Great news from Iraq - NY Times Puts It on Page A-19

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    You know the US military is kicking ass in Iraq when the NY Times puts the story on page A-19, and does not put al Qaeda in the headline

    Tell me agin how there is no liberal bias at the NY Times


    Militant Group Is Out of Baghdad, U.S. Says


    By DAMIEN CAVE
    Published: November 8, 2007
    BAGHDAD, Nov. 7 — American forces have routed Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, the Iraqi militant network, from every neighborhood of Baghdad, a top American general said today, allowing American troops involved in the “surge” to depart as planned.

    Maj. Gen. Joseph F. Fil Jr., commander of United States forces in Baghdad, also said that American troops had yet to clear some 13 percent of the city, including Sadr City and several other areas controlled by Shiite militias. But, he said, “there’s just no question” that violence had declined since a spike in June.

    “Murder victims are down 80 percent from where they were at the peak,” and attacks involving improvised bombs are down 70 percent, he said.

    General Fil attributed the decline to improvements in the Iraqi security forces, a cease-fire ordered by the Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr, the disruption of financing for insurgents, and, most significant, Iraqis’ rejection of “the rule of the gun.”

    His comments, in a broad interview over egg rolls and lo mein in a Green Zone conference room, were the latest in a series of upbeat assessments he and other commanders have offered in recent months. But his descriptions revealed a city still in transition: tormented by its past, struggling to find a better future.

    “The Iraqi people have just decided that they’ve had it up to here with violence,” he said, while noting that their demands for electricity, water and jobs have intensified.

    Hundreds, if not thousands, of displaced families are returning to their homes, but a majority of them are still afraid to go back to neighborhoods now segregated by sect. “Clearly,” General Fil said, “it will take some time for Baghdad to restore itself to what it was.”

    He and other military commanders have maintained for months that the conditions for national reconciliation have been met. They argue that Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, the homegrown Sunni extremist group that American intelligence agencies say is foreign-led, has been weakened. They cite in particular the rise of the American-supported citizen volunteers — 67,000 nationwide, according to military figures.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/08/world/middleeast/08iraq.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin
     
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    and I STILL bet that you can't find a single neocon willing to walk down the streets of non-green zone Baghdad after dark...


    Do you care to make any statements that you won't mind standing behind a year from now?

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    They will whenyou do the same south central LA

    The point is, the surge has had great results, and the liberal media is ignoring the good news

    Along with the defeatest Dems in DC
     
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    we've invaded south central LA and claim that it's a giant sweeping victory?

    wow.. news to me!



    no, dude.. it will be a victory when it's not some momentary talking point and will hold water a year from now rather than as long as it takes the fox news team to strap on their bullet proof vests.
     
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    So you are saying there is no progres being made?

    I know the left was gleeful when the troops were dying daily, and ebeytime a car bombing was shown on the news - but the terrorists are losing Shogun

    The surge is working and Gen Petraeus's plan is winning the fight
     
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    if by "progress" you mean headway in making iraq what india was to the british then no. not at all. This is why I asked you if you had anything you wanted to say that you could stand behind a year from now. You do realize that, about every 3 months, you wave this "we are winning" flag while it's been years and your kind STILL won't walk the streets outside of the green zone without a flak jacket and military escort..



    in fact, I'll bet you that iraq will LARGELY be in a similar place, violence wise, DURING our 08 elections as it is right now. In fact, I predict that not only will it be relativley the same YOU will be busy blaming violence incured during our election cycle as some weak ass accusation blaming violence on support for democrats in some fashion. You can't instill an ideology. Sure, sure.. you can kill a bunch of muslims but all you do is create legends. Unless you plan on killling them to the degree that we took out OUR natives I bet you'll be eating your words by the first week of full on 08 campaigning.

    Im willing to bet. In fact, I hope you bookmark this thread and call me on it if Im wrong because I know damn well you wont bring it up when you are wrong.

    the left isn't happy about ANYONE dying. You are acting stupid even suggesting such a thing.
     
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    I addressed this issue here.
     

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