is the case in every place that has some version of what we seek. The bureaucrats who get put in charge of overseeing the mess and the confirmation of their own overseer's in Congress will be a political battle after EVERY election and every other kind of change in the balance of power. How to keep funding it, how to make it more inclusive and how to improve service when it turns out to be less than nirvana... it will never go away.

    With our very health in government hands the issue will dwarf every other political argument America has ever had by an order of magnitude. (minus maybe the civil war)
     

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