Group Plans to Help Healthy Woman Die

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    A healthy woman's desire to kill herself when her terminally ill husband dies -- a plan she intends to carry out with the help of a Swiss assisted suicide group -- has ignited a new right-to-die controversy.
    Ludwig Minelli, the founder of the Swiss assisted suicide group, Dignitas, talked about the case in a recent interview with The Times of London. Assisted suicide is legal in Switzerland, and the group said it has helped more than 100 Britons die.

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    While I am not opposed to terminally ill people having the right to die and to have assisted suicide available to them, this does not sit well with me. On top of the fact that I'm against anyone in good health taking their own life, I believe that allowing this to happen will only make a stronger argument against assisted suicide for the terminally ill.

    I lost my wife to cancer, and I understand the grief involved. There was a period of time when I really didn't care if I lived or not, but I certainly never would have taken my own life. Now, seven years later, I fully appreciate life again. People dealing with grief can make very irrational decisions, and this woman's decision is irrational.
     
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    but films make heroines of women who elect to stay with thier husbands and die with them...it not been that long ago that sati's were outlawed in india. Sati means devoted wife, i think. this is hardly new but really an honored tradition...i agree with you ..that grief can cause crazy ideas but she still has ever right to kill herself...
     
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    I'm consistently pro-death. If people want to off themselves, let'em.
     
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    If she is healthy, why does she need assistance in killing herself? Sorry that just struck me as odd.
     
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    I agree with Auditor. Life shouldn't be something that we casually throw away. Although, I can understand her desire to be with her husband when he dies, why does she think her own life is not worth living?

    I believe one can take his/her own life, but if we allow these kinds of assisted suicides in "healthy" people, it erodes further the meaning and importance of life. I would hate to see our society go down this road.
     
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    Yeah, I agree with you on this one Auditor007. I do think it should be legal for the terminally ill to have the right to choose to die and legislation for that to happen isn't that bureaucratic - THAT bureaucratic. But for someone to be allowed to die like this woman?

    I used to date this HOT VA nurse. Man, talk about HOT: Playboy model early-1960s-Marilyn Monroe era - you know, real nice curves. Anyway, back to the subject, she was a staunch Republican. I'm talking patriotic to a fault (if you can even believe that). She worked in the mentally ill, terminally ill, and (um, I don't know what to call it) the ward that takes care of people who have become more than quadrapalegic - as in maybe couldn't even speak - but whose families couldn't or wouldn't bare the burden of caring for them. She told me some horrific stories about these more-than-quadrapalegic patients:

    There was one, a woman who, while in the Air Force, was out jogging one morning. She was hit by a car because of glare in the driver's eyes. Nobody's fault, just tragic. The woman was in a coma for about a year and when she came out of it she was unable to function on her own. Her vital functions still operated but she was unable to care for herself or even speak in a way that is coherent to others. Her family took her home but after a couple of years they could or would no longer handle the burden of this young woman's care. Her divorced mother remarried a man who sort of took the lead of the family's affairs and moved the woman to the VA Hospital. Over the next five years the family's visits came less and less frequently until they stopped coming to visit altogether.

    Some days, when my girlfriend came home from work, she wept. After having worked with this poor young woman for years she eventually came to understand her way of speaking. The handicapped young women would ask my girlfriend everyday to please kill her. This poor young woman had developed terrible bed sores. She could think as well as she had before the accident; its just that her body didn't work anymore nor would it ever again (unless scientists are allowed to research stem cells but the technology and research is still years away). She never interracted with anyone she cared about and lay forgotten in a basement room in an unfrequented part of the Denver VA Hospital. Because of this my Christian, conservative, Republican girlfriend wanted legal euthanasia.

    And I agree with that.

    However, for those not terminally ill or similarly incapacited, to allow them to commit suicide is just an escape from the grief, which may be unbearable for a time, but, I think you'll agree, over time grows more and more bearable.

    If my girlfriend were to die I would be inconsolable. I depend on her for many things. But she isn't the only person who depends on me. Were I to needlessly die as well, that would leave my family and friends bereft of someone important to them. Why compound the suffering?
     
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    I call bull on the article being just hype to attack legitimate assisted suicide.
     
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    I agree that the word "healthy" betrays this whole argument. If you're healthy, you don't need help. Fall on a sword, jump, go to Iran and insult Allah. The possibilities are endless. I always thought suicide laws were nuts. You can't punish me when I'm dead. And if you fail at suicide, well, that's just pathetic.
     
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    No only that, but if you fail the state winds up usually footing the bill for the resulting hospital bills, only for them to try it again when they get out.
     
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    being born is not voluntary

    therefore everybody has the right to take their life back and kill themselves

    if you don't believe in another person's right to their own life then you better not believe in your right to yours !

    if you would deny another person the right to suicide be prepared to get killed ...

    it's none of your business whether a person is making a mistake or not. i may think your entire life is a mistake - that doesn't give me the right to kill you.

    everybody's life is his own - so simple, even you should be able to understand !

    your arrogance can only be matched by that of neo-cons and suicide bombers.
     
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