Gun control in Hong Kong fails to save this family from gun murder...

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    No...we have 11,004 gun murders.....almost all taking place in democrat voting districts.....and 80% of the victims are criminals, not law abiding citizens.

    At the same time, Americans use their legal guns 2.4 million times a year to save lives and to stop violent criminals....can you tell which number is bigger?


    The rest are suicides which do not reflect on legal gun ownership....

    Fact Check, Gun Control and Suicide



    There is no relation between suicide rate and gun ownership rates around the world. According to the 2016 World Health Statistics report, (2) suicide rates in the four countries cited as having restrictive gun control laws have suicide rates that are comparable to that in the U. S.: Australia, 11.6, Canada, 11.4, France, 15.8, UK, 7.0, and USA 13.7 suicides/100,000. By comparison, Japan has among the highest suicide rates in the world, 23.1/100,000, but gun ownership is extremely rare, 0.6 guns/100 people.

    Suicide is a mental health issue. If guns are not available other means are used. Poisoning, in fact, is the most common method of suicide for U. S. females according to the Washington Post (34 % of suicides), and suffocation the second most common method for males (27%).

    Secondly, gun ownership rates in France and Canada are not low, as is implied in the Post article. The rate of gun ownership in the U. S. is indeed high at 88.8 guns/100 residents, but gun ownership rates are also among the world’s highest in the other countries cited. Gun ownership rates in these countries are are as follows: Australia, 15, Canada, 30.8, France, 31.2, and UK 6.2 per 100 residents. (3,4) Gun ownership rates in Saudia Arabia are comparable to that in Canada and France, with 37.8 guns per 100 Saudi residents, yet the lowest suicide rate in the world is in Saudia Arabia (0.3 suicides per 100,000).

    Third, recent statistics in the state of Florida show that nearly one third of the guns used in suicides are obtained illegally, putting these firearm deaths beyond control through gun laws.(5)

    Fourth, the primary factors affecting suicide rates are personal stresses, cultural, economic, religious factors and demographics. According to the WHO statistics, the highest rates of suicide in the world are in the Republic of Korea, with 36.8 suicides per 100,000, but India, Japan, Russia, and Hungary all have rates above 20 per 100,000; roughly twice as high as the U.S. and the four countries that are the basis for the Post’s calculation that gun control would reduce U.S. suicide rates by 20 to 38 percent. Lebanon, Oman, and Iraq all have suicide rates below 1.1 per 100,000 people--less than 1/10 the suicide rate in the U. S., and Afghanistan, Algeria, Jamaica, Haiti, and Egypt have low suicide rates that are below 4 per 100,000 in contrast to 13.7 suicides/100,000 in the U. S.
     
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    Mexican drug cartels have begun to build gun factories right across the border.....and those guns will be fully automatic, not AR-15s...
     
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    Yes, I know your silly one track rhetoric. I still say you should number your rants. It would save you a lot of typing.
     
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    "common sense" is subjective. What do you think that means?
     
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    You missed the point

    Just because you can’t stop every murder doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to stop any. Countries with strict gun control have significantly lower murder rates than second amendment countries. One fifth of our murder rate
     
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    You forgot the tale about how Germany was afraid to attack Switzerland
     
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    It means you are grabbing at straws.
     
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    I asked a simple question, dog.
    What do you think common sense regulation is?
     
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    Feel free to move your sorry ass to Hong Kong
     
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    Gun laws do not reduce murder rates
     
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