Hatch: "Back then it was standard practice not to pay for things".

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    Republican Senators forced to defend 'back then it was standard practice not to pay for things'
    Remember the 2003 medicare prescription drug benefit? The one which cost a trillion dollars and which was not paid for at all, just added to the deficit?

    Today there are still 24 Republicans in the Senate who supported it, and some of their explanations for how they can be against the current health care overhaul sound strained, to say the least.

    Six years ago, "it was standard practice not to pay for things," said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah. "We were concerned about it, because it certainly added to the deficit, no question." His 2003 vote has been vindicated, Hatch said, because the prescription drug benefit "has done a lot of good."

    It has done a dubious amount of good (mainly to pharmaceutical companies' bottom line) but it's hard to suggest that a bill which clearly does much more good, extending coverage to the uninsured, is less worthy of Sen. Hatch's vote than the medicare prescription bill. And given that the CBO has projected that the current bill does in fact pay for itself and doesn't raise the deficit, how is it a defense to say that six years ago it was standard practice not to pay for things??? I mean, (pardon my French), WTF?!!?!?

    OOOOPS, this belongs in Politics ...
     
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    Explain how the bill "clearly" does much more good. How is raising the cost of insurance for 85% of Americans when many are already having trouble affording it clearly doing more good? How is unconstitutionally forcing the American people to purchase a product from an unscrupulous private entity clearly doing more good?

    Hatch was right to vote against it. This has nothing to do with the previous Medicare bill even though it was wrong for him to support that without it being funded.

    I have been asking myself that same question as we've all seen a budget pass with almost a $2 trillion deficit this year. As far as the current health care bill being deficit neutral, only a fool would believe such a thing. The government never ever stays within budget on anything and the only reason it is deficit "neutral" is because the taxes to fund it begin next year even though the program doesn't kick in for another four years. And for the sake of argument, let's say that it actually does not add to the deficit, which it will. The country is still spending money it doesn't have. It is reckless and irresponsible to be doling out another trillion dollars in Federal spending when we are incapable of paying our current obligations.
     
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    I think Republican/conservative hypocrisy has become such a standard practice that it is almost not worth trying to shame them with it.

    But it's still entertaining.
     
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    Ohh the deflections, denials and projecting is quite entertaining.
    They have the dems beat hands down on weaseling.
     
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    Bah, humbug

    They trade out being hypocritical on a frequent enough basis that one APPEARS to be less weasely for 8 years.....then its the other guy's turn.
     
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    Ohh no argument there. However the right is so much better at weaseling.
     
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    good gawd, Ted Kennedy must be laughing in his grave. Teddy loved Orin, and here we can see why.

    hahahahahahahhahahahaaaaa...
     
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    No doubt...and it's STILL apparent that the standard government practice is "not to pay for things".
     
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    We're going to be getting a new load of Congressmen (Democrat and Republicans) come the next couple of election cycles. Hopefully, all of the dumb-asses that are currently employed as our law makers will be leaving town and giving the new faces a chance at cleaning up their mess. Democrat and Republican Congressmen alike have screwed up this country. All of them have made this shit sandwich we all have to eat. They all need to be fired.
     
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    We all did our part as well.
     

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