Has the Earth Experienced Statistically Significant Warming Since the Late 19th Centu

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The answer to that question apparently is No, although you may need to be a statistician to fully appreciate Doug Keenan’s explanation. You don’t need any expertise in statistics, however, to follow the entertaining story of how the British government has bobbed and weaved in response to the Parliamentary Question, “whether they consider a rise in global temperature of 0.8 degrees Celsius since 1880 to be significant.”

Read more @ Has the Earth Experienced Statistically Significant Warming Since the Late 19th Century? | Power Line
 
One way or the other.......doesnt matter, except to perpetuate this debate on the internet. Its having zero effect on world policymakers. In fact, even the EU is moving away from the green energy thing because they are no longer competitive and its fucking with their economy. Pols in the EU dont want to get branded as the fuck up that supported energy policies that jacked up unemployment and fubar'd growth rates. Thats the way it works in the real world.......so what is significant warming or a bit significant or not significant........nobody cares.:2up: To the climate crusaders, that sucks the big one, but it is what it is.
 
Oh, is that why wind power is growing rapidly within the United states? 13gw last year alone ;) Next to about half of that the year before.

Republican states like Texas, Ok, Iowa are pretty much all within the top 5. Wind should be praised by republican party!
 
Oh, is that why wind power is growing rapidly within the United states? 13gw last year alone ;) Next to about half of that the year before.

Republican states like Texas, Ok, Iowa are pretty much all within the top 5. Wind should be praised by republican party!



Rapidly..........but as compared to what? ( an important ? far left guys hate to consider:funnyface:)


Meanwhile..........


Coal is making a comeback in 2013



Because Europe is getting its economic ass kicked!!! Fantasy energy FTL!!
 
Oh, is that why wind power is growing rapidly within the United states? 13gw last year alone ;) Next to about half of that the year before.

Republican states like Texas, Ok, Iowa are pretty much all within the top 5. Wind should be praised by republican party!



Rapidly..........but as compared to what? ( an important ? far left guys hate to consider:funnyface:)


Meanwhile..........


Coal is making a comeback in 2013



Because Europe is getting its economic ass kicked!!! Fantasy energy FTL!!

Coals dirty as hell. Why not nuclear? :eusa_hand:
 
Oh, is that why wind power is growing rapidly within the United states? 13gw last year alone ;) Next to about half of that the year before.

Republican states like Texas, Ok, Iowa are pretty much all within the top 5. Wind should be praised by republican party!



Rapidly..........but as compared to what? ( an important ? far left guys hate to consider:funnyface:)


Meanwhile..........


Coal is making a comeback in 2013



Because Europe is getting its economic ass kicked!!! Fantasy energy FTL!!

Coals dirty as hell. Why not nuclear? :eusa_hand:



Simple s0n......coal is cheap and not politically volatile.



Another thing the climate crusaders fail to comprehend is that in the real world, costs matter.
 
YES IT HAS. The maximum solar flex was within the mid 1950's...

Don't believe every blog on the net.

Take your own advice jerk... you libtards believe every stupid fuck out there that touts this "man made" global warming shit.

Fucking hypocrites! :eusa_hand:
 
Oh, is that why wind power is growing rapidly within the United states? 13gw last year alone ;) Next to about half of that the year before.

Republican states like Texas, Ok, Iowa are pretty much all within the top 5. Wind should be praised by republican party!



Rapidly..........but as compared to what? ( an important ? far left guys hate to consider:funnyface:)


Meanwhile..........


Coal is making a comeback in 2013



Because Europe is getting its economic ass kicked!!! Fantasy energy FTL!!

Coals dirty as hell. Why not nuclear? :eusa_hand:


Go ask the libtards who dont want it... Nuclear energy would solve alot of problems.

Hell, you dummies wont even let energy producers put the waste at Yucca Mt.

IDIOTS!!!
 
