Hate Speech In Germany

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    Nazism was snuffed out right? I guess not. Say hello to the return of Nazi Germany. :eusa_shhh:
     
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    Unbelievable, hipeter. First France and now Germany? WTF is going on in Europe?
     
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    Muslims make nazis look like girl scouts.
     
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    Fascists vs Islamists vs Socialists (aka civil war)
     
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    Federal Bank has already fired him, German President Wulff has to confirm, which he will do.
    With France you probably mean the "Roma" subject, that is indeed a shame as it is state-policy.
    The Sarazzin subject is on a different level, as it is a personal view.
    Like Spiderman's uncle said: With great power comes great responsibility.
    He overstretched, now he is gone.

    Many of his arguments in his books have been disproved in the public in Germany.
    For example in his book he claimed, that 20% of crime in Berlin is done by Muslims.
    Yesterday there was political talk-show on State Television, they read an official letter by Police Chief of Berlin. The letter said, that Muslim crime rate in Berlin is 8.7 % of total.

    Such things you do not do as member of Federal State Bank.
     
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    Thank you, ekrem.
     
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    Berlin's polpulation = 3.442.675 Million.
    Muslims in Berlin = 220.000 (6.3 %) - 300.000 (11.4 %) according to Berlin federal senate.
    Berlin Police says, that Muslim crime rate is 8.7 % of all crime.

    Sarazzin claims 20% in his book. He tries to imply that Muslims in Berlin are more violent then the others.


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    Integrations-Studie - Muslime sind stolze Berliner - aber keine Deutsche - Berlin Aktuell - Berliner Morgenpost - Berlin

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    Data by Berlin Police given in yesterday's political talk-show on German State Television.
     
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    The economy in Germany is recovering.
    There won't be ethnic groups deported like in France, or minarets banned like in Switzerland.
    There is always a connection between economy and resentiments against immigrants.
     
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    Hi there,

    just to add some background:

    Theo Sarrazin (btw: this guy´s last name implies by ethymology, that he is of Sarazen origin, means of muslim origin. Lot´s of french Hugenots were and immigrated to Brandenburg in the 17th century - funny, isn´t it ?) is a board member of the Bundesbank, our version of the Fed. He was before this a high ranking public service official, secretary of finance in Berlin and is member of the Social Democratic Party (= Center Left)

    He has written a book called "Deutschland schafft sich ab" (reads as Germany disposes itself).

    In this book he states several problems of immigration and non-integration of immigrants.
    Also, he argues, that the muslim faith hinders immigrants to integrate themselves. Also, as the Muslims tend to be less educated, but have more children, the more stupid muslims will outnumber the Germans in 100 years. The average birthrate of Germans is 1.4 children, that of immigrants is 2.1. Problem is, that a population does not grow in a linear progression. According to this model, starting in 1890, Germany would now have 250 million citizens. Correctly there are now 81 million, thanks to contraceptives, two wars and lower birthrates.

    Problem with this debate is, that Mr Sarrazin loves to provoke, raises a legitimate subject (yes, immigration causes problems), but messes all up by stating, that there are certain biological factors, which causes immigrants to be less intelligent. Also, there is a jewish Gen, which helps the Jews to be more intzelligent bankers. Hmpf.

    So, what happens is, that this subject is debated quite heated. Rightly so, but in a wrong and non-constructive way.

    But actually this is a mild storm compared to what FOX et al. sometimes blows into the airwaves.

    The White Middle Class in the West fears dramatic changes , so we hear now the reaction.

    regrds
    ze germanguy
     
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