Greenland Glacial melt due to 1000 year old SOOT... Not AGW

[Billy_Bob]

Another alarmist pillar collapses – Greenland melting due to old soot feedback loops and albedo change – not AGW

Greenland Glacial melt due to 1000 year old SOOT... Not AGW

Well this ought to make the alarmists go nuts... their long touted lie about Greenland ice melt is not due to the planet warming at all. Researchers have found soot from planetary dry cycles, range fires and unfiltered coal use in the 1300's and beyond are the real reason..

From the EARTH INSTITUTE AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY and the “we told you so time and again at WUWT” department comes this study which not only explains the “insta-melt” in the Summer of 2012, but the ongoing melting that has been incorrectly blamed on CO2, when instead it’s all about older soot embedded in snow coming around again to enhance melting combined with weather pattern changes..

I just hate it when science shows the alarmist crowd deceivers and anti-science liars.

 

[The Great Goose]

Yaaaaaaay!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Greenland's Ice Is Getting Darker, Increasing Risk of Melting - The Earth Institute - Columbia University

The research paper ^^^^^


What i find amusing is the melt can be stopped if the planet cooled a bit and we had major snows... With the change in the ocean to cold now around Greenland that will happen soon.

 

[tinydancer]

And from the non science world

Who the hell named it Greenland to begin with?

 

[mamooth]

So why did the 1000-year-old soot just suddenly start melting ice just now?

Oh wait, it's just WUWT and Billy lying about a study again. Busted for fraud again, Billy is. That is, same old same old.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Another alarmist pillar collapses – Greenland melting due to old soot feedback loops and albedo change – not AGW

Greenland Glacial melt due to 1000 year old SOOT... Not AGW

Well this ought to make the alarmists go nuts... their long touted lie about Greenland ice melt is not due to the planet warming at all. Researchers have found soot from planetary dry cycles, range fires and unfiltered coal use in the 1300's and beyond are the real reason..

From the EARTH INSTITUTE AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY and the “we told you so time and again at WUWT” department comes this study which not only explains the “insta-melt” in the Summer of 2012, but the ongoing melting that has been incorrectly blamed on CO2, when instead it’s all about older soot embedded in snow coming around again to enhance melting combined with weather pattern changes..

I just hate it when science shows the alarmist crowd deceivers and anti-science liars.

 

[Old Rocks]

http://www.the-cryosphere-discuss.net/9/5595/2015/tcd-9-5595-2015.pdf

Abstract The surface energy balance and meltwater production of the Greenland ice sheet (GrIS) are modulated by snow and ice albedo through the amount of absorbed solar radiation. Here we show, using spaceborne multispectral data collected during the 5 three decades from 1981 to 2012, that summertime surface albedo over the GrIS decreased at a statistically significant (99 %) rate of 0.02 decade−1 between 1996 and 2012. The negative trend is confined to the regions of the GrIS that undergo melting in summer with the dry-snow zone showing no trend. The period 1981–1996 showed no statistically significant trend. The analysis of the outputs of a regional 10 climate model indicates that the drivers of the observed albedo decrease is imputable to a combination of increased near-surface temperatures, which enhanced melt and promoted growth in snow grain size and the expansion of bare ice areas, as well as by trends in light-absorbing impurities on the snow and ice surfaces. Neither aerosol models nor in situ observations indicate increasing trends in impurities in the 15 atmosphere over Greenland, suggesting that their apparent increase in snow and ice might be related to the exposure of a “dark band” of dirty ice and to the consolidation of impurities at the surface with melt. Albedo projections through the end of the century under different warming scenarios consistently point to continued darkening, with albedo anomalies in 2100 averaged over the whole ice sheet lower than in 2000 20 by 0.08, driven solely by a warming climate. Future darkening is likely underestimated because of known underestimates in projected melting and because the model albedo scheme does not currently include light-absorbing impurities and the effect of biological activity, which themselves have a positive feedback, leading to increased melting, grain growth and darkening.

Now once again we see WUWT making up lies concerning what a real scientific paper actually says. Above is the abstract from that paper, and you can see the whole paper at the link. Not that Silly Billy or any of the other fools will actually do that.

 

[Old Rocks]

And from the non science world

Who the hell named it Greenland to begin with?

Eric the Red. In a successful effort to get others to help colonize Greenland. Their efforts, plus the cooling, at farming as they had in Europe doomed their colony. A very good study is found the Jared Diamond's "Collapse".

 

[Crick]

Another alarmist pillar collapses – Greenland melting due to old soot feedback loops and albedo change – not AGW

Greenland Glacial melt due to 1000 year old SOOT... Not AGW

Well this ought to make the alarmists go nuts... their long touted lie about Greenland ice melt is not due to the planet warming at all. Researchers have found soot from planetary dry cycles, range fires and unfiltered coal use in the 1300's and beyond are the real reason..