Rapidly..........but as compared to what? ( an important ? far left guys hate to consider:funnyface:)


Meanwhile..........


Coal is making a comeback in 2013



Because Europe is getting its economic ass kicked!!! Fantasy energy FTL!!

Coals dirty as hell. Why not nuclear? :eusa_hand:


Go ask the libtards who dont want it... Nuclear energy would solve alot of problems.

Hell, you dummies wont even let energy producers put the waste at Yucca Mt.

IDIOTS!!!

I'm all for nuclear power and would love to see 50% nuclear within this country. Yes, I support the replacement of coal with nuclear.

We're also working on better ways to get rid of nuclear waste then Yucca MT. I don't understand why anyone would be against such.
 
YES IT HAS. The maximum solar flex was within the mid 1950's...

Don't believe every blog on the net.

Take your own advice jerk... you libtards believe every stupid fuck out there that touts this "man made" global warming shit.

Fucking hypocrites! :eusa_hand:

Better then throwing out 150 years of science(physics) just because our understanding of is becomes more complete. :eek::eek: I feel it is a better idea to stay with the universities and experts, even through their current understanding is incomplete over a fucking blog. lol
 
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Can I see a single fucking data set that supports no warming since 1900? Not even up to 1950 with the solar flex max.

Wow you people don't think.



Data for what purpose?

What does that change?

Me thinks you're the one who is not thinking s0n. Is this about winning an debate on the intanets? Who cares?

You and the other climate crusaders have been crashing the gong for almost a decade now, and nothing to show for it. Nothing. So who cares about this stupid-ass data debate? Its going to change nothing because alternative energy is a joke.......its 19th centruy technology that is not competitive without massive government subsidies.


You should be much more concerned about Fukushima s0n.......thats what we should be discussing on here......not this fraud argument about CO2 levels.

Check this site out........you'll like it I think..........massive amount of stuff on Fukushima.........

cryptogon.com » FUKUSHIMA: AT LEAST THREE OF SEVEN UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS LEAKING RADIOACTIVE WATER
 
Can I see a single fucking data set that supports no warming since 1900? Not even up to 1950 with the solar flex max.

Wow you people don't think.



Data for what purpose?

What does that change?

Me thinks you're the one who is not thinking s0n. Is this about winning an debate on the intanets? Who cares?

You and the other climate crusaders have been crashing the gong for almost a decade now, and nothing to show for it. Nothing. So who cares about this stupid-ass data debate? Its going to change nothing because alternative energy is a joke.......its 19th centruy technology that is not competitive without massive government subsidies.


You should be much more concerned about Fukushima s0n.......thats what we should be discussing on here......not this fraud argument about CO2 levels.

Check this site out........you'll like it I think..........massive amount of stuff on Fukushima.........

cryptogon.com » FUKUSHIMA: AT LEAST THREE OF SEVEN UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS LEAKING RADIOACTIVE WATER

Data to find the truth of our world. The point of being a Scientist is to seek the truth of how things work...You may not, but some people do in fact want that.

I'm not one of those 4-6c alarmist...Hell, I'm someone that believes 1 to 1.5c of warming by 2100 as I understand that something was dearly missing. Now we understand the system far more and are likely close to reality. This is how science works...:eusa_hand:

It isn't 19th century tech as new idea's have bettered it to the point where it is economic in some area's.

Fukushima got hit with a 9+ earthquake and a tsunami for Christ sakes. It's 30+ years old.
 
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Forbes has an interesting article on what I'll call "Sun Spot Cycle Global Climate Change". Cooling, such as the Little Ice Age, is caused by lack of sun spot activity. We are now on such a cooling trend...quite the opposite of the nonsense being spewed by AGW mongers.

