Handing Iraq back to Al Qaeda: How do our Iraq War vets feel about it?

[Little-Acorn]

How do our Iraq War veterans, who fought and bled to free Iraq from Saddam Hussein and his terrorist training camps, feel about Obama pulling our troops out and handing the country back to Al Qaeda?

According to antiwar.com, 4,489 of them are "not available for comment", having given their lives to free the country in the first place.

Recent headlines:

BAGHDAD FALLING: Iraq crisis: Baghdad prepares for the worst as Islamist militants vow to capture the capital - Middle East - World - The Independent
MOSUL OVERRUN BY AL QAEDA: Mosul is burning, and Iraq could still get worse. Here are 5 reasons why - The Washington Post
AL QAEDA ALLIES SIEZE TIKRIT: TIME - Breaking News, Analysis, Politics, Blogs, News Photos, Video, Tech Reviews
TERRORISTS "FULL-BLOWN ARMY": Iraq?s Terrorists Are Becoming a Full-Blown Army - The Daily Beast

Election have consequences. Especially when you elect liberal fanatics to be the Commander in Chief, and give them majorities in Congress... as we did after defeating most terrorists in Iraq.

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Congress's Iraq Vets Helplessly Watch Their Gains Lost - NationalJournal.com

Congress's Iraq Vets Helplessly Watch Their Gains Lost

By Clara Ritger
June 11, 2014

Americans are tired of war. For the 17 members of Congress who served in Iraq, that means watching helplessly as the cities they fought for fall once more to extremists.

Three Republican congressmen who served in Iraq—Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, Doug Collins of Georgia, and Brad Wenstrup of Ohio—said it feels like the progress they made has been thrown away.

"Going out across the desert I remember the feelings that you have, wondering if you're going to make it out alive," Perry said. "Right now I wonder what that was all about. What was the point of all of that?"

"We have an enemy today that senses weakness, knows how to find it, and then goes after it," Wenstrup said. "I came home from Iraq feeling that we liberated 25 million people."

"I think at this point the administration made a choice to cut and run," Collins said. "When Fallujah fell again, we knew this foreign policy had consequences."

 

[Siete]

How do our Iraq War veterans, who fought and bled to free Iraq from Saddam Hussein and his terrorist training camps, feel about Obama pulling our troops out and handing the country back to Al Qaeda?

According to antiwar.com, 4,489 of them are "not available for comment", having given their lives to free the country in the first place.

Recent headlines:

BAGHDAD FALLING: Iraq crisis: Baghdad prepares for the worst as Islamist militants vow to capture the capital - Middle East - World - The Independent
MOSUL OVERRUN BY AL QAEDA: Mosul is burning, and Iraq could still get worse. Here are 5 reasons why - The Washington Post
AL QAEDA ALLIES SIEZE TIKRIT: TIME - Breaking News, Analysis, Politics, Blogs, News Photos, Video, Tech Reviews
TERRORISTS "FULL-BLOWN ARMY": Iraq?s Terrorists Are Becoming a Full-Blown Army - The Daily Beast

Election have consequences. Especially when you elect liberal fanatics to be the Commander in Chief, and give them majorities in Congress... as we did after defeating most terrorists in Iraq.

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Congress's Iraq Vets Helplessly Watch Their Gains Lost - NationalJournal.com

Congress's Iraq Vets Helplessly Watch Their Gains Lost

By Clara Ritger
June 11, 2014

Americans are tired of war. For the 17 members of Congress who served in Iraq, that means watching helplessly as the cities they fought for fall once more to extremists.

Three Republican congressmen who served in Iraq—Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, Doug Collins of Georgia, and Brad Wenstrup of Ohio—said it feels like the progress they made has been thrown away.

"Going out across the desert I remember the feelings that you have, wondering if you're going to make it out alive," Perry said. "Right now I wonder what that was all about. What was the point of all of that?"

"We have an enemy today that senses weakness, knows how to find it, and then goes after it," Wenstrup said. "I came home from Iraq feeling that we liberated 25 million people."

"I think at this point the administration made a choice to cut and run," Collins said. "When Fallujah fell again, we knew this foreign policy had consequences.

20 threads a day on this topic, get ready.

 

[Sallow]

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

Oh, that's right.

Those were Boy Scouts that Saddam was training in those camps.

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/hearings/hearing3/witness_yaphe.htm

Do you leftist fanatics EVER pause for breath between lies?

 

[Plasmaball]

So this is the talking point being pushed....

 

[Little-Acorn]

So this is the talking point being pushed....

And carefully not being answered by liberals, as usual.

 

[rightwinger]

Our vets were abused by being sent there in the first place on Bush's boondoggle

 

[Camp]

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

Oh, that's right.

Those were Boy Scouts that Saddam was training in those camps.

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

Do you leftist fanatics EVER pause for breath between lies?

Read your own link dumb ass. It explains in detail how Saddam considered al Qaeda and Bin Laden as enemies and kept them out of Iraq. Al Qaeda came to Iraq after Bush filled the country with targets riding around in unarmored vehicles and no body armor. Remember the "bake sales for our troops" conducted by moms and dads to by their kids body armor? Al Qaeda came to Iraq to train and suck America out of it's blood and treasure the way they said they would after 9/11.