From the EARTH INSTITUTE AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY and the “we told you so time and again at WUWT” department comes this study which not only explains the “insta-melt” in the Summer of 2012, but the ongoing melting that has been incorrectly blamed on CO2, when instead it’s all about older soot embedded in snow coming around again to enhance melting combined with weather pattern changes..

I just hate it when science shows the alarmist crowd deceivers and anti-science liars.

God are you stupid. And, apparently, not fond of reading actual source material. This is what happens when you rely on idiot anti-intellectuals like WUWT for your science info. You'd think you'd have learned better while getting that degree in atmospheric physics. Did it not occur to you that something had to have revealed that 1,000 year old soot?

 

[Vandalshandle]

Actually, the ice is melting on Greenland because there is a forest fire burning under the ice. It has nothing to do with global warming!

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. Makes every bit as much sense as the denialists claims.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Why do I eve try to educate the idiots here..?

You wont read the dam paper.. you post up alarmist crap and then cant defend your bull shit..

SO tell me morons, where does soot come from prior to the industrial age, or dust, or ....

 

[Billy_Bob]

And from the non science world

Who the hell named it Greenland to begin with?

Talk to the local vikings.. When they visited the island it was lush and green, full of vegetation. Thus its name, Greenland. But then cycles changed and the LIA occurred... Physically burying whole villages, mines and fields which are being uncovered today as the ice once again cyclically melts..

But dont try and tell the alarmists.. They think all this melting is caused by man..Them finding out that this is a cyclical, natural variation, event would crush them.

 

[Old Rocks]

Silly Billy, you posted an article from WUWT that made claims about an article in the peer reviewed journal, 'Cryosphere'. I posted the abstract to the original article, and the link gives you the whole article. And it did not say what WUWT was saying it said. You are the one that did not read the damned paper.

As for your second question, only a moron would ask that. Of course, then, we would expect you to ask that question.

 

[Old Rocks]

And from the non science world

Who the hell named it Greenland to begin with?

Talk to the local vikings.. when they visited the island it was lush and green full of vegetation. Thus its name. But then cycles changed and the LIA occurred... physically burring whole villages, mines and fields which are being uncovered today as the ice once again cyclically melts..

But dont try and tell the alarmists.. They think all this melting is caused by man...

LOL. Well, Silly Billy, read the history of Greenland someday. LOL

 

[Billy_Bob]

And from the non science world

Who the hell named it Greenland to begin with?

Talk to the local vikings.. when they visited the island it was lush and green full of vegetation. Thus its name. But then cycles changed and the LIA occurred... physically burring whole villages, mines and fields which are being uncovered today as the ice once again cyclically melts..

But dont try and tell the alarmists.. They think all this melting is caused by man...

LOL. Well, Silly Billy, read the history of Greenland someday. LOL

And then old crock or is old fraud doesn't know shit about shinola.. you really need to learn history.

 

[Vandalshandle]

The ice is melting on Greenland because aliens have been hired by Al Gore to point a giant magnifying glass at it from space.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The melt was an observation, the WARMERS assumed away all the other variables and never bothered conducting an experiment controlling for CO2.

That's science

 

[Vandalshandle]

I suspect that the ice on Greenland is melting because god is pissed about the Supreme Court legalizing gay marriage, and is taking baby steps toward the next big flood.

 

[RollingThunder]

And from the non science world. Who the hell named it Greenland to begin with?

Talk to the local vikings.. When they visited the island it was lush and green, full of vegetation. Thus its name, Greenland. But then cycles changed and the LIA occurred... Physically burying whole villages, mines and fields which are being uncovered today as the ice once again cyclically melts..

But dont try and tell the alarmists.. They think all this melting is caused by man..Them finding out that this is a cyclical, natural variation, event would crush them.

Are you retarded? Seriously! Are you just fucking retarded?

Greenland Vikings
In 960, Thorvald Asvaldsson of Jaederen in Norway killed a man. He was forced to leave the country so he moved to northern Iceland. He had a ten year old son named Eric, later to be called Eric Röde, or Eric the Red. Eric too had a violent streak and in 982 he killed two men. Eric the Red was banished from Iceland for three years so he sailed west to find a land that Icelanders had discovered years before but knew little about. Eric searched the coast of this land and found the most hospitable area, a deep fiord on the southwestern coast. Warmer Atlantic currents met the island there and conditions were not much different than those in Iceland (trees and grasses.) He called this new land "Greenland" because he "believed more people would go thither if the country had a beautiful name," according to one of the Icelandic chronicles (Hermann, 1954) although Greenland, as a whole, could not be considered "green." Additionally, the land was not very good for farming.

Greenland ice sheet
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Greenland Ice Sheet is a vast body of ice covering 1,710,000 square kilometres (660,235 sq mi), roughly 80% of the surface of Greenland. ...The ice in the current ice sheet is as old as 110,000 years.[3] It is generally thought that the Greenland Ice Sheet formed in the late Pliocene or early Pleistocene by coalescence of ice caps and glaciers. It did not develop at all until the late Pliocene, but apparently developed very rapidly with the first continental glaciation.