...The Little Ice Age, following the historically warm temperatures of the Medieval Warm Period, which lasted from about AD 950 to 1250, has been attributed to natural cycles in solar activity, particularly sunspots. A period of sharply lower sunspot activity known as the Wolf Minimum began in 1280 and persisted for 70 years until 1350. That was followed by a period of even lower sunspot activity that lasted 90 years from 1460 to 1550 known as the Sporer Minimum. During the period 1645 to 1715, the low point of the Little Ice Age, the number of sunspots declined to zero for the entire time. This is known as the Maunder Minimum, named after English astronomer Walter Maunder. That was followed by the Dalton Minimum from 1790 to 1830, another period of well below normal sunspot activity.

The increase in global temperatures since the late 19th century just reflects the end of the Little Ice Age. The global temperature trends since then have followed not rising CO2 trends but the ocean temperature cycles of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) and the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO). Every 20 to 30 years, the much colder water near the bottom of the oceans cycles up to the top, where it has a slight cooling effect on global temperatures until the sun warms that water. That warmed water then contributes to slightly warmer global temperatures, until the next churning cycle.

Those ocean temperature cycles, and the continued recovery from the Little Ice Age, are primarily why global temperatures rose from 1915 until 1945, when CO2 emissions were much lower than in recent years. The change to a cold ocean temperature cycle, primarily the PDO, is the main reason that global temperatures declined from 1945 until the late 1970s, despite the soaring CO2 emissions during that time from the postwar industrialization spreading across the globe.

The 20 to 30 year ocean temperature cycles turned back to warm from the late 1970s until the late 1990s, which is the primary reason that global temperatures warmed during this period. But that warming ended 15 years ago, and global temperatures have stopped increasing since then, if not actually cooled, even though global CO2 emissions have soared over this period. As The Economist magazine reported in March, “The world added roughly 100 billion tonnes of carbon to the atmosphere between 2000 and 2010. That is about a quarter of all the CO2 put there by humanity since 1750.” Yet, still no warming during that time. That is because the CO2 greenhouse effect is weak and marginal compared to natural causes of global temperature changes.

At first the current stall out of global warming was due to the ocean cycles turning back to cold. But something much more ominous has developed over this period. Sunspots run in 11 year short term cycles, with longer cyclical trends of 90 and even 200 years. The number of sunspots declined substantially in the last 11 year cycle, after flattening out over the previous 20 years. But in the current cycle, sunspot activity has collapsed. NASA’s Science News report for January 8, 2013 states,

“Indeed, the sun could be on the threshold of a mini-Maunder event right now. Ongoing Solar Cycle 24 [the current short term 11 year cycle] is the weakest in more than 50 years. Moreover, there is (controversial) evidence of a long-term weakening trend in the magnetic field strength of sunspots. Matt Penn and William Livingston of the National Solar Observatory predict that by the time Solar Cycle 25 arrives, magnetic fields on the sun will be so weak that few if any sunspots will be formed. Independent lines of research involving helioseismology and surface polar fields tend to support their conclusion.”

That is even more significant because NASA’s climate science has been controlled for years by global warming hysteric James Hansen, who recently announced his retirement.

But this same concern is increasingly being echoed worldwide. The Voice of Russia reported on April 22, 2013,

“Global warming which has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, may give way to global cooling. According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is waning, so the average yearly temperature will begin to decline as well. Scientists from Britain and the US chime in saying that forecasts for global cooling are far from groundless.”

That report quoted Yuri Nagovitsyn of the Pulkovo Observatory saying, “Evidently, solar activity is on the decrease. The 11-year cycle doesn’t bring about considerable climate change – only 1-2%. The impact of the 200-year cycle is greater – up to 50%. In this respect, we could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years.” In other words, another Little Ice Age....


To The Horror Of Global Warming Alarmists, Global Cooling Is Here - Forbes
 
climate change is nothing more than evolution. evolution of the planet. science tells us the drastic changes that have taken place over the life of the earth. the world today is nothing like it was years ago. the climate changed even more drastically before man and co2 emissions existed. the left has no problem arguing evolution when it comes to man, but they forget all about it when it comes to changes in the planet.
 

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