 

[Little-Acorn]

War Veterans Watch In Horror As Iraqi Towns They Fought For Fall To ISIS Terrorists « CBS San Francisco

War Veterans Watch In Horror As Iraqi Towns They Fought For Fall To ISIS Terrorists

by Brandon Mercer
June 12, 2014 8:07 PM

SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX) — “It’s like a punch in the gut,” is how one Bay Area Iraq War veteran describes news today that Mosul, Tikrit, Ninevah, and so many other Iraqi cities fell to the terrorist army known as ISIS.

At a veterans’ event in Fort Mason, Army human resources specialist Starlyn Lara reacted to the insurgents’ success.

“You know it’s really hard, because part of what you learn in the military is mission success, mission accomplishment and never to accept failure,” the two-time Iraq War veteran said. “It can make you feel a lot of loss was in vain.”

 

[kiwiman127]

And of course it was Booosh who signed off on the departure timeline and conditions of the departure.
When you get talking points you usually get partisan half truths. This talking point has way too many holes in it thanks to historical facts.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

Oh, that's right.

Those were Boy Scouts that Saddam was training in those camps.

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

Do you leftist fanatics EVER pause for breath between lies?

Its funny that you think you just rebutted his claim when you didnt. Sarcasm isnt a rebuttal

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They must feel betrayed that Obama switched sides on the GWOT

 

[Peach]

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

Correct, Saddam was a secular monster.

 

[Peach]

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

So this is the talking point being pushed....

And carefully not being answered by liberals, as usual.

Reading the report is helpful:

Saddam assessed Usama bin Ladin and al-Qaida as a threat rather than a potential partner to be exploited to attack the United States. Bin Ladin wanted to attack Iraq after it occupied Kuwait in 1990 rather than have the Saudi government depend on foreign military forces.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

We never should have invaded Iraq to being with under Bush/Cheney.

As much as I'd like to see Obama hang for treason on multiple accounts, he's doing the right thing here: Nothing.

Who gives a flying fuck.

Rand Paul 2016.

 

[Little-Acorn]

War Veterans Watch In Horror As Iraqi Towns They Fought For Fall To ISIS Terrorists « CBS San Francisco

War Veterans Watch In Horror As Iraqi Towns They Fought For Fall To ISIS Terrorists

by Brandon Mercer
June 12, 2014 8:07 PM

SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX) — “It’s like a punch in the gut,” is how one Bay Area Iraq War veteran describes news today that Mosul, Tikrit, Ninevah, and so many other Iraqi cities fell to the terrorist army known as ISIS.

At a veterans’ event in Fort Mason, Army human resources specialist Starlyn Lara reacted to the insurgents’ success.

“You know it’s really hard, because part of what you learn in the military is mission success, mission accomplishment and never to accept failure,” the two-time Iraq War veteran said. “It can make you feel a lot of loss was in vain.”

 

[asterism]

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

Bullshit

After the fall of the Taliban, al-Zarqawi slips out through Iran to northern Iraq, linking up with local terrorism groups. He achieves global notoriety when Colin Powell names him in his February 2003 U.N. speech laying out the U.S.'s case for invading Iraq.

TIMELINE: Zarqawi's road to perdition. - TIME

 

[asterism]

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

Oh, that's right.

Those were Boy Scouts that Saddam was training in those camps.

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

Do you leftist fanatics EVER pause for breath between lies?

Read your own link dumb ass. It explains in detail how Saddam considered al Qaeda and Bin Laden as enemies and kept them out of Iraq. Al Qaeda came to Iraq after Bush filled the country with targets riding around in unarmored vehicles and no body armor. Remember the "bake sales for our troops" conducted by moms and dads to by their kids body armor? Al Qaeda came to Iraq to train and suck America out of it's blood and treasure the way they said they would after 9/11.

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

Correct, Saddam was a secular monster.

Handing back?

Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until after the US invasion.

So this is the talking point being pushed....

And carefully not being answered by liberals, as usual.

Reading the report is helpful:

Saddam assessed Usama bin Ladin and al-Qaida as a threat rather than a potential partner to be exploited to attack the United States. Bin Ladin wanted to attack Iraq after it occupied Kuwait in 1990 rather than have the Saudi government depend on foreign military forces.

And then things changed, of course:

After the fall of the Taliban, al-Zarqawi slips out through Iran to northern Iraq, linking up with local terrorism groups. He achieves global notoriety when Colin Powell names him in his February 2003 U.N. speech laying out the U.S.'s case for invading Iraq.

TIMELINE: Zarqawi's road to perdition. - TIME

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hand it back? Al qaeda never had Iraq. Bush's invasion created the longterm instability that is leading to the current events.

 

[Little-Acorn]

War Veterans Watch In Horror As Iraqi Towns They Fought For Fall To ISIS Terrorists « CBS San Francisco

War Veterans Watch In Horror As Iraqi Towns They Fought For Fall To ISIS Terrorists

by Brandon Mercer
June 12, 2014 8:07 PM

SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX) — “It’s like a punch in the gut,” is how one Bay Area Iraq War veteran describes news today that Mosul, Tikrit, Ninevah, and so many other Iraqi cities fell to the terrorist army known as ISIS.

At a veterans’ event in Fort Mason, Army human resources specialist Starlyn Lara reacted to the insurgents’ success.

“You know it’s really hard, because part of what you learn in the military is mission success, mission accomplishment and never to accept failure,” the two-time Iraq War veteran said. “It can make you feel a lot of loss was in vain.”

Does anyone know ANY Iraq veteran who thinks giving the country back to the terrorists, is a GOOD idea?