Wry Catcher
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- #41
Both you and Westwall need to find a new country, one which has no government, no taxes and everyone is required to have a deadly weapon in their possession all of the time.
Maybe an Island somewhere in the South Pacific, you know, like the one where Ralph and Jack and Piggy thrived.
No, we are happy to pay the PROPER taxes. We are happy to have a PROPER, government, one that doesn't abuse people for being the wrong political party. We are happy to have people not carry guns, so long as those who wish to may, absent being a member of your ruling class of tyrants. You see mr. statist, the difference is we believe that the American citizen is just that, a CITIZEN. You don't. You think they are cattle, to be herded at will.
Define "Proper taxes", and it seems unseemly that you would call anyone names, i.e. Statist, when your post here ought to behave in the manor of the inferred code; that is Noblesse Oblige, defined as the responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged.
Proper taxes are those that go to maintaining a military force sufficiently strong to defend our borders, and a law enforcement presence that is capable of maintaining peace and tranquility within the borders. To properly maintain the road ways that tie the country together, and to provide a social services network to take care of those who can not take care of themselves. Not those who choose not to, but those who are incapable.
Your final comment ("Not those who choose not to, but those who are incapable") defies reality. It was true, more than less, when AFDC existed. During the Clinton Administration TANF (Temporary Assistance to Needy Families) replaced the welfare system, and provided the several states to determine a means to provide temporary assistance.
Here's a synopsis for you:
Understanding Supplemental Security Income (SSI)-- SSI and Eligibility for Other Government and State Programs
Don't be an idiot. First off social security, as it is currently set up, is a Ponzi scheme. It will go broke in 2034 at its current rate of decrease. Your problem is to buy all those votes you need, you are importing people and placing them on the dole. They are going to bankrupt the system even sooner than that, now. What are you going to to then mr smarty pants? hmmm? What are you going to do when you have run out of other peoples money?
I'm not an idiot, but it is pretty clear you are a callous conservative. Now that name calling is out of the way, maybe you will have an open mind and learn something.
The Welfare Queen no longer exists, if it ever did. I suggest you read my previous link, and then begin to learn by going to your local National Archives satellite office and peruse census reports in the late 19th and early 20th Century (1890 no longer exists, they burned in a fire***).
You will find, large numbers of mostly unrelated people living at the same address. Many women with children, and other single persons of varing ages. These are the poor houses, houses with persons who may have been injured on a job (no OSHA then) or retired with no pension. They existed all over the country and well into the 20's and 30's.
Homelessness is a problem in most urban areas. Most are alcohol or drug addicted, or suffer from various forms of mental illness.
A callous conservative says, tough shit, let 'em die on the streets. Well, that takes time, and without seeking solutions (Mental Health and Recovery from addiction services) the dead will quickly be replaced.
Even those who lack empathy, might be pragmatic, and support aid by government to try an mitigate, but never solve these issues.
***See: “First in the Path of the Firemen”
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